NoUse4AName Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 3 hours ago, NewFlyerFan said: Hate to be the one to tell you but I’ve driven 1875 numerous times the last 3 weeks, builders plate states it is a XDE60, check my previous posts and for further evidence, the transmission is not like the diesels, these are the same as all other Zum orders, (F,N,R) unlike the diesel novas which have the diesel Allison selector, and just listen to the bus as it pulls off #Fakenews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cityflyer Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 Instead of arguing back and forth, go and ride one yourself and find out. They will sound different if they are indeed XD60 instead of XDE60. You can even track them on Transsee so you know exactly what route and when it will arrive. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyerFan Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 On 7/21/2018 at 9:53 PM, NewFlyerFan said: I’m just going to quote my previous post from July 21 showing the builders plate from what I believe was unit 1880 sitting in the garage. Im not to sure where this rumour came up of the new Zum buses going straight diesel but I myself heard this as well, this is why im posting this for people to see that infect they have come in as XDE60s and not the XD60 people had thought and drivers had hoped for. Ill attach one more image I had taken while on layover so you can spot 1875 from a distance away. White fleet number on rear ( 1875 is the only one like this ) and additional signals at top of rear window Happy hunting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoUse4AName Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 40 minutes ago, NewFlyerFan said: I’m just going to quote my previous post from July 21 showing the builders plate from what I believe was unit 1880 sitting in the garage. Im not to sure where this rumour came up of the new Zum buses going straight diesel but I myself heard this as well, this is why im posting this for people to see that infect they have come in as XDE60s and not the XD60 people had thought and drivers had hoped for. Ill attach one more image I had taken while on layover so you can spot 1875 from a distance away. White fleet number on rear ( 1875 is the only one like this ) and additional signals at top of rear window Happy hunting #photoshop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Power Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 Was 1280 Retired after it hit MiWay 0627 On November 27th. 0627 was Retired and Scrapped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoUse4AName Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 7 hours ago, NewFlyerFan said: I’m just going to quote my previous post from July 21 showing the builders plate from what I believe was unit 1880 sitting in the garage. Im not to sure where this rumour came up of the new Zum buses going straight diesel but I myself heard this as well, this is why im posting this for people to see that infect they have come in as XDE60s and not the XD60 people had thought and drivers had hoped for. Ill attach one more image I had taken while on layover so you can spot 1875 from a distance away. White fleet number on rear ( 1875 is the only one like this ) and additional signals at top of rear window Happy hunting #photoshop I guess forum admins and some people have no sense of humour on here lol .. #Fakewarnings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STO_1601 Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 19 minutes ago, NovaBus76 said: #photoshop I guess forum admins and some people have no sense of humour on here lol .. #Fakewarnings I don't want to argue about this. But you are putting this thread at risk of being derailed. @NewFlyerFan already proved that he wasn't posting "FAKE" spottings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoUse4AName Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, STO_1601 said: I don't want to argue about this. But you are putting this thread at risk of being derailed. @NewFlyerFan already proved that he wasn't posting "FAKE" spottings. Ok I'll stop geesh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 There was mention about diesel artics for Züm but it obviously did not happen. It was mentioned before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommike Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 do the 2018 zum bus has the stop/go hybrid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BramptonTransitFan84 Posted September 30, 2018 Report Share Posted September 30, 2018 On 8/23/2018 at 4:28 AM, tommike said: do the 2018 zum bus has the stop/go hybrid? Nope, this was not specified in the order. Plus i've never heard any stop/start system activate while riding them various times on the 511 also on a side note sorry for spreading all that hype about them being diesel artics, looks like I didn't do enough homework before barking about! