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9 hours ago, Gamer Studios said:

The same bus also broke down on the 900 - overheard the radio system where another op was calling in dispatch saying of a oil leak

8617 went out of service at Harmony Term, it was 25min late finishing up a run on the 915. The operator said it was going out of service because of mechanical problems 

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3 hours ago, 110B West Pickering said:

According to deputy general manager of operations, the 915 will be confirmed as a PULSE route at the next major service change and once the new PULSE units are in service.

assume either the December or January changes come into effect, likely January 

Any word on frequency/stops yet? 

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I have been told from 2 sources that work for DRT (one in management and one in scheduling) that the plans for 2022 are very ambitious. 

First the 915 will be a more frequent faster service as pulse. There will be a few less stops and to make up for the less stops will be more local service on certain routes. The idea that has been floated around is there will be a couple of new routes that serve Pickering and Ajax as well as a new route that serves Whitby and Oshawa. The route in Pickering will leave the Pickering Parkway terminal and it will go to Whites road and then north to Taunton, from there it will travel east towards Ajax and will go down Salem or Harwood and go down to Kingston Road and then proceed to Westney and over to the Ajax GO. There will be a similar route that will operate from Whitby GO and it will travel up Brock St to Taunton and then go east to Simcoe, then north to Winfield farms, turning onto Winchester heading east to Harmony and into the Harmony terminal. Another route will start at UOIT and head to Harmony terminal and then down to King and proceed onto Bond and then it will turn onto Stevenson and proceed to the Oshawa GO station. The plan for these routes is they will essentially take pressure off of other routes and it will fill voids, in certain areas where routes were temporarily discontinued and replaced with on demand. The new route that serves Taunton from Whites, towards Salem or Harwood (route to be determined), will be there for all the new houses are built. 

DRT is also going to be upgrading the 920 to a full 7 day a week service. Outside of rush hours all trips will be extended to McCowan station. There will also be service to Simcoe and Founders 7 days a week. Eventually that route will be extended to service Windfields farms. 

There will also be a new branch of the 915 that will serve, Taunton and Steeles going to Markham road and then it will proceed up to highway 7 and serve the new Cornell terminal. There will also be a route from Cornell terminal to service highway 7 to Simcoe and Winchester then over to UOIT. There are also plans to beef up service going to Uxbridge. That route will run hourly and there will be a local route in Uxbridge as well as a potential route headed back to Newmarket, but running more often then it used to. The idea behind that is to get more service running between Newmarket and Uxbridge to connect with the 905 heading south as well as GO service. 

Bowmanville will see the return of local bus service as well as a route that will run to Newcastle from Bowmanville. The local service will be timed to meet the 902 bus at the little bus loop over by the Loblaws on Highway 2. 

A lot of these service changes will be in September but some other ones will be implemented sooner, especially when the Cornell terminal opens in Markham as they want the 2 routes running soon to get the amazon employees. Amazon workers in Durham currently have no service from Markham road so the new branch of the 915 will run 7 days a week for 21 or so hours per day. Possibly with a chance to go 24 hours in the future. Amazon is also currently building a warehouse off of HWY 7 and that is the reason for the new service that will run along that corridor. A lot of these plans have been in place for a few years except the pandemic sped things up. Another thing that I was told was that they will be changing and expanding the on demand service. Currently the on demand service has a lot of limitations on where you can go using it. But soon a lot more of the on demand areas will allow for drop offs at GO stations, and major transfer points. Depending where you are in Port Perry or even Uxbridge you can only go to where you can connect to the 905 route but soon you will be able to go on demand to Harmony terminal or UOIT. 

It is going to be nice to see all the changes over the next year or so. 

