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7 hours ago, raptorjays said:

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.thestar.com/amp/news/gta/2020/01/21/go-ttc-discount-fares-to-end-as-province-pulls-the-plug-on-funding.html
 

Doug Ford assaulting those commuters..

By the way, does that mean GO transit and the UP express cannot be utilized with TTC fare if there’s a disruption on the TTC? 

The co-fare being eliminated and GO-Protocol are not related. 

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29 minutes ago, Doppelkupplung said:

Splendid. Back to spending $19.60 a day for commuting to school. Idiot. 

But Doug Ford's keeping more coins in your pocket!  Just remember that.

Anyways, going by my recent experience complaining about costs going up, expect to hear from the entitled baby boomers about how they don't use it means you shouldn't have it.  That by the way would be the people who benefitted from cheap tuition, cheap books, cheap energy, cheap food, cheap housing, plentiful jobs, good jobs, working careers centred over the longest run of post-WWII prosperity, good pensions, all that stuff that they took advantage of that they've then taken away from subsequent generations.

So remember when you tap your card at full price as your student debt piles up because unlike them, you're not getting a student grant you're getting a loan to pay back with interest, your digging a little deeper and flinging it on that pile of debt helps pay for the valuable service of subsidizing their heavily discounted seniors' tickets.

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2 hours ago, 63 Ossington said:

The co-fare being eliminated and GO-Protocol are not related. 

I notice that the TTC was recommending taking the GO train at Kipling to skip the Bloor-Danforth mess.

I presume that you tap your Presto and it deducts TTC fare, not GO fare, automatically?

As a Presto user, how can you be sure that it's deducting the right fare? Especially beforehand, because after it's done its deductions, it will be a pain to try to get them corrected.

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20 minutes ago, Ed T. said:

I notice that the TTC was recommending taking the GO train at Kipling to skip the Bloor-Danforth mess.

I presume that you tap your Presto and it deducts TTC fare, not GO fare, automatically?

As a Presto user, how can you be sure that it's deducting the right fare? Especially beforehand, because after it's done its deductions, it will be a pain to try to get them corrected.

So the fact that the budget went over what they foretasted means that more people used it! Doesn't this mean that this is a good thing? We encouraged people to take transit and it was successful! WOW. Now lets get rid of it. Great Idea! 

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It's interesting to note that Metrolinx is only terminating it's $1.50 co-fare agreement with TTC - and not the ones it has with any other transit agency ... which are often larger than $1.50 a ride!

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7 hours ago, Ed T. said:

I notice that the TTC was recommending taking the GO train at Kipling to skip the Bloor-Danforth mess.

I presume that you tap your Presto and it deducts TTC fare, not GO fare, automatically?

As a Presto user, how can you be sure that it's deducting the right fare? Especially beforehand, because after it's done its deductions, it will be a pain to try to get them corrected.

I have been wondering this myself; the only way I could think of is not tapping in, and the fare inspector will note that you have tapped in before with the TTC on their handheld and that is the proof of payment? I could very well be totally off but I can't think of any way to tap onto GO under GO protocol. Even with my convoluted guess, what if your trip would originate at Kipling? Tap in at Kipling TTC and exit to the GO station?

Otherwise as you said it'd be pay GO fare upfront and then try to plead your case to customer service for a refund...  Before Presto, there proof of payment was simply a valid paper transfer. There's no official statement addressing this anywhere.

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7 hours ago, Ed T. said:

I presume that you tap your Presto and it deducts TTC fare, not GO fare, automatically?

No. 

The assumption is that everyone transferring to GO at those stations, either has gotten there on TTC, or has a pass loaded. Then, if they are inspected, the inspectors know that a valid TTC fare on the card, is okay.

I suppose those that live near the stations and pay individual fares and instead walk to the GO platform, are out of luck - but I guess they can just tap into the TTC station, and then leave straight away, if they are that desperate to save the 60 cents difference between a TTC fare and a GO fare.

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41 minutes ago, nfitz said:

No. 

The assumption is that everyone transferring to GO at those stations, either has gotten there on TTC, or has a pass loaded. Then, if they are inspected, the inspectors know that a valid TTC fare on the card, is okay.

I suppose those that live near the stations and pay individual fares and instead walk to the GO platform, are out of luck - but I guess they can just tap into the TTC station, and then leave straight away, if they are that desperate to save the 60 cents difference between a TTC fare and a GO fare.

