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49 minutes ago, Oc4526 said:

Found this in my Twitter feed

Also Presto E-Tickets are now available for DRT Customers 

 

Have been since August or September.

The big news is that effective this morning, Paper transfers are issued to cash and ticket paying customers

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11 hours ago, 110B West Pickering said:

Have been since August or September.

The big news is that effective this morning, Paper transfers are issued to cash and ticket paying customers

In other related news, The Durham Region Transit Customer Service Centre (CSC) located at the Ajax GO station - now offers customers to tap using their debit card, credit card or mobile wallet/device (linked via Apple Pay, Google Pay, Samsung Pay, Fitbit Pay, Garmin Pay) when buying a PRESTO Card and loading funds/transit passes on PRESTO.

I've recently discovered that a few weeks ago when I loaded my DRT pass on PRESTO. Until recently, you have to insert your credit/debit card on the PIN Pad and enter your PIN number (on the old POS (point of sale) device). They recently upgraded to a newer model that runs on a mobile (cellular) phone connection.

While it's unclear when DRT will offer contactless payments by credit/debit cards onboard their buses, it's a giant step forward.

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18 minutes ago, FutureHeartsJunkie said:

While it's unclear when DRT will offer contactless payments by credit/debit cards onboard their buses, it's a giant step forward.

Management has said in past TEC meetings that open payment should be live in June following the pilot that’s currently in place on the Union Pearson Express,

I tried it out a few months back, works great!

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Durham Region Transit announced the June 21st 2021 service changes!

We get one new route! There are also new services added to the 224 and the 917.

https://www.durhamregiontransit.com/en/about-us/our-services-tiles.aspx#Individual-route-maps---effective-June-21-2021

Route 110 Finch:

Operating 7 Days a week, route 110 FInch will operate from Pickering Parkway Terminal to Sunbird Trail Loop via Pickering Parkway, Liverpool, Kingston, Valley Farm, Finch, and Whites, frequency will be matched with route 120 as these routes will interline at each end.

Schedules will be adjusted on route 120 to accommodate this change.

Route 224c Harwood-Salem:

On weekends, new route 224C Harwood-Salem will service Ajax Waterfront at Lake Driveway and Harwood Avenue as well as Paradise Park near the bottom of Pickering Beach Road.  All trips after approximately 10:00am on Saturdays and Sundays will operate via the waterfront destinations.

As a result, schedules on route 216 Harwood North have been updated. 

Route 917z Bayly-Consumers:

On weekends and holidays from June 26th to September 6th, route 917z will operated from Oshawa Centre Terminal to the Rouge National Urban Park entrance and the Toronto Zoo Bus Loop.

7 Trips from the Toronto Zoo will operate eastbound along the route from the Zoo, to Pickering Parkway Terminal then on to the Oshawa Centre on Saturdays, 

9 Trips will operate westbound

On sundays, 8 Eastbound trips and 7 Westbound trips will operate. 

 

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Looks like they were wrong. 

According to the VINs of DRT #8330-#8332, these buses are NOT WMATA rejects, but originally built for the New Orleans Regional Transit Authority.

- #8330 - 2B1569P78V6033266 | Rockland Coaches #1016/NORTA #97351
- #8331 - 2B1569P71V6033450 | Gray Line (Houston) #4020/NORTA #974XX
- #8332 - 2B1569P7XV6033267 | Rockland Coaches #1002/NORTA #97352

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2 minutes ago, Eren Jaeger said:

Looks like they were wrong. 

According to the VINs of DRT #8330-#8332, these buses are NOT WMATA rejects, but originally built for the New Orleans Regional Transit Authority.

- #8330 - 2B1569P71V6033268 | NORTA #97353
- #8331 - 2B1569P71V6033450 | Gray Line (Houston) #4020/NORTA #974XX
- #8332 - 2B1569P7XV6033267 | Rockland Coaches #1002/NORTA #97352

They were spec'd to look like WMATA units...

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Details on the big service changes coming this September are here!