Longer term plans (2023) are to see more routes either reinstated or partially replaced by more local loop type routes that connect more areas such as the loops in Pickering to Ajax and Whitby to Oshawa. There will also be some modified local routes in Oshawa, Courtice and Bowmanville to service the future GO stations. Basically the routes will be modified so that when train service finally runs the bus network will already be in place. Also for 2023 there will be a lot of changes to the local services from Pickering all the way to Oshawa. The idea will be to eliminate some of the straight North/South routes and merge portions of routes together to cover more area. Also there will be more routes that cover multiple GO stations. Pickering to Whitby will be covered by a new route that will service parts of Rossland so that when the 916 becomes a PULSE there can be less stops on the PULSE route. 

I saw someone else posting about certain routes and the timeline for turning into a PULSE service, but that timeline is off slightly. By the end of 2023 all the 9xx routes will be PULSE as well as several more. There are plans for around 10-12 PULSE routes in the region including 2 or 3 heading into York Region to connect to VIVA buses. 

 

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41 minutes ago, John Oke said:

When could we start to see more local routes return?

From what I understand is most local routes that were cancelled are gone and will be partially replaced by these new loop type routes starting next year 

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2 hours ago, Uwe said:

That’s some great writing.  How do you explain the departure from their recently approved service strategy?

Well, that was quick. I would assume that either ridership have been exceeding expectations OR that DRT realized that they have enough funds to accelerate the service strategy by the end of 2023 with an additional 10-12 PULSE routes

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On 10/12/2021 at 2:39 PM, brianc1981 said:

I have been told from 2 sources that work for DRT (one in management and one in scheduling) that the plans for 2022 are very ambitious. 

really hate to be “this guy” but I’d argue lots of this is highly inaccurate, but appreciate that you’re reporting the information you have on hand. 

I sit on the Durham Region Transit Advisory Committee, resulting from this I have the opportunity to speak with higher ups on a regular monthly basis, including 

- Bill Holmes (General Manager)

- Christopher Norris (Deputy GM, Operations) and 

- Michael Binetti (Lead Service design and Scheduling)

Everything related to DRT service, routes and whatnot, goes through at least one of these three gentlemen, and gets reported in Service Update overviews, and service plan approvals at the monthly Transit Executive Committee meetings.

Pretty well none, of what was mentioned has ever had motion in the eyes of council. 

In fact, recently Durham Region Transit began implementation of “The Route Ahead 2022-2025 Service Plan”

This report can be found in the September 2021 TEC Agenda at this link: https://calendar.durham.ca/meetings/Detail/2021-09-08-1330-Transit-Executive-Committee-Meeting/ac0d6753-2a4f-496d-b79d-ad9800964fffhttps://calendar.durham.ca/meetings/Detail/2021-09-08-1330-Transit-Executive-Committee-Meeting/ac0d6753-2a4f-496d-b79d-ad9800964fff 

Information regarding “The Route Ahead” can be found on page 23.

I’d like to also make note that these plans historically have proven to be accurate, these documents really do often come to fruition mostly in their entirety. The previous service plan had almost entirely became a reality.

In this response, I also want to detail some of thee details of the 2022-2025 service plan.

On 10/12/2021 at 2:39 PM, brianc1981 said:

First the 915 will be a more frequent faster service as pulse. There will be a few less stops and to make up for the less stops will be more local service on certain routes. The idea that has been floated around is there will be a couple of new routes that serve Pickering and Ajax as well as a new route that serves Whitby and Oshawa. The route in Pickering will leave the Pickering Parkway terminal and it will go to Whites road and then north to Taunton, from there it will travel east towards Ajax and will go down Salem or Harwood and go down to Kingston Road and then proceed to Westney and over to the Ajax GO. There will be a similar route that will operate from Whitby GO and it will travel up Brock St to Taunton and then go east to Simcoe, then north to Winfield farms, turning onto Winchester heading east to Harmony and into the Harmony terminal. Another route will start at UOIT and head to Harmony terminal and then down to King and proceed onto Bond and then it will turn onto Stevenson and proceed to the Oshawa GO station. The plan for these routes is they will essentially take pressure off of other routes and it will fill voids, in certain areas where routes were temporarily discontinued and replaced with on demand. The new route that serves Taunton from Whites, towards Salem or Harwood (route to be determined), will be there for all the new houses are built. 