So do they cover up or turn off the GO Presto readers, or have someone there telling you what's going on, or what? Because I expect that most users will just tap the GO readers.

Then again, where are you allowed to ride? Suppose you were going to take the subway from Kipling to Main Street. You get on the GO train and ride to Danforth?

The concept is simple. The execution has many ifs and gotchas.

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46 minutes ago, Someguy3071 said:

Please don't come back!!!

I'd be quite happy to see him come back, as he was willing to hold feet to the fire that was missing both before and after.

But it won't happen.

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Considering he had to work with him and his late brother for a few years, I think he would've been fine. His ability to call out the bullshit and be frank about it was one of his most admirable qualities; something many lack today. 

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2 hours ago, Archer said:

That post is 100% spot on.

 

38 minutes ago, Bus_Medic said:

Seconded.

I agree completely 

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On 1/22/2020 at 11:00 AM, Ed T. said:

I notice that the TTC was recommending taking the GO train at Kipling to skip the Bloor-Danforth mess.

I presume that you tap your Presto and it deducts TTC fare, not GO fare, automatically?

As a Presto user, how can you be sure that it's deducting the right fare? Especially beforehand, because after it's done its deductions, it will be a pain to try to get them corrected.

Are you referring to when there is an emergency closure on the TTC subway and they say you can use part of the GO trains?  If thats what your referring too, then if you read FULLY the alerts/messages you MUST tap your presto on the TTC then you can board a GO train and you DON'T tap on the GO......    if a fare inspector checks fares he/she will see you tapped on at a legit TTC station and your fine. 

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4 minutes ago, BusDude said:

Are you referring to when there is an emergency closure on the TTC subway and they say you can use part of the GO trains?  If thats what your referring too, then if you read FULLY the alerts/messages you MUST tap your presto on the TTC then you can board a GO train and you DON'T tap on the GO......    if a fare inspector checks fares he/she will see you tapped on at a legit TTC station and your fine. 

If the subway is not running and the station is closed how do you tap on the TTC?

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3 minutes ago, Shaun said:

If the subway is not running and the station is closed how do you tap on the TTC?

When the subway is closed do to an emergency the stations in the affected area aren't locked down. The stations are open for people to use the buses at that station so you can tap your card.  For example if the subway is closed from main stn to broadview stn, and you need to get downtown, if your on the subway system then you can get off at main and just walk to Main Go and walk on a train.  If you haven't been on the subway/bus and go to main stn and the subway is closed due to a delay, then you MUST TAP YOUR PRESTO CARD AT MAIN STN, exit, walk to Main GO stn and walk on. 

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4 hours ago, BusDude said:

Are you referring to when there is an emergency closure on the TTC subway and they say you can use part of the GO trains?  If thats what your referring too, then if you read FULLY the alerts/messages you MUST tap your presto on the TTC then you can board a GO train and you DON'T tap on the GO......    if a fare inspector checks fares he/she will see you tapped on at a legit TTC station and your fine. 

Okay, hopefully there will be a notification somewhere we can read it. (Not everyone has a smartphone with updates.)

Now I wonder how far I could go on GO. Say I get to Kipling, and the subway is down. My destination is Main St. I get on the GO train at Kipling. Could I transfer at Union for a train bound for Danforth?

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6 hours ago, Ed T. said:

Okay, hopefully there will be a notification somewhere we can read it. (Not everyone has a smartphone with updates.)

Now I wonder how far I could go on GO. Say I get to Kipling, and the subway is down. My destination is Main St. I get on the GO train at Kipling. Could I transfer at Union for a train bound for Danforth?

Only during AM peak time you can catch a GO Train at Kipling to Union where you can transfer to an eastbound GO Train. You will have to tap off the Milton train and tap on the eastbound train. You can buy a ticket at the fare machine to cover your trip if you don't have a Presto card.

Come this fall and depending when GO start running buses to the new Kipling Regional Hub, you most likely can take a GO bus to Union all day, 7 day a week to catch a eastbound train. Only if there is 7 day all day bus service to Union.

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46 minutes ago, drum118 said:

Come this fall and depending when GO start running buses to the new Kipling Regional Hub, you most likely can take a GO bus to Union all day, 7 day a week to catch a eastbound train. Only if there is 7 day all day bus service to Union.

I'd be really surprised if GO starts running Union to Kipling buses. Have they talked about this? I'd have thought that some services that end now at Square One, would be extended to the subway at Kipling.

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