Bus_Medic Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 1 hour ago, FutureHeartsJunkie said: I’m too old to understand any of that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someguy3071 Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 This thing drives what, 20km/h? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayside Observer Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 15 hours ago, Articulated said: I think the only thing more concerning to me than the fact that one of these crashed (so quickly into the pilot, mind you) is that the on-board operator was unable to stop it before it left the roadway and collided with the tree. There's gonna need to be a lot of questions surrounding how even the "fail-safe" couldn't prevent the accident from occurring. I haven't had the chance to see one of these in person yet so I was wondering if there were any big red emergency stop buttons that the attendant (or passengers, eg. like the emergency brake cords on subway, Go trains) could press the moment things went awry. Then again, looking at the pictures of the accident, even if there were, the attendant might not have been able to get to one if they got knocked down by the vehicle mounting the curb by the time they realized things were going south if it happened quickly. I hope the vehicle's attendant makes a full and fast recovery. It's going to be interesting to see what there is to be learned from this accident because autonomous vehicles are still very much in their infancy and might not be as ready for prime time as had been hoped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZümmyZüm Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 3 hours ago, Wayside Observer said: I haven't had the chance to see one of these in person yet so I was wondering if there were any big red emergency stop buttons that the attendant (or passengers, eg. like the emergency brake cords on subway, Go trains) could press the moment things went awry. Then again, looking at the pictures of the accident, even if there were, the attendant might not have been able to get to one if they got knocked down by the vehicle mounting the curb by the time they realized things were going south if it happened quickly. I hope the vehicle's attendant makes a full and fast recovery. It's going to be interesting to see what there is to be learned from this accident because autonomous vehicles are still very much in their infancy and might not be as ready for prime time as had been hoped. here’s a photo from “Articulated” that he posted on Facebook awhile back, it shows the control system is a joystick and what could be a red emergency stop button. I haven’t seen it in person to know if that’s indeed it’s function edit: zoomed in an it’s indeed a “emergency stop” button Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayside Observer Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 1 minute ago, ZümmyZüm said: here’s a photo from “Articulated” that he posted on Facebook awhile back, it shows the control system is a joystick and what could be a red emergency stop button. I haven’t seen it in person to know if that’s indeed it’s function Interesting. I zoomed the photo and that is indeed an emergency stop - it’s labelled as such on the side of the yellow enclosure. The location looks a bit too out of the way for my liking especially since the vehicle is intended to be autonomous, it’s far from guaranteed that the attendant will be standing right at the operator controls, and if things go bad fast or violently and the attendant can’t get to the button in time, the results could be bad. Actually, it will be interesting to see the results of the accident investigation if the emergency stop button did get pressed or if it happened in such a way that the attendant didn’t get a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaT Posted December 19, 2021 Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 I havent read much into the posts regarding this, but could it have been a medical trauma that caused the accident if the operator was in control? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Bullock Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 On 12/16/2021 at 8:58 PM, Articulated said: I think the only thing more concerning to me than the fact that one of these crashed (so quickly into the pilot, mind you) is that the on-board operator was unable to stop it before it left the roadway and collided with the tree. There's gonna need to be a lot of questions surrounding how even the "fail-safe" couldn't prevent the accident from occurring. I suspect the high winds, poor road conditions, and the overall design of the bus contributed to the crash, as opposed to some sort of technological flaw. On 12/17/2021 at 1:05 AM, Someguy3071 said: This thing drives what, 20km/h? Yes, 40km/h in manual mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamer Studios Posted December 23, 2021 Report Share Posted December 23, 2021 6 hours ago, J. Bullock said: I suspect the high winds, poor road conditions, and the overall design of the bus contributed to the crash, as opposed to some sort of technological flaw. Yes, 40km/h in manual mode. Yea I believe at the time winds likely contributed to the accident Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted December 23, 2021 Report Share Posted December 23, 2021 I wonder if they did any cold weather testing. I wonder if those tires are any good in snow or icy conditions. That route has some small hills and even at slow speeds it can be difficult to get up the hill without good tires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamer Studios Posted December 27, 2021 Report Share Posted December 27, 2021 DRT retired 8533 from its accident on the 922. It was written off. Can someone update the Wiki on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Hollingsworth Posted December 27, 2021 Report Share Posted