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On 3/7/2022 at 4:07 PM, 110B West Pickering said:

Looking at the bus shelter designs, are they supposed to be one-ended (towards the pedestrian crossing) or will they be open at both ends making for an unfortunate wind tunnel?

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As for the back of the shelter, I don't see why they couldn't include a variation that had both.  The stop name with the pulse as an underline of sorts.  There isn't much in terms of signage on the inside of the shelter, so from the bus passenger's perspective aside from the automated announcement system, they won't know which stop they're at.  VIVA, Züm and the Mississauga Transitway all have signage facing the passengers on board so they can tell where they are.  Having the name on the outside only helps the passengers trying to get to the stop.

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9 minutes ago, Gil said:

Looking at the bus shelter designs, are they supposed to be one-ended (towards the pedestrian crossing) or will they be open at both ends making for an unfortunate wind tunnel?

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As for the back of the shelter, I don't see why they couldn't include a variation that had both.  The stop name with the pulse as an underline of sorts.  There isn't much in terms of signage on the inside of the shelter, so from the bus passenger's perspective aside from the automated announcement system, they won't know which stop they're at.  VIVA, Züm and the Mississauga Transitway all have signage facing the passengers on board so they can tell where they are.  Having the name on the outside only helps the passengers trying to get to the stop.

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They could incorporate doors (similar to GO Transit) since these stops are exposed to the elements too...

Besides I bet a whole host of complaints will head towards DRT customer service if these bus stops become "wind tunnels"

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6 minutes ago, Gamer Studios said:

They could incorporate doors (similar to GO Transit) since these stops are exposed to the elements too...

Besides I bet a whole host of complaints will head towards DRT customer service if these bus stops become "wind tunnels"

Are the bus doors also supposed to line up with the openings in the shelter?  They're going to need some exact stopping points and extensive training for the drivers.  But if a place like Curitiba, Brazil can do it...  However, there doesn't appear to be anything to keep the doorways closed when a bus isn't there. 

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9 minutes ago, Gil said:

Are the bus doors also supposed to line up with the openings in the shelter?  They're going to need some exact stopping points and extensive training for the drivers.  But if a place like Curitiba, Brazil can do it...  However, there doesn't appear to be anything to keep the doorways closed when a bus isn't there. 

idk...but my experience is that there's no "set stop point" when the driver pulls to the stop

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22 hours ago, Gamer Studios said:

idk...but my experience is that there's no "set stop point" when the driver pulls to the stop

If they seriously are going with that design, then the door need to line up with the openings.  Unless the openings are slightly larger than the bus door for a bit of wiggle room for the driver.           -28-

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9 hours ago, Gil said:

If they seriously are going with that design, then the door need to line up with the openings.  Unless the openings are slightly larger than the bus door for a bit of wiggle room for the driver.

This was a point I brought up to them at Transit Advisory Committee meeting when this was presented to us in November.

The gaps do not close when the bus is not there, but the gaps are designed to be wide enough to accommodate level boarding + Wiggle room for the different types of buses currently available.

at a later date if bus manufacturers radically change the location of their door placement, DRT and MX will have to work with the manufacturer to create custom placed door.

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13 hours ago, 110B West Pickering said:

This was a point I brought up to them at Transit Advisory Committee meeting when this was presented to us in November.

The gaps do not close when the bus is not there, but the gaps are designed to be wide enough to accommodate level boarding + Wiggle room for the different types of buses currently available.

at a later date if bus manufacturers radically change the location of their door placement, DRT and MX will have to work with the manufacturer to create custom placed door.

