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Réseau de transport de la Capitale

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21 hours ago, tommike said:

any update on the van hools?

 

Yes, some units have arrived at the RTC garage and are undergoing road test and drivers training, 1801 is still for now the only unit in revenue service

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2 hours ago, eclair14 said:

Someone reported that some Vanhool 19xx units were seen today in revenue service

I was in Quebec for two days and was looking to see some Vanhool. I was looking actively today but didn't see one. Are they on line 11?

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1 hour ago, Chris_the_traveller said:

Why is RTC purchasing Van Hools, and how many of them did they order?

They wanted to replace the Gullivers and introduce 30 footers on some lines. The Ecolobus replacement is caducous. There are many stop-and-go lines that monpolize 40-footers where a 30-ft (or cutaway) would suffice ― 32, 34, 52, 61, 72, 82, 85, among others ―; nevertheless, it seems that inner-city lines are targeted (1? 4? 11? 19? 28?).

The Van Hool bid was the lower, but, seriously, I doubt there were that many manufacturers that could provide. The order is of 64 units.

The seating config looks a lot like the Vicinities

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The story of the Vanhool begins with the retirements of the electric Technobus that was running in the old Quebec. RTC needed something to replace those bus has they seems to have horror of 40 footers running in the old city, to be fair they is few roads that welcome huge buses and it's only take a badly park delivery truck, coach or car with a Quebec plate beginning by the letter F - read here rental car. The shorter bus (32 ft) and narrower bus (96 ft) should reduce the number of times service must be diverted out of the old city.

The big problems was the following, the government at the top of the hill want to show they are green, at all cost possible, so the RTC wanted hybrid bus, however, as you know y'all, no such product exist in the north American market (diesel or full electric only), so Vanhool was the only company that bet on that contract, so they were awarded it.  [personal opinion mode begin ] However, since the product did not exist at the time, Vanhool needed a sizable order to make profits and the RTC needed a sizeable order so someone would provide the bus, and considering the mayor seems to have close relations with the company. This is also IMO the reason why the order was bumped up from 32 to 64 units [end personal opinion mode ]

Routes 11 was slated to receive those bus as this is the old Quebec route, route 19 also was in the plan as generally only a few passenger ride that route, that would require maybe 12 to 15 units to service both route. Now with 64 units, buses will be allocated on many low ridership routes BUT this will have a effect on RTC flexibility has those buses will be require to stay during rush hours on low ridership routes, preventing economy by interlining routes, off peak and weekends most local routes can operate with a Vanhool without capacity problem

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Vanhool deployment is underway, buses L1904,07,11,12,17 and 22 were spotted in service last couple of days

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17 hours ago, eclair14 said:

The story of the Vanhool begins with the retirements of the electric Technobus that was running in the old Quebec. RTC needed something to replace those bus has they seems to have horror of 40 footers running in the old city, to be fair they is few roads that welcome huge buses and it's only take a badly park delivery truck, coach or car with a Quebec plate beginning by the letter F - read here rental car. The shorter bus (32 ft) and narrower bus (96 ft) should reduce the number of times service must be diverted out of the old city.

The big problems was the following, the government at the top of the hill want to show they are green, at all cost possible, so the RTC wanted hybrid bus, however, as you know y'all, no such product exist in the north American market (diesel or full electric only), so Vanhool was the only company that bet on that contract, so they were awarded it.  [personal opinion mode begin ] However, since the product did not exist at the time, Vanhool needed a sizable order to make profits and the RTC needed a sizeable order so someone would provide the bus, and considering the mayor seems to have close relations with the company. This is also IMO the reason why the order was bumped up from 32 to 64 units [end personal opinion mode ]

Routes 11 was slated to receive those bus as this is the old Quebec route, route 19 also was in the plan as generally only a few passenger ride that route, that would require maybe 12 to 15 units to service both route. Now with 64 units, buses will be allocated on many low ridership routes BUT this will have a effect on RTC flexibility has those buses will be require to stay during rush hours on low ridership routes, preventing economy by interlining routes, off peak and weekends most local routes can operate with a Vanhool without capacity problem

Thank you for sharing the story!

I really hope to ride it myself next time I go to Quebec.

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2 hours ago, eclair14 said:

Vanhool deployment is underway, buses L1904,07,11,12,17 and 22 were spotted in service last couple of days

Why are they placed in Limited service?

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18 minutes ago, Thomasw said:

Why are they placed in Limited service?

Gradual introduction into service i guess

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2 hours ago, STO_1601 said:

Are all the 00XX all gone now? This source thinks they are

https://www.metrodemontreal.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=18261&start=40

Didn't saw one in 2019 in service ... so yes they are retired


In others news, today the Vanhool was presented to the press. They are 8 bus in service for now, they can be found for now on routes 4, 34, 39, 54, 61, 82 and 86 (can add 64 to that list)

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14 hours ago, Ds9Defiant1701 said:

1911 and 1922 doesn'T have an L anymore

Neither does 1912. 

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Two quick news

- RTC is currently testing the Xcelisor Charge artic , they are so far testing it without passengers.

- RTC will hold an open door event at Metrobus center May 26th from 10am to 4pm, more details to come

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