DRT is also going to be upgrading the 920 to a full 7 day a week service. Outside of rush hours all trips will be extended to McCowan station. There will also be service to Simcoe and Founders 7 days a week. Eventually that route will be extended to service Windfields farms. 

There will also be a new branch of the 915 that will serve, Taunton and Steeles going to Markham road and then it will proceed up to highway 7 and serve the new Cornell terminal. There will also be a route from Cornell terminal to service highway 7 to Simcoe and Winchester then over to UOIT. There are also plans to beef up service going to Uxbridge. That route will run hourly and there will be a local route in Uxbridge as well as a potential route headed back to Newmarket, but running more often then it used to. The idea behind that is to get more service running between Newmarket and Uxbridge to connect with the 905 heading south as well as GO service. 

Bowmanville will see the return of local bus service as well as a route that will run to Newcastle from Bowmanville. The local service will be timed to meet the 902 bus at the little bus loop over by the Loblaws on Highway 2. 

A lot of these service changes will be in September but some other ones will be implemented sooner, especially when the Cornell terminal opens in Markham as they want the 2 routes running soon to get the amazon employees. Amazon workers in Durham currently have no service from Markham road so the new branch of the 915 will run 7 days a week for 21 or so hours per day. Possibly with a chance to go 24 hours in the future. Amazon is also currently building a warehouse off of HWY 7 and that is the reason for the new service that will run along that corridor. A lot of these plans have been in place for a few years except the pandemic sped things up. Another thing that I was told was that they will be changing and expanding the on demand service. Currently the on demand service has a lot of limitations on where you can go using it. But soon a lot more of the on demand areas will allow for drop offs at GO stations, and major transfer points. Depending where you are in Port Perry or even Uxbridge you can only go to where you can connect to the 905 route but soon you will be able to go on demand to Harmony terminal or UOIT. 

It is going to be nice to see all the changes over the next year or so. 

Longer term plans (2023) are to see more routes either reinstated or partially replaced by more local loop type routes that connect more areas such as the loops in Pickering to Ajax and Whitby to Oshawa. There will also be some modified local routes in Oshawa, Courtice and Bowmanville to service the future GO stations. Basically the routes will be modified so that when train service finally runs the bus network will already be in place. Also for 2023 there will be a lot of changes to the local services from Pickering all the way to Oshawa. The idea will be to eliminate some of the straight North/South routes and merge portions of routes together to cover more area. Also there will be more routes that cover multiple GO stations. Pickering to Whitby will be covered by a new route that will service parts of Rossland so that when the 916 becomes a PULSE there can be less stops on the PULSE route. 

I saw someone else posting about certain routes and the timeline for turning into a PULSE service, but that timeline is off slightly. By the end of 2023 all the 9xx routes will be PULSE as well as several more. There are plans for around 10-12 PULSE routes in the region including 2 or 3 heading into York Region to connect to VIVA buses. 

 

The 915 Taunton is proposed to be developed as a PULSE Route as I mentioned previously with the schedule of next year, the 916 will follow in 2023 and the 902A in 2025.

While yes, a number of routes are planned come back in the coming months and years, currently none of what you have proposed is represented by Durham Region Transit in any of these service plan documents.

A number of new routes are proposed, and can be seen on page 34, here’s a brief summary of what can be deciphered, note not all routes have route numbers, though some have been identified in past agendas and presentations. 

Route 103 and Route 110 modifications, allowing for an extension of route 103 to Altona Road and Pine Grove Avenue via Strouds Lane, rather than via Whites, and Kingston. Route 110 will now continue as it previously did when route 110B existed prior to covid, no longer serving Sunbird Trail. This route however will not serve Pine Grove and Valley Ridge directly, rather only on Altona Road. 