December 27, 2021 25 minutes ago, Gamer Studios said: DRT retired 8533 from its accident on the 922. It was written off. Can someone update the Wiki on it? I actually meant to do this yesterday, I added 7118-7122 which are due for delivery in January, I couldn’t find a single mention of the purchase of these buses, much like 6117-6119 when they were delivered, however, DRT provided an updated roster that had these vehicles listed, and I confirmed that the 5 more PULSE 40’ Novas will be delivered then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamer Studios Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 On 12/27/2021 at 1:57 PM, 110B West Pickering said: I actually meant to do this yesterday, I added 7118-7122 which are due for delivery in January, I couldn’t find a single mention of the purchase of these buses, much like 6117-6119 when they were delivered, however, DRT provided an updated roster that had these vehicles listed, and I confirmed that the 5 more PULSE 40’ Novas will be delivered then. Must be expansion units (i suppose) On 12/23/2021 at 11:36 AM, Shaun said: I wonder if they did any cold weather testing. I wonder if those tires are any good in snow or icy conditions. That route has some small hills and even at slow speeds it can be difficult to get up the hill without good tires. It's 3D printed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulated Posted December 31, 2021 Report Share Posted December 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Gamer Studios said: It's 3D printed... The body is 3D printed, the tires are not. Those are the more critical component for traction in winter driving... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamer Studios Posted December 31, 2021 Report Share Posted December 31, 2021 3 hours ago, Articulated said: The body is 3D printed, the tires are not. Those are the more critical component for traction in winter driving... See the body is 3D printed...may have used lightweight material in it... DRT 8444 is in Thunder Bay living it's second life Photos are from Richard Oldfield's transit group on Facebook It's now with a company branded as Care Bus by NorWest Community Health Centres based in Thunder Bay, Ontario 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidH Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 Durham Police have released a statement on the autonomous bus crash. Key points: - The driver has been released from hospital and a full recovery is expected. - The vehicle was being operated in manual mode and therefore the safety systems were disabled. - The investigation is ongoing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 7 minutes ago, DavidH said: Durham Police have released a statement on the autonomous bus crash. Key points: - The driver has been released from hospital and a full recovery is expected. - The vehicle was being operated in manual mode and therefore the safety systems were disabled. - The investigation is ongoing. I hope he wasn't texting 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris W Posted January 6 Report Share Posted January 6 7 hours ago, DavidH said: Durham Police have released a statement on the autonomous bus crash. Key points: - The driver has been released from hospital and a full recovery is expected. - The vehicle was being operated in manual mode and therefore the safety systems were disabled. - The investigation is ongoing. Boy I'm glad to hear that he's going to be okay. He was a nice guy when I met him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom1122 Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 Any idea if Olle will be repaired? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidH Posted January 14 Report Share Posted January 14 Here’s a twist. The maker of Olli has shut down. https://techcrunch.com/2022/01/13/local-motors-the-startup-that-created-the-olli-autonomous-shuttle-has-shutdown/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Hollingsworth Posted January 14 Report Share Posted January 14 25 minutes ago, DavidH said: Here’s a twist. The maker of Olli has shut down. https://techcrunch.com/2022/01/13/local-motors-the-startup-that-created-the-olli-autonomous-shuttle-has-shutdown/ Wow, I wonder what that means for DRT and TTC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A Posted January 14 Report Share Posted January 14 1 hour ago, 110B West Pickering said: Wow, I wonder what that means for DRT and TTC The projects are most likely done for good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 8434 and 8448 are listed for sale on Govdeals. https://www.govdeals.ca/index.cfm?fa=Main.Item&itemid=238&acctid=7550 https://www.govdeals.ca/index.cfm?fa=Main.Item&itemid=237&acctid=7550 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Hollingsworth Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 20 minutes ago, G.A said: 8434 and 8448 are listed for sale on Govdeals. https://www.govdeals.ca/index.cfm?fa=Main.Item&itemid=238&acctid=7550 https://www.govdeals.ca/index.cfm?fa=Main.Item&itemid=237&acctid=7550 Likely due to 7118-7122’ pending delivery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7749 Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 22 hours ago, G.A said: 8434 and 8448 are listed for sale on Govdeals. https://www.govdeals.ca/index.cfm?fa=Main.Item&itemid=238&acctid=7550 https://www.govdeals.ca/index.cfm?fa=Main.Item&itemid=237&acctid=7550 Someone beat me to it I edited it on the wiki now, hopefully it's fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gil Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 Fingers crossed the Cornell Terminal actually opens this spring as expected, how far down the priority list is getting DRT service to it? GO is currently the only option for people commuting by public transit between York and Durham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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