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5 hours ago, Allandale25 said:

Staff presentation to Brampton Council on the 2020 budget.

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Come to think of it BT does bus refurbishments at the 6 yr lifespan right? Can't seem to remember now.

Also that züm Chinguacousy expansion is gonna be the talk to the town forsure, I'm a lot of people that would always be saying "züm need to come to Chinguacousy" and now their wish my finally come true lol. Now I'm just starting to wonder how far north they are going to run it up Chinguacousy before they direct it to mt. Pleasant, my assumption is possibly up to sandalwood at least (bc Bovaird is cutting it short imo) but only time will tell

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Written deputation submitted to the Metrolinx board meeting from Brampton's CAO includes a map of future Zum routes that mostly aligns with the routes in the "Advancing Transit Priorities" map.
http://www.metrolinx.com/en/docs/pdf/board_agenda/20200220/Letter-from-City-of-Brampton-dated-Feb-19-2020-re-FRTN.pdf

Here's a rough comparison (feedback welcomed) between the last slide from the City of Brampton's presentation in the above-noted letter, and the Brampton portion of the map from the Advancing Transit Priorities presentation.

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On 1/30/2020 at 3:44 PM, NewFlyerFan said:

I figure it’s been out long enough to display, this is the new presto device being installed on all BT buses in the coming months, so far I’ve only driven 1155 with it and it works pretty well with no major issues 

im not sure if this is the final design for the operators controls, but I really hope they re design this 

@Jan Boic you posted in DRT about theirs, more than likely it’s the same device to be installed GTA wide 

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At this point anything is better than whatever TTC currently has.

On 1/23/2020 at 11:46 PM, BramptonTransitFan84 said:

For those that do not know, 2020 is going to be another year of Xcelsior's for the zum fleet as NFI won the tender for the zum buses as confirmed by a press release from New Flyer that they sent out on Dec. 12, 2019 

NFI Press release: https://www.newflyer.com/2019/12/brampton-extends-sustainable-brt-with-low-emission-high-capacity-buses-from-new-flyer/
 

2075 and 2078 coming to you. Seen at Flying J at Headingley, just west of Winnipeg perimeter.

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I'm sure you are all aware but Brampton Transit has implemented a new system to help aid with social distancing due to the COVID-19 pandemic. Such things as:

- Limiting buses to half capacity on all routes

- Reducing service throughout the week to weekend service

- Runing the züm XDE60's on high capacity routes such as on the 7 Kennedy with the full route being züm XDE60's during rush hour and the route being half XDE60 and half conventional buses outside of rush. The 4 Chinguacousy (all branches), 15 Bramalea (all branches) being fully run by züm XDE60's at all times as well as the 18 Dixie however I have not tracked any buses on the 18 since they implemented this move in response to COVID-19

- No fares required to board the bus until further notice

- Rear door boarding only on all buses. An exception are those in need of a lower entry from the kneeling system, those who need the wheelchair ramp and possibly strollers (though strollers were not mentioned on their site)

Recently I went for a walk and happened to see the züm XDE60's in action on the 4/4a in person. However I didn't happen to see any barriers or tape by the poles by the middle exit door. Now this could've been just a one off bus (unit 1479) or they actually aren't putting anything on the artics. If someone (preferably an driver, GSP or mechanic. Don't go out if you don't have to) could confirm for me what they are using to block off the front section that would be greatly appreciated!

EDIT: They are using caution tape to block off specified areas and the 7 is all XDE60 unless resources are needed elsewhere

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On 3/25/2020 at 3:23 PM, BramptonTransitFan84 said:

- No fares required to board the bus until further notice

All routes free? (Edit: Brampton website only says no fare is required.)

I only know of Thunder Bay waiving all transit fares up till now.

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19 hours ago, Buurin said:

All routes free? (Edit: Brampton website only says no fare is required.)

I only know of Thunder Bay waiving all transit fares up till now.

Durham Region Transit has been temporarily fare free because of this. There are quite a few agencies doing this

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On 3/27/2020 at 2:08 PM, Buurin said:

All routes free? (Edit: Brampton website only says no fare is required.)

I only know of Thunder Bay waiving all transit fares up till now.

Burlington, Hamilton, Barrie, Brantford and St Catherines are also free 

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On 3/27/2020 at 2:08 PM, Buurin said:

All routes free? (Edit: Brampton website only says no fare is required.)

I only know of Thunder Bay waiving all transit fares up till now.