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyerFan Posted October 1, 2018 Report Share Posted October 1, 2018 Some Zum buses made it out onto regular runs today 1052 on the 7 1070 and 1160 on the 18 and a unknown unit on the 23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyerFan Posted October 12, 2018 Report Share Posted October 12, 2018 D40LFs 207,211 and 213 are now retired 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TransitfanJW Posted October 13, 2018 Report Share Posted October 13, 2018 Is 0219 still active? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyerFan Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 Proterra catalyst “E2” visited Brampton transit this morning at sandalwood, I’m guessing it’s making its rounds to agencies before heading to the ttc? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 Just now, NewFlyerFan said: Proterra catalyst “E2” visited Brampton transit this morning at sandalwood, I’m guessing it’s making its rounds to agencies before heading to the ttc? It is a demo just doing a few runs before CUTA. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BramptonTransitFan84 Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 For anyone who does not know, the old livery still lives on at Brampton Transit. Seen here is 0309 operating on the 32/33 interline this past Tuesday, it as received some minor work to its paint job at Sandalwood Garage but nothing more and its also the only bus that still sports this livery since the other old livery units were retired. I cannot comment on the interior as I have not gotten the chance to ride it since the work was done. Also regarding retired 2002 & 2003 D40LF's I have a list of some that I noticed when I found that they were being kept at the back of the parking lot of a fireman training course facility. Buses; 0311, 0212, 0201, 0203, 0209, 0317, 0316, 0219, 0207 are at the training facility. 0211, 0213 & 0315 were at Sandawood at the back where they keep the snow equipment and one other unit was at Clark, however I wasn't able to confirm the number since I was on the bus when I passed by there. This is as of October 26th as since then I haven't checked to see what have moved and where. Everything else is running and I am guessing that BT might be planning to retire them going into 2019 late January to February, considering the shortage of buses but at the same time some of the problems some of these units carry with them. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyerFan Posted December 11, 2018 Report Share Posted December 11, 2018 Does anyone here possibly have information on the contract between new flyer industries and Brampton transit regarding Zum buses? I’ve been looking on NFI website for contracts whether it’s a year by year basis or a tender for X amount of years for our articulated buses to no avail. With NovaBus continuously winning the bid for our conventional fleet it makes me wonder why we haven’t gone 100% nova with our Zum express network going forward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BramptonTransitFan84 Posted December 21, 2018 Report Share Posted December 21, 2018 On 12/11/2018 at 2:06 PM, NewFlyerFan said: Does anyone here possibly have information on the contract between new flyer industries and Brampton transit regarding Zum buses? I’ve been looking on NFI website for contracts whether it’s a year by year basis or a tender for X amount of years for our articulated buses to no avail. With NovaBus continuously winning the bid for our conventional fleet it makes me wonder why we haven’t gone 100% nova with our Zum express network going forward While I cant comment on the contract, regarding why. I personally think the livery is a big factor, considering how well the livery was built around the Xcelsior design. Especially on the front, how the livery, white zum logo and fleet number placements heavily compliments the outlines of the actual body panels. On a Nova since the front is a lot smaller that black area under the windshield would need to be heavily modified or scrapped all together, along with the placement of the fleet number and logo not being as visible and overally everything would look very crushed together, if they didnt dump the black under the windshield. Another factor could be the reliability of the Xcelsior for zum has heavily proven itself since buying them in 2010. But again that really only caters to fleet variety anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2044 Posted December 22, 2018 Report Share Posted December 22, 2018 On 12/11/2018 at 2:06 PM, NewFlyerFan said: Does anyone here possibly have information on the contract between new flyer industries and Brampton transit regarding Zum buses? I’ve been looking on NFI website for contracts whether it’s a year by year basis or a tender for X amount of years for our articulated buses to no avail. With NovaBus continuously winning the bid for our conventional fleet it makes me wonder why we haven’t gone 100% nova with our Zum express network going forward The contract for the Zum buses is multi-year. If I recall correctly, it was awarded to New Flyer in 2008 or 2009 and Brampton negotiated an extenssion in 2011. This may be the last year for the contract, though. 