Board Admin A. Wong Posted December 3, 2015 Author Board Admin Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 868 is a D40LFR with that www.ridestat.ca along the roofline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAX BRT Posted December 4, 2015 Report Share Posted December 4, 2015 The tender has been released for St. Albert's future electric bus fleet. It's a very interesting, and open, tender. They'll consider anything between 30-40', they'll consider rapid charge (130 km/ 5 hr plus on street recharging) or extended battery life (250 km/ 8hr) buses, and they'll consider responses for more than the budgeted $3.2 million. There are some things a potential supplier has to meet to be pre-qualified, such as 12 year battery life guarantee, Altoona testing but they'll accept similar models (so if NovaBus suddenly got an electric bus on the market, because the LFS in general is Altoona tested they would be OK. New Flyer, BYD and I believe Proterra have all been Altoona tested with the actual electric buses). A 114000 BTU axillary heater is speced (read: diesel fuelled heater). The budget seems small. $3.2 million is $800,000 per bus, but the fact that recharging equipment is needed, whether at the garage only, or on street as well is where I think it could go over budget. However, they could consider other options like alternate financing, and that is the reason for the inclusion of the various length buses, to allow for a smaller bus to keep within budget. However, there is a full slate of options that are suggested as open to consideration which would include increasing the budget to the meet the highest rated response, disqualifying over budget responses and awarding the highest in budget response, and there is the option to outright cancel the tender. New Flyer has worked with Manitoba Hydro, and CNG suppliers have been known to provide incentives for CNG bus purchases, and have had alternate funding arrangements for the fuelling stations. I wonder if one of the bus manufactures could work with an electric utility to help fund the charging stations? Should be an interesting 12 months to see what becomes of this. Nice report sir! I know that BYD has been offering a 12 year battery life guarantee. I have not seen where competitors are offering that. Proterra fast-charge buses rely on a battery chemistry that is the most long lasting in terms of cycles but since they charge it and discharge it so often (smaller battery) it is not expected to last more than 8 years, from what I've seen. Perhaps they will offer a 12 year guarantee on their XR extended range bus. I saw a credible report that LA Metro so far is not getting the range they expected from their BYD buses. New Flyer is the only OEM I'm aware of that has cold weather electric buses with a diesel fueled heater active in service. Proterra has buses that operate in the cold in Massachusetts but I don't think they use anything but electric heat. The Proterra fast-charge batteries are more impervious to the cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Board Admin A. Wong Posted December 6, 2015 Author Board Admin Report Share Posted December 6, 2015 BYD now has an electric bus that has a diesel fueled heater demoing for ETS. It is numbered 6011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAX BRT Posted December 6, 2015 Report Share Posted December 6, 2015 BYD now has an electric bus that has a diesel fueled heater demoing for ETS. It is numbered 6011. Ah! Let us know how that goes for ETS Sounds great and was always going to be required given BYD's extra weight and lack of on-route charging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRT Posted December 6, 2015 Report Share Posted December 6, 2015 Not sure if this has been already mentioned. I spotted an old D60 just east of Hwy 2. Near the Lacombe exit. It's on RR279 here's a pic from Google maps. I think it's 803 but not sure. Enjoy! Range Rd 272 https://goo.gl/maps/d7FxL9jr6p62 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awstott Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 We took a RDT fishbowl to visit it (don't think it was in Lacombe back then though) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevep Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 It was just outside Red Deer back then, near Highway 11 west of Highway 2. Numbers on it are "03" so I suspect it was 803 too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theodore Leung Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 Just spotted #855 on Rt. 203 15mins ago I thought it had retired already... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M. Parsons Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 So far we're not sure if/ what has been retired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Look Posted December 31, 2015 Report Share Posted December 31, 2015 At this point I don't believe any retirements have happened yet. Have been continuing to see 853 through 857 in service during the first half of December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Look Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 857 in service this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theodore Leung01 Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 No, I meant "I thought it was retired", coz I didn't see it for a while, n I realized it is still in service when I saw it on that day Sent from my C6903 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captaintrolley Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 Saw a St Albert bus turning SB on 124 Street from EB on 118 Avenue tonight just before 2100hrs. I checked the St. Albert Transit weekday maps and could not find what route this could have been. I didn't see a rte number display on the rear. Looked like there were some people on board though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Look Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 856 spotted in service yesterday, 855 earlier this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAX BRT Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 City of St. Albert Sets Tone for New Era of Canadian Transportation with Order for Canadaās First All-Electric Transit Buses http://finance.yahoo.com/news/city-st-albert-sets-tone-002500075.html Three 35 footers from BYD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAX BRT Posted March 5, 2016 Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 More details on St Alberts purchase of 3 BYD buses. http://www.stalbertgazette.com/article/Electric-buses-hit-road-this-fall-20160305 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Board Admin A. Wong Posted March 12, 2016 Author Board Admin Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 http://www.metro-magazine.com/sustainability/news/711028/st-albert-transit-orders-first-all-electric-buses-in-canada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAX BRT Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 City gets funding to buy four electric buses http://www.stalbertgazette.com/article/City-gets-funding-to-buy-four-electric-buses-20161207 The four electric buses are in addition to four buses that received $2.1 million in funding from the provincial governmentās GreenTRIP program. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAX BRT Posted December 21, 2016 Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 A bottleneck at the factory means that St. Albertās new electric buses wonāt get here until next year, says the head of the cityās transit service. The city bought three electric buses earlier this year with the help of provincial GreenTRIP funding as part of its efforts to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. It now plans to buy another four, as the federal and provincial governments chipped in an additional $3 million earlier this month. Those first three buses were supposed to have arrived earlier this fall. That got pushed back to Dec. 15, and now itās been bumped to January. The problem was that manufacturer BYD Coach & Bus Ltd. only had one painting booth at its factory, said city transit director Kevin Bamber. āThey can produce the buses faster than they can get them through their painting booth.ā Source: http://www.stalbertgazette.com/article/Environment-File-20161221 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M. Parsons Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 The tender is now out for up to 5 electric buses in any combination ofĀ 30, 35, or 40' lengths. Only BYD is pre-qualified with their 35' and 40' buses as a result of the prior tender. That makes me wonder if New Flyer even qualified for the previous tender? I don't believe New Flyer has an option for 200 km/ 8 hr range on a single charge yet.Ā To be pre-qualified to bid, buses must have a 200 km/ 8 hr range, recharge from 0-100% in 3-6 hours, be battery powered, 12 year warranty on batteries... they'll be replaced at no cost to the City if they fail in 12 years, and any 30' buses being submitted must be substantially similar to the vendors standard Ā 35' and 40' buses. I guess that measn that New Flyer wouldn't be able to submit a MiDi as the 30' componentĀ and Xcelsior for the 35' and 40' component. Makes sense... I'm guessing St. Albert doesn't want to be stuck with a separate body/ chassis to support should they go for 30' buses as part of this tender. Very interesting... first time an Canadian agency has tendered a second time for electric buses, and they haven't even received their first ones yet. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRT Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 Wow those buses can charge up faster then my phone! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAX BRT Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 15 hours ago, LRT said: Wow those buses can charge up faster then my phone! Requires a hell of a charger! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRT Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Looks like about a half aĀ dozen or so d40lf StĀ Albert buses sitting at Mitchener Allen auctions in Calgary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M. Parsons Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Those are probably Lethbridge buses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRT Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 Very possible but sure look like StĀ Albert colors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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