They’re pretty significant.

Ill speak to them in order of appearance in the TEC agenda presentation that is going to council on June 2nd

Route 392 - Whitby

This route looks to replace a number of routes in Whitby that stopped operating during the pandemic, such as the 301, 303, 308 and 312.

The service will operate every 2 hours Monday to Friday only, with OnDemand still available in all other periods

the routing will start at the Oshawa Centre following Gibb, Stevenson, King, Kendalwood, Nichol, Glen Hill, Dundas, McQuay, Rossland, Garden, Consumers, Whitby GO, Victoria, Gordon, and turn around at Ontario Shores

Route 407 - Ritson

No longer provides service to Oshawa Centre Terminal

All trips end at Colonel Sam Drive turnaround 

Route 411 - South Courtice

Modified route 411 now replaces the Oshawa Centre half of route 407, as well as the former route 406.

This modified route will operate Monday-Saturday only with service hours matching those on the 902B

OnDemand will continue to be available when the 411 is not running.

Oshawa Centre, Gibb, Park, Tresane, Cubert, Bloor, Ritson, Wentworth, Farewell, Bloor, Grandview, Townline, Gord Vinson, Meadowglade, Glenabbey, Sandringham, Trulls, Avondale, Sandringham, Courtice Road, George Reynolds, Nash, Trulls, the route will then interline with route 902B,

PULSE 901 - Simcoe 

901B Trips from North Campus to the OC will now be introduced on Evenings and Weekends, providing a convenient link from the OC to DC at all times

Route 905 - Thickson/Reach

route 905A trips will no longer service Britannia West of Simcoe and Windfields Farm Drive, 

instead, the route will now replace former 417 service to Harmony Terminal after passing Durham College, the new routing will be following Simcoe, Britannia, Ritson, Conlin, Grandview, Coldstream, Harmony Terminal, Taunton, Grandview

Route 420 - Britannia West

No details on exact routing we’re provided, seems to be the exact former routing which would begin at Durham College, and use Simcoe, Conlin, Bridle, Britannia, Windfields Farm, and Simcoe before returning to DC North Campus.

This route will most likely interline with new route 920 at Simcoe and Founders… who needs the DC bus loop anyways?

Route 920 - Unknown name 

This is the biggest change in my opinion

DRT finally connects to the subway network at McCowan RT Station

Major destinations on this route include McCowan Station, Centennial College, Pickering Town Centre, Ajax Amazon Warehouse, Durham Regional Headquarters, and Durham College North Campus,

the routing will be McCowan RT Station, Progress Avenue, Centennial College, Progress, Sheppard, Kingston, Salem, Rossland, Thickson, Dryden, Garrard, Taunton and Simcoe before ending at North Campus.

this route will operate 7 days per week at every half hour, weekends it mentions the route only operates to Amazon, but doesn’t say where from, presumably Scarborough, Pickering and Ajax as that would be the more ridership heavy half of the line.

this also provides a nice link for people in Pickering and Central Ajax a quick means of getting to DC.

lastly, Overnight service,

DRT is launching 24 Hour transit service on route 900, and 901.

On the 900 routing will be modified as buses will not enter Centennial Circle, this is to provide a connection to the TTC Blue Night Network at Morningside and Ellesmere. In the East the route end at Simcoe Street

Overnight on the 901, the C branch will operate between North Campus and King, presumably the 901 and 900 will interline overnight,  both service will operate every 30 minutes.

overnight OnDemand service will also be launched in Urban areas to provide 24 hour transit service to much of the population, OnDemand overnight service will primarily be offered to connect people to the PULSE corridors and GO Stations

 

And that’s it! September look promising and it’s nice to see some old routes, or parts of them at least, beginning to return, such as the 417 for example becoming part of the 905A service.