Route 211 - New route connecting Ajax and Pickering from Ajax GO Station to Pickering Parkway Terminal via Westney, Ravenscroft, Delaney, Church, Kingston, Notion and Pickering Parkway.

This route is drawn in green, identifying a local route operating at least Monday-Saturday every 30 minutes or better

A slew of new “GO Connect” routes will be introduced in Ajax, having similar service spans and frequencies to the recently introduced routes 103 and 112

A new route will service a large loop throughout Central Ajax, operating from Ajax GO, Travel via Westney, Bayly, Harwood, Taunton, Salem and Gillet and Wiliamson to Audrey, before turning back south via Audrey, Rossland, Salem, Bayly, and Westney back to the Ajax GO Station

A second new route will be introduced from Ajax GO serving the Audrey South neighbourhood,  travel via Westney, Bayly, Audley, Ashbury Shoal Point, Range Line and Pickering Beach before using Bayly and Westney to return to Ajax GO Station.

Whitby will see similar treatment with two new GO Connect routes, sharing service hours and frequencies with the aforementioned.

A new route from Whitby GO serving West Whitby will travel via Brock, Burns, Annes, Dundas, Des Newman, Rossland, Concession, Taunton, Country Lane, and Rossland before travelling back to Whitby GO.

A second route will serve Garden and Central north Whitby, the route will travel via Brock, Consumers, Garden, Robert Atteresley, Brock, Taunton, Anderson, Dryden, then return south to Whitby Station via Garden.

This new route will also mean spark a revision to route 392 to reduce duplication of service, this results in route 392 using Rossland, Anderson, Hopkins and Burns Street instead of Garden Street

In Oshawa, only 1 more local route is planned serving east Oshawa. Travel from Oshawa Centre (Oshawa Central GO in the future) along Gibb, Olive, Townline, Adelaide, and Margate before returning to the OC in reverse. 

Local Area Transit Plans

Of course, this isn’t all that is planned, these services don’t address new growth areas and some rural destinations, 

Specific transit plans will be developed and presented to stakeholders, and the Transit Executive Committee in February 2022.  Plans will be developed for the following areas

Bowmanville

Newcastle

Courtice

Kerdon & Windfields Farm

Brooklin

Pickering,

Port Perry and Uxbridge

These plans may call for extensions of routes, new routes, or even the simplification in service to propel more people to OnDemand in low ridership areas.

For example, Windfields Farm, and Seaton to expected to see enormous growth, these areas are likely to see the creation of new routes, likely serving new terminals or GO Transit Park and Rides along the 407 corridor. This is where in previous service plans a route has been called for service between Durham College and Brock Road/407 Park and ride via Highway 7/Winchester, with another service operating to Cornell, however, this reports defers this to 2022 when the LATP is revealed.

In places like Bowmanville and Newcastle, service on route 902 is nearing ridership to support a weekday peak period extension to Newcastle with service operating every 90 minutes at other times. In 2022, peak period service is likely to begin.

In Port Perry, speculation has it that route 905 will be adjusted to operate more directly throughout the town, this is to provide more consistent service, and reduce travel time on the 905. This is like the setup in Uxbridge. New OnDemand zones will. Be introduced where service is removed, and solutions that may be introduced in places like Port Perry include OnDemand community buses that service specific locations that riders can request to be shuttled around to. Much like the service model in York Region on Mobility On Request routes in Mount Albert and Holland Landing.

Another report recently presented to TEC, the Demand Responsive Service Study, also calls for OnDemand and Specialized Services to merge, utilizing a single fleet, a single dispatch system, and a single set of operators. This will result in less reliance on the contractor, and open up use of larger cutaway vehicles on OnDemand services where they make more sense.  This document also is where reference is made to the rebranding of DRT including, livery, uniforms, and external facing infrastructure such as bus stop signs. All beginning in Q10Q2 2022 and wrapping up in 2024.