I can't imagine that door placement will radically change in the future unless it's some for some crucial component in an upcoming model.  There's probably a window for manufacturers to slightly adjust the door placement based on requests for say different door widths.  MiWay has gone to the trouble to making their paved bus stop pads for regular bus stops the length between the front and rear (or second on an artic) doors for the sake of accessibility.  I lost a freshly replaced tree on my boulevard due to this program - you'd think the two departments would have consulted each other and save the cost and labour!  If door placement is radically changed across all manufacturers then they may need to re-examine their bus stops.  Various agencies will simply screen out any bidders whose products don't conform to their needs, and hence may simply look elsewhere if their current manufacturer decides to go that route. (pun intended)

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Durham Region Transit Service Updates Effective April 4th 2022

Route 302 Brock-Baldwin

- Removal of additional peak trips due to end of semester

Route 901 PULSE Simcoe

- 15 Minute service between Durham College and Gibb extended until 10:30pm

- Late night 901B trips added beyond 18:45

Route 902 King

- 902B Trips extended to Oshawa GO Station, extending 15 minute service to Oshawa GO I think for the first time on a DRT route

Route 917 Bayly Consumer

- Some peak trips removed due to low ridership outside of school season

Route 920

- Weekday midday service on 920B Replaced by full service all day to McCowan RT Station!

 

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On 3/18/2022 at 8:37 AM, 110B West Pickering said:

Durham Region Transit Service Updates Effective April 4th 2022

 

Route 920

- Weekday midday service on 920B Replaced by full service all day to McCowan RT Station!

 

But that will still mean that the last departure to Mc Cowan Rt Station from Durham College North Campus will be at 17:42, so, technically not "all day," no?

Or is there more to this?

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I think DRT also moved 8571 over to Whitby division as it is currently out doing the 917 (Whitby run)

On 3/20/2022 at 10:26 PM, TDE said:

But that will still mean that the last departure to Mc Cowan Rt Station from Durham College North Campus will be at 17:42, so, technically not "all day," no?

Or is there more to this?

It's being extended to Harmony Terminal
 

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7 hours ago, 110B West Pickering said:

A NovaBus LFSE+ is currently on demo with DRT at Raleigh for the next little while,

this comes as DRT is preparing to put an RFP for 8 electric buses to tender.

Have they been driving it around the region?

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10 hours ago, 110B West Pickering said:

A NovaBus LFSE+ is currently on demo with DRT at Raleigh for the next little while,

this comes as DRT is preparing to put an RFP for 8 electric buses to tender.

It’s currently on tour in the GTA until next week. Should be with Durham until tomorrow afternoon. It was in Kingston the other day.

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19 hours ago, ORION said:

It’s currently on tour in the GTA until next week. Should be with Durham until tomorrow afternoon. It was in Kingston the other day.

Must be to get most agencies in GTHA on board with the extended range variant of the LFSe. If I recall, the first major canadian order for this model was Translink/CMBC in Vancouver. The only Ontario based agency that has the LFSe+ on order (as of right now) is Guelph Transit. I guess the rather slow adoption rate of the LFSe+ is likely due to Nova being a bit late to the extended range game...

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On 3/12/2022 at 9:27 PM, Gil said:

I can't imagine that door placement will radically change in the future unless it's some for some crucial component in an upcoming model.  There's probably a window for manufacturers to slightly adjust the door placement based on requests for say different door widths.  MiWay has gone to the trouble to making their paved bus stop pads for regular bus stops the length between the front and rear (or second on an artic) doors for the sake of accessibility.  I lost a freshly replaced tree on my boulevard due to this program - you'd think the two departments would have consulted each other and save the cost and labour!  If door placement is radically changed across all manufacturers then they may need to re-examine their bus stops.  Various agencies will simply screen out any bidders whose products don't conform to their needs, and hence may simply look elsewhere if their current manufacturer decides to go that route. (pun intended)

But if you look at the D60lf vs LFSA the location of the articulation joint is very different. I don't know about the door placements but the doors are fitted in between wheels so there is not much you can do in terms of re-arranging the door positions. 

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On 3/22/2022 at 8:27 PM, Gamer Studios said:

I think DRT also moved 8571 over to Whitby division as it is currently out doing the 917 (Whitby run)

It's being extended to Harmony Terminal
 

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Is there a reason why they cant just extend this route 500M to STC? They can take one of the Greyhound bays. 

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On 5/6/2022 at 5:01 PM, Gamer Studios said:

8471 is out on a 905/302 block

It seems only the 2010's are active (8471-8473). Guess this is the end

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