Yes this is in effect for the entire system as we do not have presto readers or cash machines by the rear of the bus making it impossible to pay a fare while practicing social distancing from the operator and other passengers.

Even though it says "no fares are required" its essentially free service anyway because of what I just stated about the presto reader and farebox

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By the way if a wiki editor with access to the BT wiki could change the status to 0204, 0208, 0210, 0214, 2015, 0217, 0220, 0221 & 0301 to retired. As those units have been retired since late 2019 and removed from the property. 0218 and 0216 are the only active 02's left (0218 hasn't left sandalwood in a few months but hasn't been decommissioned yet) and 0216 has been doing fine up until march 13th (i'm not sure why it hasn't left since then)

Also if anyone happens to edit the BT page feel free to use on of my photos as a cover pic for the 1975-1976 thumbnail as i have pics of both buses on my Flickr page

1975: https://flickr.com/photos/143316823@N06/48735444012/in/photolist-2hfyX5L-2hfzTA5 

1976: https://flickr.com/photos/143316823@N06/49548302568/in/photolist-2iuq17L

(just be sure to provide credit in the comments lol)

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Drove by Clark on Sunday and saw 0425 and 1119 parked in the dead lot. 1119 has it's engine removed which 0425 I am not sure. My guess is that 0425 could be one of the planned 04's to be retired as an operator from Clark informed me of the few units that have rust starting to build on the underbody. As for 1119, maybe a possible engine faliure but the fact that the radiator door and driver side tailight housing have been parted from it makes me think of retirement.

Anyone else happen to know whats going on with these two units?

 

EDIT: 0425 seems to be still active, it was out on the 18 earlier today (June 4th 2 hours earlier from 12:24PM)

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1119 was involved in a couple accidents over the years ( minor rear ends ) and the bus was consistently unreliable with break downs and engine performance.. my suspicion is engine rebuild due to its age but I haven’t been informed of a official retirement 

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On 5/25/2020 at 12:28 AM, ttc.transit said:

Spotted Züm 2077. Not plated yet and not delivered to Brampton Transit yet. 

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2075 and one other (2076?) are in service.

 

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On 6/3/2020 at 5:10 PM, BramptonTransitFan84 said:

Drove by Clark on Sunday and saw 0425 and 1119 parked in the dead lot. 1119 has it's engine removed which 0425 I am not sure. My guess is that 0425 could be one of the planned 04's to be retired as an operator from Clark informed me of the few units that have rust starting to build on the underbody. As for 1119, maybe a possible engine faliure but the fact that the radiator door and driver side tailight housing have been parted from it makes me think of retirement.

Anyone else happen to know whats going on with these two units?

 

EDIT: 0425 seems to be still active, it was out on the 18 earlier today (June 4th 2 hours earlier from 12:24PM)

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Isn't the engine under warranty? Why not just send it to Wajax and make them replace the engine with a new one?

Unless it's a new flyer issue, rather than a Cummins issue.

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49 minutes ago, Shaun said:

Isn't the engine under warranty? Why not just send it to Wajax and make them replace the engine with a new one?

Unless it's a new flyer issue, rather than a Cummins issue.

How long do you think engine warranties are?

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I am wondering if any 02's D40LF still active in service?  WIKI said some of them still active but seems they are never on the road

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5 hours ago, Bus_Medic said:

How long do you think engine warranties are?

Exactly, Brampton’s fleet numbering is a dead giveaway, 1119 is a 2011 Xcelsior. Likely way past the warranty 

 

5 hours ago, Cimon8000 said:

I am wondering if any 02's D40LF still active in service?  WIKI said some of them still active but seems they are never on the road

The only ones that were active recently were 216 and maybe 221 ( it’s been awhile since I’ve seen 221 in the garage ) 216 was seen a week ago and is either in for repairs, storage or retired.. anyone’s guess and there isn’t a need for older buses to be out right now either 

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On 6/20/2020 at 3:55 AM, ZümmyZüm said:

Exactly, Brampton’s fleet numbering is a dead giveaway, 1119 is a 2011 Xcelsior. Likely way past the warranty 

 

The only ones that were active recently were 216 and maybe 221 ( it’s been awhile since I’ve seen 221 in the garage ) 216 was seen a week ago and is either in for repairs, storage or retired.. anyone’s guess and there isn’t a need for older buses to be out right now either 

Theres also 0218 which seems to be in use as a test bus (last photos I saw of it had the new presto installed)

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I find it amusing that some people don't understand what warranty is intended for. It's clearly not for using it too much and broke after a decade.

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