blue.bird.fan Posted September 12 Report Share Posted September 12 22 hours ago, TransitFan88 said: Does DRT use the same stop announcement system as the TTC? No, the TTC uses Clever Devices while DRT uses Init (the same system as YRT). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Shaun Posted September 13 Report Share Posted September 13 Was that series used because of the commonality of parts and maintenance? Or does it still get returned to a TTC garage at night? The DRT driver was trained and qualified to operate the vehicle I presume but how does the insurance work? The TTC is self insured, what happens if the bus is damaged while on loan? I'm surprised that they didn't lease out OG Orion VII's from Queensway but given the dead head time and potential break downs a newer bus makes more sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megabus Rider Posted September 13 Report Share Posted September 13 8 minutes ago, Shaun said: The TTC is self insured, what happens if the bus is damaged while on loan? The Region would also be self insured. You'd have to get a copy of the Lease agreement between the TTC and The Region to see who is responsible for what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted September 13 Report Share Posted September 13 8 hours ago, Megabus Rider said: The Region would also be self insured. You'd have to get a copy of the Lease agreement between the TTC and The Region to see who is responsible for what. Who's garage does it go back to at night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Posted September 13 Report Share Posted September 13 13 minutes ago, Shaun said: Who's garage does it go back to at night? Westney, DRT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTC_1203 Posted September 13 Report Share Posted September 13 I feel somewhat disappointed by the minimal effort they put into adapting these TTC units for DRT service. Forget the blue lights or stop announcements - I appreciate the stickers, but they should’ve programmed the destos to say something other than ”Not in Service”, at the very least. Thanks @ilovettc for the video! Ps. Customers may want to beware… from the video, the Presto units appear to be ”TTC” active. Those especially exiting/standing by the rear door may want to be conscious of how close their wallet/purse comes to the reader. You’ll know if you hear the beep. I was excited to see these buses. Seeing the batch parked at Westney was enough… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Posted September 13 Report Share Posted September 13 36 minutes ago, TTC_1203 said: I feel somewhat disappointed by the minimal effort they put into adapting these TTC units for DRT service. Forget the blue lights or stop announcements - I appreciate the stickers, but they should’ve programmed the destos to say something other than ”Not in Service”, at the very least. Thanks @ilovettc for the video! Ps. Customers may want to beware… from the video, the Presto units appear to be ”TTC” active. Those especially exiting/standing by the rear door may want to be conscious of how close their wallet/purse comes to the reader. You’ll know if you hear the beep. I was excited to see these buses. Seeing the batch parked at Westney was enough… They are temp loaners. Not worth the time to flip all the files 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulated Posted September 13 Report Share Posted September 13 43 minutes ago, TTC_1203 said: I feel somewhat disappointed by the minimal effort they put into adapting these TTC units for DRT service. Forget the blue lights or stop announcements - I appreciate the stickers, but they should’ve programmed the destos to say something other than ”Not in Service”, at the very least. Thanks @ilovettc for the video! Ps. Customers may want to beware… from the video, the Presto units appear to be ”TTC” active. Those especially exiting/standing by the rear door may want to be conscious of how close their wallet/purse comes to the reader. You’ll know if you hear the beep. I was excited to see these buses. Seeing the batch parked at Westney was enough… 6 minutes ago, Ultimate said: They are temp loaners. Not worth the time to flip all the files The signs could (and should) have been reprogrammed. There was an attempt to do so, but failed for technical reasons. Otherwise, yes the retrofits necessary would be too much to ask for buses that are only temporary loaners (previously noted as 30-60 days). Stuff like fully repainting/wrapping, new fareboxes, retrofitting the parking brake, swapping the Clever Devices equipment out and installing new Init signs and consoles... by the time you're done retrofitting all the buses, the lease period has already expired. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted September 14 Report Share Posted September 14 16 hours ago, Articulated said: The signs could (and should) have been reprogrammed. There was an attempt to do so, but failed for technical reasons. Otherwise, yes the retrofits necessary would be too much to ask for buses that are only temporary loaners (previously noted as 30-60 days). Stuff like fully repainting/wrapping, new fareboxes, retrofitting the parking brake, swapping the Clever Devices equipment out and installing new Init signs and consoles... by the time you're done retrofitting all the buses, the lease period has already expired. How are they getting new buses in 60 days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Posted September 14 Report Share Posted September 14 1 hour ago, Shaun said: How are they getting new buses in 60 days? Multiple buses already on order. Plus looking into permanent options Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pccstreetcar4549 Posted September 14 Report Share Posted September 14 On 9/12/2023 at 10:30 PM, Shaun said: Was that series used because of the commonality of parts and maintenance? Or does it still get returned to a TTC garage at night? The DRT driver was trained and qualified to operate the vehicle I presume but how does the insurance work? The TTC is self insured, what happens if the bus is damaged while on loan? I'm surprised that they didn't lease out OG Orion VII's from Queensway but given the dead head time and potential break downs a newer bus makes more sense. Drt is largely Nova based these days, drivers and mechanics know them, that’s probably why… plus they needed reliable buses FAST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Posted September 16 Report Share Posted September 16 Drivers have been ordered to use special for the time being. Drove one earlier this afternoon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A Posted Wednesday at 12:42 AM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 12:42 AM 8659 is back at Eglinton garage. Seems the TTC lease is up. Could explain why I have only seen three in service yesterday and four at the yard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Bullock Posted Wednesday at 02:04 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 02:04 PM 13 hours ago, G.A said: 8659 is back at Eglinton garage. Seems the TTC lease is up. Could explain why I have only seen three in service yesterday and four at the yard. Those four in the yard were probably not required for service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Posted Wednesday at 02:39 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 02:39 PM Multiple TTC units in service today. Also as of last night a co-worker imformed me they have “1” sad attempt of programming DRT signs into the unit. Its currently out today running in Pickering. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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