Lastly… No, there will not be 12 PULSE routes, not only do we not have the vehicles to do that, the region will not invest in transit priority throughout that large of an area, until 2025, the only routes to be PULSEified are the 900, 901, 902, 915 and 916.

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20 hours ago, 110B West Pickering said:

really hate to be “this guy” but I’d argue lots of this is highly inaccurate, but appreciate that you’re reporting the information you have on hand. 

I sit on the Durham Region Transit Advisory Committee, resulting from this I have the opportunity to speak with higher ups on a regular monthly basis, including 

- Bill Holmes (General Manager)

- Christopher Norris (Deputy GM, Operations) and 

- Michael Binetti (Lead Service design and Scheduling)

Everything related to DRT service, routes and whatnot, goes through at least one of these three gentlemen, and gets reported in Service Update overviews, and service plan approvals at the monthly Transit Executive Committee meetings.

I didn't know you were on the Durham Region Transit Advisory Committee. There was a report that from a couple months back that DRT was considering to explore zero-fare transit in order to recover the ridership to pre-pandemic levels. In the report, DRT mentioned that they're doing a study whether is possible to implement zero-fare transit temporarily. DRT also said that the study report must be completed this fall. My question to you is that is the study report already completed or is it still in the process? 

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1 hour ago, senzation#3 said:

I didn't know you were on the Durham Region Transit Advisory Committee. There was a report that from a couple months back that DRT was considering to explore zero-fare transit in order to recover the ridership to pre-pandemic levels. In the report, DRT mentioned that they're doing a study whether is possible to implement zero-fare transit temporarily. DRT also said that the study report must be completed this fall. My question to you is that is the study report already completed or is it still in the process? 

I don’t believe anything came of it, nor will it if the item is reported back.

Zero Fare hasn’t really been something they considered, it was Initially discussed after a councillor asked if removing fares would be beneficial for DRT, post fare suspension in March to July of 2020.

TEC heard the presentation, saw the costs and were presented with alternatives on how that kind of investment could be better used, money that to be fair… doesn’t even currently exist.

I don’t think we will be seeing any fare cut anytime soon 

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On 10/14/2021 at 12:04 AM, 110B West Pickering said:

really hate to be “this guy” but I’d argue lots of this is highly inaccurate, but appreciate that you’re reporting the information you have on hand. 

I sit on the Durham Region Transit Advisory Committee, resulting from this I have the opportunity to speak with higher ups on a regular monthly basis, including 

- Bill Holmes (General Manager)

- Christopher Norris (Deputy GM, Operations) and 

- Michael Binetti (Lead Service design and Scheduling)

Everything related to DRT service, routes and whatnot, goes through at least one of these three gentlemen, and gets reported in Service Update overviews, and service plan approvals at the monthly Transit Executive Committee meetings.

Pretty well none, of what was mentioned has ever had motion in the eyes of council. 

In fact, recently Durham Region Transit began implementation of “The Route Ahead 2022-2025 Service Plan”

I just took info I had got from a phone call I had with someone at the region. I wrote down everything I was told and reported it. The reason I was told for all of these changes was because they are looking to boost ridership as soon as possible, as well as the fact that ridership and ridership patterns will change due to covid. A lot of the stuff he discussed with me was stuff that was talked about in the last 2 months or so. 

I had called in to the region to find out what was going on with routes like the 920 not running to Oshawa on the weekend, or the fact that to get to a whole new development such as Windfield farms the bus that goes by there is running every 90 minutes and anything else you have to walk a substantial distance too. The gentleman that called me back from the planning department said that all the growth and all the development permits issued in the region over the last 12 months has changed where bus service needs to be implemented. He also said that some of the areas they were planning to see redevelopment in has been pushed more so lately. Some areas they expected development starting in 2023 or later and now there are whole subdivisions being built. He also said that with the 2 amazon warehouses it is estimated that many people will travel into durham from Vaughn and Toronto among other areas and will need to get to work, hence the service running to Cornell terminal. He also said in the last 6 months there have been approximately 1000 enquiries as to why there is no direct routing to the Amazon warehouse just off Markham road and Steeles from Pickering. The gentleman I spoke to also pointed out a lot of what is in the Route Ahead 2022-2025 service plan stops short of a lot of the regions needs currently and he said that a lot of those ideas will be implemented but at the same time a lot of things that he told me and I wrote above is stuff that needs to happen faster to allow for the other services to work. He said that currently with all the demand to the 2 Amazon warehouses and the 1 off Steeles they need to build these routes fast. They also need to get more service that connects neighbourhoods to the bus services running across the region. 