Here is the link to the presentation

https://calendar.durham.ca/default/Detail/2021-06-02-1330-Transit-Executive-Committee-Meeting/13a766e0-19e2-41a4-821b-ad36009bc436

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On 5/29/2021 at 10:10 AM, 110B West Pickering said:

DRT finally connects to the subway network at McCowan RT Station

the routing will be McCowan RT Station, Progress Avenue, Centennial College, Progress, Sheppard, Kingston, Salem, Rossland, Thickson, Dryden, Garrard, Taunton and Simcoe before ending at North Campus.

this route will operate 7 days per week at every half hour, weekends it mentions the route only operates to Amazon, but doesn’t say where from, presumably Scarborough, Pickering and Ajax as that would be the more ridership heavy half of the line.

lastly, Overnight service,

DRT is launching 24 Hour transit service on route 900, and 901.

On the 900 routing will be modified as buses will not enter Centennial Circle, this is to provide a connection to the TTC Blue Night Network at Morningside and Ellesmere. In the East the route end at Simcoe Street

Here is the link to the presentation

https://calendar.durham.ca/default/Detail/2021-06-02-1330-Transit-Executive-Committee-Meeting/13a766e0-19e2-41a4-821b-ad36009bc436

 A few questions..

1. Why don't Durham buses entering Scarborough take the 401 for the majority of the routing. For example 401 direct to Markham or McCowan Rd, instead of taking local roads?
2. Will there be a Durham bus connection to the Amazon facility at Morningside and Steeles?
3. Will the DRT 900 loop around military trail like the TTC 905 does?

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On 6/9/2021 at 11:55 PM, MRD10 said:

 A few questions..

1. Why don't Durham buses entering Scarborough take the 401 for the majority of the routing. For example 401 direct to Markham or McCowan Rd, instead of taking local roads?
2. Will there be a Durham bus connection to the Amazon facility at Morningside and Steeles?
3. Will the DRT 900 loop around military trail like the TTC 905 does?

1) Not sure if Durham Region Transit buses would be able to cruise along the 401 at highway speeds owning to the number of passengers on board.
2) Unclear if that will ever happen.
3) Currently, DRT Pulse route 900 has been using the Centennial Circle loop (from my own experience when taking that route a while back in February 2020). There was a time in which DRT Pulse 900 terminates directly at the UTSC (University of Toronto (at) Scarborough Campus) when the bus route was launched back in late June-2013. However it's final terminating point nowadays is Centennial Circle (since January 2019).

If one of my colleagues could correct my statements, that'll be ultra helpful.

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14 hours ago, FutureHeartsJunkie said:

3) Currently, DRT Pulse route 900 has been using the Centennial Circle loop (from my own experience when taking that route a while back in February 2020). There was a time in which DRT Pulse 900 terminates directly at the UTSC (University of Toronto (at) Scarborough Campus) when the bus route was launched back in late June-2013. However it's final terminating point nowadays is Centennial Circle (since January 2019).

Pulse 900 used to terminate directly at UTSC bus loop until late fall 2016 when UTSC began construction on Highland Hall requiring the removal of the TTC stops on the north-west side of the bus loop.  At the time, the NW side housed TTC 38 westbound alone, TTC 198 & 95B/95E together, and a layover stop for TTC buses.  The SW side was home to GO 51 York alone, GO 51 Pickering alone, and Pulse 900 alone.

When half the loop closed, TTC routes were moved to the SW side, and GO 51 in both directions shared one stop, and there was barely any space for layover, but drivers still did it causing major delays for buses arriving and departing (among other headaches for the TTC specifically - see pictures).  The Pulse 900 instead looped around Military Trail and serviced the south west corner of Ellesmere & Military.

Mid 2018, DRT realized they could better serve Centennial College by changing their route to terminate and loop at Centennial/UTSC EV building loop, but this announcement wasn’t made official for many months.  A platform for the Pulse 900 was put together at the south east corner of Ellesmere & Military.

The UTSC loop reopened fully in January 2019, but no additional stops were added.  There’s one TTC stop pole for the 95/995 & 905 on the NW side, and one for the 38 on the SW side.  There is also one stop for both GO 41 (formerly 51) buses.  There’s nothing in place of where the Pulse 900 used to service.  TTC 12D does not service any loops.  Things also may have changed since the introduction of TTC 905A.

