Durham Region Transit

[7749]

All 07 D40LF's should be retired. 8431's posting hasn't been posted yet but hasn't seen service in a month, just about the same amount of time 8435 has gone without service

[J. Hollingsworth]

It appears all D40LFs will be retired and listed for sale by the time the Hybrids arrive in April.

7120-7122 have been delivered, im not sure about 18 and 19.

DRT Did a great summary of the March 7th service changes, so I won’t repeat it here, the only thing I’d like to note is that while this is the first phase of service increases to add PULSE service on the 915, technically the 915 still won’t be considered a PULSE route internally.

[newflyerinvero]

2 hours ago, 110B West Pickering said:

It appears all D40LFs will be retired and listed for sale by the time the Hybrids arrive in April.

7120-7122 have been delivered, im not sure about 18 and 19.

DRT Did a great summary of the March 7th service changes, so I won’t repeat it here, the only thing I’d like to note is that while this is the first phase of service increases to add PULSE service on the 915, technically the 915 still won’t be considered a PULSE route internally.

Other than the frequencies and Pulse buses, what else would make the 915 an official Pulse route?

[J. Hollingsworth]

1 hour ago, newflyerinvero said:

Other than the frequencies and Pulse buses, what else would make the 915 an official Pulse route?

Likely signage, from Day one the 901 had the PULSE stop markers. But that’s the only other thing I can think of that isn’t frequency related.

in terms of service, it’s possible they may want to achieve 10 minute service during they day on weekdays, just like the base routes of the 900 and the 901.

Just now, 110B West Pickering said:

Likely signage, from Day one the 901 had the PULSE stop markers. But that’s the only other thing I can think of that isn’t frequency related.

in terms of service, it’s possible they may want to achieve 10 minute service during they day on weekdays, just like the base routes of the 900 and the 901.

Maybe a drop in number of stops, I could see them cutting a handful, 
 

I’d recommend the following to bring them closer to the stop spacing introduced on the 901.

WB: Harmony, Wilson East Side, Naples, Somerville, 418 Taunton, Keith Ross, Tom Edwards, Rivers Edge, Fallingbrook, Garden West Side, Middlecote, Atherton, 1328 Westney, Rossland North Side, Ivers, 350 Westney, Replace 216 Westney with a stop at Ravenscroft, Millington, and Fairall.

for the most part, this list of removals can be reversed in the opposite direction.

[Gamer Studios]

On 2/19/2022 at 3:47 PM, 110B West Pickering said:

Good question, it’s been something I’ve been trying to figure out for some time now, but DRT hasn’t provided an answer yet to me.

I suppose it's to prevent people from hitting their heads on the door when the bus brakes hard...

 

[J. Hollingsworth]

20 minutes ago, Gamer Studios said:

I suppose it's to prevent people from hitting their heads on the door when the bus brakes hard...

 

If that we’re the case, the seating in the midsection between the middle doors and the Bellows would have the seats next to the doors blocked off too, but they don’t.

[Gamer Studios]

On 2/23/2022 at 3:56 PM, 110B West Pickering said:

If that we’re the case, the seating in the midsection between the middle doors and the Bellows would have the seats next to the doors blocked off too, but they don’t.

I don't know but there have been weird lawsuits going around...for example MiWay blocking off random seats due to a "fall hazard"...so I guess something may have happened with DRT as well

[Gil]

On 2/2/2022 at 2:47 PM, 110B West Pickering said:

WAVE Shuttle has officially concluded in light of the shutdown of local motors and the collision 

announcement coming later today

How much of a lead time is there with the DRT System Map production?  The one dated to take effect March 7, 2022 still has the the 300 WAVE shuttle depicted.

Hasty patch-up job, a notice attached to the map or just left as is?  How widely circulated/distributed/available are the maps in a physical format?  I mean if they're only available digitally, it shouldn't be that hard to remove the route from the map.

Going back to the Metrolinx wayfinding/terminal maps, I guess I didn't peruse far enough in the manual to find this example for Pickering GO on Page 184 (which you can zoom in further in the .pdf to actually make out the details):

[2044]

On 2/23/2022 at 8:24 AM, 110B West Pickering said:

It appears all D40LFs will be retired and listed for sale by the time the Hybrids arrive in April.

Were the hybrids purchased through the Metrolinx TPI?

[Tom1122]

2 hours ago, Gil said:

How much of a lead time is there with the DRT System Map production?  The one dated to take effect March 7, 2022 still has the the 300 WAVE shuttle depicted.

Hasty patch-up job, a notice attached to the map or just left as is?  How widely circulated/distributed/available are the maps in a physical format?  I mean if they're only available digitally, it shouldn't be that hard to remove the route from the map.

Going back to the Metrolinx wayfinding/terminal maps, I guess I didn't peruse far enough in the manual to find this example for Pickering GO on Page 184 (which you can zoom in further in the .pdf to actually make out the details):

I don't see why DRT couldn't run a conventional bus on the WAVE shuttle with Olle being gone.

