TTCNLFBT Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 1270 lacks a rack. EDIT: 1227 as well. Add 7976, it was on 512 on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wil9402 Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 1270 lacks a rack. EDIT: 1227 as well. Add 7976, it was on 512 on Sunday. There are a number of Arrow Rd buses without racks. Arrow Rd seems to take their time replacing damaged racks compared to other divisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vivablue5215 Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 3 years later, 1316 is still rackless. 7900 still also void of a rack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed T. Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 Saw a 7000 Orion V with its front number offset so it's not hidden by the bike rack. Unfortunately I forget which one it was, 7034 maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttc9426 Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 Saw a 7000 Orion V with its front number offset so it's not hidden by the bike rack. Unfortunately I forget which one it was, 7034 maybe? 7110 IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vivablue5215 Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 7110 IIRC. 7126 as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBC 9197 Posted April 27, 2015 Report Share Posted April 27, 2015 The bike racks on the Nova's are being returned to service after being locked-out by the Ministry of Labour last year. The solution to the problem is to only allow one bike on the rack instead of two, and a new set of restrictions on objects attached to bikes that can further obscure the Operator's view. The forward wheel securement will be removed thus making it unusable and the rack will be placed back in service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtrazsteve Posted April 27, 2015 Report Share Posted April 27, 2015 The bike racks on the Nova's are being returned to service after being locked-out by the Ministry of Labour last year. The solution to the problem is to only allow one bike on the rack instead of two, and a new set of restrictions on objects attached to bikes that can further obscure the Operator's view. The forward wheel securement will be removed thus making it unusable and the rack will be placed back in service. In other words, they don't have a real solution. I knew the can't fix it cause the bumper is just too high up. Sounds kinda stupid that they are going to install all these new bike racks on all 105 LFSes and then cripple them to support one bike only. Oh well, the LFSes are quite roomy inside compared to the Orion VIIs. That's cause they have like only 30 seats compared to 36 on the VIIs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheelindealin Posted April 27, 2015 Report Share Posted April 27, 2015 Why can't they just leave it up to "driver's discretion". I assume that all drivers are properly trained and can make a good judgement call whether or not a bike or two will impair their vision and ability to operate the vehicle. The same Nova RTS models are used in GRT and drivers don't seem to have a problem with this there. I'm also assuming that racks on Orion VII will be unaffected and that they will allow 2 bikes on those buses. I do recall the Ministry of Transportation placing some restrictions on those racks too... Oh well. Any solution is better than no solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leylandvictory2 Posted April 27, 2015 Report Share Posted April 27, 2015 I guess the management want to avoid confrontation between the driver and the passenger. Actually I can't see where the end of the bike rake on Orion 7. When I stop, I make sure I see the bumper of the vehicle in front my bus. In case anybody is wondering, the bike rake doesn't affect the clearance when the bus is making a right or a left turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wil9402 Posted April 27, 2015 Report Share Posted April 27, 2015 In other words, they don't have a real solution. I knew the can't fix it cause the bumper is just too high up. Sounds kinda stupid that they are going to install all these new bike racks on all 105 LFSes and then cripple them to support one bike only. How is that not a solution? The problem was the use of the furthest position blocked the operators view, the solution is to prevent the use of that position. If you're so worried about the TTC installing 2 position bike racks on the LFSes that only one position can be used on then get them to change from their current bike rack supplier Sportworks to GO Transit & Miway's supplier BykRak who make a one position rack. Honestly though, how often to you see both racks used at the same time, especially on the routes that the Artics operate on. On Dufferin and Bathurst maybe but the other Artic routes I rarely see even one bike on those buses. I'm also assuming that racks on Orion VII will be unaffected and that they will allow 2 bikes on those buses. I do recall the Ministry of Transportation placing some restrictions on those racks too... The Orion VII ban was resolved rather quickly, it had more to do with large accessories attached to bikes whereas the LFS was the actual bike blocking the operator's view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBC 9197 Posted April 27, 2015 Report Share Posted April 27, 2015 I guess the management want to avoid confrontation between the driver and the passenger. Actually I can't see where the end of the bike rake on Orion 7. When I stop, I make sure I see the bumper of the vehicle in front my bus. In case anybody is wondering, the bike rake doesn't affect the clearance when the bus is making a right or a left turn. I disagree, while making a regular turn the taper of the rack (narrower than the width of the bus) does not affect clearance, however on a turn where you need to go as far forward before hooking the turn the rack does reduce clearance. A great example of this is the right turn from Shepard to Tuscan Gt, made by the 108A and the 107. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtrazsteve Posted April 28, 2015 Report Share Posted April 28, 2015 How is that not a solution? The problem was the use of the furthest position blocked the operators view, the solution is to prevent the use of that position. If you're so worried about the TTC installing 2 position bike racks on the LFSes that only one position can be used on then get them to change from their current bike rack supplier Sportworks to GO Transit & Miway's supplier BykRak who make a one position rack. Honestly though, how often to you see both racks used at the same time, especially on the routes that the Artics operate on. On Dufferin and Bathurst maybe but the other Artic routes I rarely see even one bike on those buses. They do get used sometimes in the Summer on the 53. (Both racks) Remember the 105 LFSes and possible future LFS orders will also have this problem. A significant part of TTC's new fleet will be LFSes. Even on routes like 191, sometimes both racks are filled. The artics have more space for bikes, but the 40ft buses don't. The real solution I have in mind is a specially manufacture bike rack that dips down a bit then extends out to compensate for the raised bumper on the LFSes. Yes, you're right about that fact that only a handful of people actually use the bike racks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leylandvictory2 Posted April 28, 2015 Report Share Posted April 28, 2015 I disagree, while making a regular turn the taper of the rack (narrower than the width of the bus) does not affect clearance, however on a turn where you need to go as far forward before hooking the turn the rack does reduce clearance. A great example of this is the right turn from Shepard to Tuscan Gt, made by the 108A and the 107. right I forgot about the overhang turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBC 9197 Posted April 28, 2015 Report Share Posted April 28, 2015 I'd be content to see them pulled full stop but I realize that isn't in the cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Reid Posted June 16, 2015 Report Share Posted June 16, 2015 1283 is rackless! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordankcw Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 1283 is rackless! It's been rackless for quite some time unless it got it's rack back recently and lost it again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bus_Medic Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 This? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Reid Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 This?image.jpgimage.jpg Yeah 1283 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
902 Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 7232 has a rack now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyerD901 Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 lol, that's a waste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
51 Leslie Posted September 21, 2015 Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 Spotted 1283 on the 85 today and its still rackless Sent from my LGMS323 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7879 Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 1283 finally has a bike rack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtrazsteve Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 1283 finally has a bike rack 1283 had a bike rack back in 2010. Lost it in 2011 and it took 4+ years to get it back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antarctica Posted August 17, 2017 Report Share Posted August 17, 2017 #8457 has the new bike rack (in service on the 165D). The post came from @leylandvictory2. The new racks for the LFS are manufactured by Nevision instead of Sportworks where the existing Orion VIIs and other buses were used. Anyone here can create the list of LFS buses is appreciated. Look out for this rack in the coming weeks or months. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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