As for all the Pulse routes, he said that there are plans for 10-12. As we know there is the existing 900 and 901. There will be an official changeover of the 902, 905, 915 and 916. So that brings it up to 6. There is going to be a Pulse bus from Cornell along 7/Winchester that will operate into Brooklin and then go down to Whitby Station. He told me there will be a new Pulse bus that will operate into Newcastle, but the details were not finalized but he said it would probably be a branch service of the 902, but it would probably start at Harmony terminal to Liberty road and down. He also talked about possibly having the 920 as a form of Pulse service. He also told me there are plans to run back to Davis/404 and run it more often. He said ridership was low when it ran before but it was because of how limited the service was and as a region they have heard many people who what that service back. 

If some of this stuff I was told turns out to be wrong then I will be happy to be proven wrong, but I would really hope most of this service is accurate as he did provide great ideas for improving service and to allow runs to run more often in certain areas then before. He also stated that these new routes that are being proposed would be a great way to restore service in some areas without have low ridership routes or duplication of services in some areas. The idea of running the 915 with less stops also works well for the fact that the local bus routes that would run along parts of Taunton would take more people to transfer point stops. 

I think these are good ideas and I hope they do implement a lot of this stuff but if not I do trust that whatever they build serves Durham well because it is clear this system is broken right now and is being held together by bandaid fixes and a lot of that was due to the cuts in service because of the pandemic. 

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22 minutes ago, brianc1981 said:

I just took info I had got from a phone call I had with someone at the region. I wrote down everything I was told and reported it. The reason I was told for all of these changes was because they are looking to boost ridership as soon as possible, as well as the fact that ridership and ridership patterns will change due to covid. A lot of the stuff he discussed with me was stuff that was talked about in the last 2 months or so. 

I had called in to the region to find out what was going on with routes like the 920 not running to Oshawa on the weekend, or the fact that to get to a whole new development such as Windfield farms the bus that goes by there is running every 90 minutes and anything else you have to walk a substantial distance too. The gentleman that called me back from the planning department said that all the growth and all the development permits issued in the region over the last 12 months has changed where bus service needs to be implemented. He also said that some of the areas they were planning to see redevelopment in has been pushed more so lately. Some areas they expected development starting in 2023 or later and now there are whole subdivisions being built. He also said that with the 2 amazon warehouses it is estimated that many people will travel into durham from Vaughn and Toronto among other areas and will need to get to work, hence the service running to Cornell terminal. He also said in the last 6 months there have been approximately 1000 enquiries as to why there is no direct routing to the Amazon warehouse just off Markham road and Steeles from Pickering. The gentleman I spoke to also pointed out a lot of what is in the Route Ahead 2022-2025 service plan stops short of a lot of the regions needs currently and he said that a lot of those ideas will be implemented but at the same time a lot of things that he told me and I wrote above is stuff that needs to happen faster to allow for the other services to work. He said that currently with all the demand to the 2 Amazon warehouses and the 1 off Steeles they need to build these routes fast. They also need to get more service that connects neighbourhoods to the bus services running across the region. 