1 hour ago, BramptonTransitFan84 said: While I cant comment on the contract, regarding why. I personally think the livery is a big factor, considering how well the livery was built around the Xcelsior design. Especially on the front, how the livery, white zum logo and fleet number placements heavily compliments the outlines of the actual body panels. On a Nova since the front is a lot smaller that black area under the windshield would need to be heavily modified or scrapped all together, along with the placement of the fleet number and logo not being as visible and overally everything would look very crushed together, if they didnt dump the black under the windshield. Another factor could be the reliability of the Xcelsior for zum has heavily proven itself since buying them in 2010. But again that really only caters to fleet variety anyway. Just taking a quick look, you could adapt the Zum livery to the LFS without much effort. Also can you remove the image in your signature. It's way too big. Thanks. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyerFan Posted December 22, 2018 Report Share Posted December 22, 2018 Awesome, thanks for the replies @ADB and @BramptonTransitFan84. If this is indeed the last year with the contract with new flyer I have a feeling Nova will be putting In a strong bid to dominate the market in Brampton. As for the xcelsior artic itself, it’s a great bus in theory but once the winter comes they become less and less reliable with the bus constantly locking itself from starting up or the heat crapping out. Another big issue from a drivers stand point is the seat, for some reason Zum buses use USSC while everything else is recaro ( including 2018 novas ). Hopefully this will be changed come the next tender, I’ve ridden the ttc attics on the 36 a couple of times and they handle much better then the XDE60.. personal opinion of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiExpress Posted December 22, 2018 Report Share Posted December 22, 2018 On 12/11/2018 at 2:06 PM, NewFlyerFan said: Does anyone here possibly have information on the contract between new flyer industries and Brampton transit regarding Zum buses? I’ve been looking on NFI website for contracts whether it’s a year by year basis or a tender for X amount of years for our articulated buses to no avail. With NovaBus continuously winning the bid for our conventional fleet it makes me wonder why we haven’t gone 100% nova with our Zum express network going forward 11 hours ago, ADB said: The contract for the Zum buses is multi-year. If I recall correctly, it was awarded to New Flyer in 2008 or 2009 and Brampton negotiated an extenssion in 2011. This may be the last year for the contract, though. The original RFP for 40' and 60' Zum buses was awarded in late 2008 as a 3 year contract expiring at the end of 2011. At the time New Flyer's bid for a 60' bus was 961K, while Nova's was 980K. When the first order for artics was placed in 2011 New Flyer's price for a 60' Zum bus was reduced further to 927K due to the strong dollar at the time. The original 3 year contract awarded in 2008 was extended for 5 years (to the end of 2016) and everything up to 1775-1785 was purchased under this contract. Note that the order for 1775-1785 would have been placed in 2016. http://www.brampton.ca/en/City-Hall/meetings-agendas/Committee of Council 2010/20110907cw_J1.pdf When the previous contract expired a new RFP was issued in March 2017 for 14 60' Zum buses, with options for additional buses. New Flyer had a lower bid ($16,007,688) than Nova Bus ($16,695,209). 1875-1885 were purchased under this contract and the 3 60' Zum buses for the 505 extension to Viscount LINK will come off this contract as well. So yeah, the reason the Zum fleet has been all New Flyer up until now is that contracts for conventional and Zum buses are tendered separately, and both times a RFP for Zum buses was issued New Flyer submitted a lower bid than Nova while meeting the requirements of the RFP. Speaking of conventional buses, there was a RFP for a new 3 year contract for conventional buses that closed in August but it has still not been awarded. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BramptonTransitFan84 Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 On 12/21/2018 at 8:30 PM, 2044 said: The contract for the Zum buses is multi-year. If I recall correctly, it was awarded to New Flyer in 2008 or 2009 and Brampton negotiated an extenssion in 2011. This may be the last year for the contract, though. Just taking a quick look, you could adapt the Zum livery to the LFS without much effort. Also can you remove the image in your signature. It's way too big. Thanks. ah sorry about that, I'll have to see if I can my signature to display in a smaller size Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyerFan Posted January 18, 2019 Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 0602 was involved in a collision at airport and Lacoste yesterday morning, damage to the bus was very minimal cosmetic wise, shouldn’t affect its future in service 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BramptonTransitFan84 Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 Question. Does anyone know of any sites where I could view tenders for buses that the city of Brampton may put out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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