Fun fact: that collision between that hoist & 1722 is why 1722 retired.

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On 6/9/2021 at 11:55 PM, MRD10 said:

 A few questions..

1. Why don't Durham buses entering Scarborough take the 401 for the majority of the routing. For example 401 direct to Markham or McCowan Rd, instead of taking local roads?
2. Will there be a Durham bus connection to the Amazon facility at Morningside and Steeles?
3. Will the DRT 900 loop around military trail like the TTC 905 does?
 

I think there is a larger plan to get BRT in some form on Ellesmere Road to STC, which would give DRT and TTC buses significant priority.  

I do like the idea of an express service provided by DRT from Centennial College Progress Campus to Oshawa Centre via Highway 401 to Port Union. I believe that this service would give Durham Residents a quick and cheaper option, and we can use MiWay as an example which has multiple routes that use Highway 427. 

I would support this option with the use of Suburban buses which offer a little more seating capacity without the rear door and comfort while travelling on a highway. Ideally, id like to see the 920 on its current route via Sheppard, but then offer the limited express service connecting Centennial college at key times. This bus can easily slip on to the 401 with the on ramp to Eastbound 401 right there on Progress Avenue. We'll see how passengers respond to the new routes coming, and maybe we can get some support for DRT buses using highways 401, 407 and 412 in the future.

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1 hour ago, 2044 said:

I like the idea of taking the 401 as a Pulse branch much the same way Züm does in Brampton.

Just to Port Union or even Whites, any further east and buses would be caught up in significant traffic delays, unless authority is given to use the shoulder, like on Highway 403.

 

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13 minutes ago, 409 Thornton said:

Just to Port Union or even Whites, any further east and buses would be caught up in significant traffic delays, unless authority is given to use the shoulder, like on Highway 403.

 

Yes I agree. That stretch is pretty good even in rush hour. Port Union would be good since it would still connect with the 85 and in the TTC is looking at routing the 95 past there.

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On 6/12/2021 at 12:50 PM, TTC7447 said:

Pulse 900 used to terminate directly at UTSC bus loop until late fall 2016 when UTSC began construction on Highland Hall requiring the removal of the TTC stops on the north-west side of the bus loop.  At the time, the NW side housed TTC 38 westbound alone, TTC 198 & 95B/95E together, and a layover stop for TTC buses.  The SW side was home to GO 51 York alone, GO 51 Pickering alone, and Pulse 900 alone.

When half the loop closed, TTC routes were moved to the SW side, and GO 51 in both directions shared one stop, and there was barely any space for layover, but drivers still did it causing major delays for buses arriving and departing (among other headaches for the TTC specifically - see pictures).  The Pulse 900 instead looped around Military Trail and serviced the south west corner of Ellesmere & Military.

Mid 2018, DRT realized they could better serve Centennial College by changing their route to terminate and loop at Centennial/UTSC EV building loop, but this announcement wasn’t made official for many months.  A platform for the Pulse 900 was put together at the south east corner of Ellesmere & Military.

The UTSC loop reopened fully in January 2019, but no additional stops were added.  There’s one TTC stop pole for the 95/995 & 905 on the NW side, and one for the 38 on the SW side.  There is also one stop for both GO 41 (formerly 51) buses.  There’s nothing in place of where the Pulse 900 used to service.  TTC 12D does not service any loops.  Things also may have changed since the introduction of TTC 905A.

Fun fact: that collision between that hoist & 1722 is why 1722 retired.

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Is the bus going to travel along process to get to McCowan? Doesn't that duplicate the TTC service that is already in place?

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Decided to do some foaming of the first day of the 917 to the Zoo. I think it’s a great addition and I’m looking forward to trying it one day. Right now it’s every 1 to 2 hours on weekends and holidays only, but I hope this becomes a regular route in the near future.

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