As for all the Pulse routes, he said that there are plans for 10-12. As we know there is the existing 900 and 901. There will be an official changeover of the 902, 905, 915 and 916. So that brings it up to 6. There is going to be a Pulse bus from Cornell along 7/Winchester that will operate into Brooklin and then go down to Whitby Station. He told me there will be a new Pulse bus that will operate into Newcastle, but the details were not finalized but he said it would probably be a branch service of the 902, but it would probably start at Harmony terminal to Liberty road and down. He also talked about possibly having the 920 as a form of Pulse service. He also told me there are plans to run back to Davis/404 and run it more often. He said ridership was low when it ran before but it was because of how limited the service was and as a region they have heard many people who what that service back. 

If some of this stuff I was told turns out to be wrong then I will be happy to be proven wrong, but I would really hope most of this service is accurate as he did provide great ideas for improving service and to allow runs to run more often in certain areas then before. He also stated that these new routes that are being proposed would be a great way to restore service in some areas without have low ridership routes or duplication of services in some areas. The idea of running the 915 with less stops also works well for the fact that the local bus routes that would run along parts of Taunton would take more people to transfer point stops. 

I think these are good ideas and I hope they do implement a lot of this stuff but if not I do trust that whatever they build serves Durham well because it is clear this system is broken right now and is being held together by bandaid fixes and a lot of that was due to the cuts in service because of the pandemic. 

To be fair, maybe the information you’ve heard may be implemented in part with the “Local Area Transit Plans” Section, where information currently is unavailable to the public (including myself)

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20 hours ago, 110B West Pickering said:

To be fair, maybe the information you’ve heard may be implemented in part with the “Local Area Transit Plans” Section, where information currently is unavailable to the public (including myself)

And to be fair, this information could also be someone spewing ideas that have not been discussed or voted on yet. He could just be talking out of his ass so far. But the reason I posted it is that there is a lot of good ideas there and I truly thing implementing them would be good for Durham and to improve the ridership. Personally I think the best way to improve ridership is to lower fares while adding extra service across the region. 

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On 10/20/2021 at 1:26 PM, brianc1981 said:

And to be fair, this information could also be someone spewing ideas that have not been discussed or voted on yet. He could just be talking out of his ass so far. But the reason I posted it is that there is a lot of good ideas there and I truly thing implementing them would be good for Durham and to improve the ridership. Personally I think the best way to improve ridership is to lower fares while adding extra service across the region. 

Lower fares and enhanced service is a bit of an oxymoron. A lot of service enhancements are costed by farebox return. Subsidized costs on monthly passes and single ride tickets are more obtainable. Free service for those under 12, the U-Pass program and Access Passes already break down barriers to access when it comes to public transit. DRT fares are on par with the rest of the local systems under the Metrolinx umbrella.

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Out of curiosity (and sorry if this has been mentioned recently), but it is uncommon to see a non-Pulse branded DRT bus - to operate the 900 and 901 bus routes?

Also, I was wondering if the OnDemand services will be expanded to serve the other areas where the pre-pandemic routes used to operate (notably the (theoretically) terminated 225 Audley North for example)? 

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13 hours ago, FutureHeartsJunkie said:

Out of curiosity (and sorry if this has been mentioned recently), but it is uncommon to see a non-Pulse branded DRT bus - to operate the 900 and 901 bus routes?

Also, I was wondering if the OnDemand services will be expanded to serve the other areas where the pre-pandemic routes used to operate (notably the (theoretically) terminated 225 Audley North for example)? 

To answer your first question...no...its been happening almost every day. This is partly due to whatever units they have available in the event of a breakdown

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On 10/25/2021 at 10:52 AM, Gamer Studios said:

To answer your first question...no...its been happening almost every day. This is partly due to whatever units they have available in the event of a breakdown

It's also because of some runs interlining with Pulse/Non-Pulse routes, in particular N1.

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I rode the 7:07am trip on the 920 from McCowan Station for the first time twice this week and both days there was a full seated load by the time the bus reached Port Union and Kingston Rd.

 

I wonder if DRT will consider adding one or two more trips in the morning peak considering there seems to be the demand.

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