Speaking of which, whatever became of automated buses?

[smallspy]

9 hours ago, Tom1122 said:

Speaking of which, whatever became of automated buses?

https://jalopnik.com/local-motors-is-dead-and-you-can-now-rummage-through-t-1848584583

[ZümmyZüm]

On 2/25/2022 at 9:29 PM, 2044 said:

Were the hybrids purchased through the Metrolinx TPI?

I don’t have a positive answer but the current TPI with NovaBus does have the option for Hybrid, as well as CNG 

[J. Hollingsworth]

On 2/25/2022 at 9:29 PM, 2044 said:

Were the hybrids purchased through the Metrolinx TPI?

Yes.

Delivery scheduled to begin in april

[J. Hollingsworth]

They "fixed" the system map, very roughly I might add

 

[J. Hollingsworth]

8523 is now a Whitby Unit, in addition to 8529. More units are likely to swapped between divisions for some time after the D40LFs are gone

[Gamer Studios]

DRT 5103 was seen NB on Simcoe around 6PM (Raleigh based 2020 Arboc SOF 27')

[J. Hollingsworth]

56 minutes ago, Gamer Studios said:

DRT 5103 was seen NB on Simcoe around 6PM (Raleigh based 2020 Arboc SOF 27')

They’re out all the time

[Gamer Studios]

7 minutes ago, 110B West Pickering said:

They’re out all the time

I know but it's cool (I believe 5103 is the only Arboc allocated to Raleigh)

8517 has a updated D.C wrap.

[J. Hollingsworth]

https://www.durham.ca/en/news/durham-region-seeking-feedback-on-design-options-for-bus-shelters-along-the-pulse-highway-2-route.aspx

survey for the design of the new BRT Stops in Ajax and Pickering

[Gamer Studios]

On 2/22/2022 at 11:52 PM, 7749 said:

All 07 D40LF's should be retired. 8431's posting hasn't been posted yet but hasn't seen service in a month, just about the same amount of time 8435 has gone without service

According to a operator it's been disabled... (8431). I guess that means its been stripped...

DRT 8473 on 917 Bayly-Consumers 

[7749]

On 3/7/2022 at 8:23 PM, Gamer Studios said:

According to a operator it's been disabled... (8431). I guess that means its been stripped...

Wouldn't surprise me if it was, still hasnt seen service for more than a month

[Gamer Studios]

On 3/10/2022 at 1:13 AM, 7749 said:

Wouldn't surprise me if it was, still hasnt seen service for more than a month

Ye not sure why it's taking quite a while to be listed on govdeals

[Gil]

On 3/7/2022 at 4:07 PM, 110B West Pickering said:

https://www.durham.ca/en/news/durham-region-seeking-feedback-on-design-options-for-bus-shelters-along-the-pulse-highway-2-route.aspx

survey for the design of the new BRT Stops in Ajax and Pickering

Looking at the bus shelter designs, are they supposed to be one-ended (towards the pedestrian crossing) or will they be open at both ends making for an unfortunate wind tunnel?

As for the back of the shelter, I don't see why they couldn't include a variation that had both.  The stop name with the pulse as an underline of sorts.  There isn't much in terms of signage on the inside of the shelter, so from the bus passenger's perspective aside from the automated announcement system, they won't know which stop they're at.  VIVA, Züm and the Mississauga Transitway all have signage facing the passengers on board so they can tell where they are.  Having the name on the outside only helps the passengers trying to get to the stop.

[Gamer Studios]

9 minutes ago, Gil said:

Looking at the bus shelter designs, are they supposed to be one-ended (towards the pedestrian crossing) or will they be open at both ends making for an unfortunate wind tunnel?

As for the back of the shelter, I don't see why they couldn't include a variation that had both.  The stop name with the pulse as an underline of sorts.  There isn't much in terms of signage on the inside of the shelter, so from the bus passenger's perspective aside from the automated announcement system, they won't know which stop they're at.  VIVA, Züm and the Mississauga Transitway all have signage facing the passengers on board so they can tell where they are.  Having the name on the outside only helps the passengers trying to get to the stop.

They could incorporate doors (similar to GO Transit) since these stops are exposed to the elements too...

Besides I bet a whole host of complaints will head towards DRT customer service if these bus stops become "wind tunnels"

[Gil]

6 minutes ago, Gamer Studios said:

They could incorporate doors (similar to GO Transit) since these stops are exposed to the elements too...

Besides I bet a whole host of complaints will head towards DRT customer service if these bus stops become "wind tunnels"

Are the bus doors also supposed to line up with the openings in the shelter?  They're going to need some exact stopping points and extensive training for the drivers.  But if a place like Curitiba, Brazil can do it...  However, there doesn't appear to be anything to keep the doorways closed when a bus isn't there.