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Two electric buses will be purchased. No info on what model it will be yet currently.

https://barrie.ctvnews.ca/city-of-barrie-goes-green-with-two-new-electric-transit-buses-1.6168937

34 minutes ago, Orion VI said:

Ex. BT 2002 NFI D40LF 66302 (former ghost bus) has been listed for auction on GovDeals.

https://www.govdeals.com/index.cfm?fa=Main.Item&itemid=405&acctid=9198

2002 New Flyer Transit Bus

I didn't think they would remove 66302 completely. Especially when it doesn't operate and is towed to the events. Hopefully it will find a second life somewhere. 

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Haven't updated in a while. Attaching the slide deck which includes the revamp of new route types broken down below:

  • Express Transit Network
  • Frequent Transit Network 
  • Local Transit Network
  • Transit On Demand 

Looking at the proposed route map, Route 100C/100D would simply be converted to Route 101 and 102. Though, I think there is a bigger shift to transit-on-demand just to be cost-neutral and better balance available resources while meeting traveller demand.

Final comments:

I still remember the major route overhaul in 2013. Especially when it was pretty confusing along with service ending earlier when it was first introduced. Then changing it to address the issues a year later.

Though I personally prefer the downtown system where most routes went downtown and you could connect with departures at the top of the hour, :15, :30 and :45. At the same time, that concept was no longer working especially with the south end routes (31 Essa/41 Allandale, 30 Yonge and 34 Ardagh) were taking a lot more than the 60 minutes of running time allocated during the daytime. The maximum travel time would take around 45 to 60 minutes depending on final destination. 

Presentation Barrie Transit's New Vision.pdf

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Some documents of the proposed route changes. Starting sometime in 2024 with Route 2, 7 and 8 retaining current routing while the other routes will be changed. Attaching the document of route changes that is planned. 

Full implementation by 2025 depending on progress and plans. 

Not all documents are attached, only the more useful and informative ones are referenced in these attachments.  

Final comments:

Not going to lie, the plan is to reduce the demand for conventional buses and instead shifting to BACTS buses for transit on demand. Instead of those waiting for a bus every x minutes, it will instead be for some areas with transit on demand to plan a start and end trip along with factoring an expected wait time. Which may not help for those that are used to taking y trip connecting to an intercity train or bus. 

Reading regarding how frequent transit routes have the flexibility of adding more frequency beyond 15 minutes is nice to service a higher corridor area such as the college. Revamping the routes every 10 or so years. Last major overhaul was August 2013 before having to introduce temporary fixes until more reliable routes were implemented in July 2014. With some fixes and changes over the last few years.

Though I will give credit for building a frequent service network of every 15 minutes or better via Route 100 series. Route 10 and 11 North Loop along with Highway 400 Express being ramped up to every 20 minutes frequency if demand warrants in the plans. 

Appendix A - Network Maps.pdf Appendix D - Route Changes.pdf Report - Barrie Transit's New Network.pdf

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Late arrivals, Barrie usually gets their buses in the early part of the year (the 2022s entered service in February).

How many units are on order for this year? And are they expansion (what expansion...) or replacement units for the 2011 Xcelsiors, now that they're hitting 12 years in age?

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On 6/13/2023 at 10:02 PM, GTAmissions1 said:

Some documents of the proposed route changes. Starting sometime in 2024 with Route 2, 7 and 8 retaining current routing while the other routes will be changed. Attaching the document of route changes that is planned. 

Full implementation by 2025 depending on progress and plans. 

Not all documents are attached, only the more useful and informative ones are referenced in these attachments.  

Final comments:

Not going to lie, the plan is to reduce the demand for conventional buses and instead shifting to BACTS buses for transit on demand. Instead of those waiting for a bus every x minutes, it will instead be for some areas with transit on demand to plan a start and end trip along with factoring an expected wait time. Which may not help for those that are used to taking y trip connecting to an intercity train or bus. 

Reading regarding how frequent transit routes have the flexibility of adding more frequency beyond 15 minutes is nice to service a higher corridor area such as the college. Revamping the routes every 10 or so years. Last major overhaul was August 2013 before having to introduce temporary fixes until more reliable routes were implemented in July 2014. With some fixes and changes over the last few years.

Though I will give credit for building a frequent service network of every 15 minutes or better via Route 100 series. Route 10 and 11 North Loop along with Highway 400 Express being ramped up to every 20 minutes frequency if demand warrants in the plans. 

Appendix A - Network Maps.pdf 4.52 MB · 15 downloads Appendix D - Route Changes.pdf 159.82 kB · 14 downloads Report - Barrie Transit's New Network.pdf 3.15 MB · 14 downloads

Apparently the new proposed network has been approved for implementation in 2025.  With the larger focus in On-Demand service, has there been any chatter as to whether Barrie will purchase "micro transit" vehicles dedicated to serve the On-Demand zones?

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Some housekeeping items (February 2024)

Hotspot handling digital transit fares to rollout on February 26th (memo attached). Marketing strategy planned. 

Georgian College U-Pass set to expire in August 2024 has been extended for another year (August 2025) in-order to prepare for another referendum vote for a longer term. 

Both items, I have attached the relevant memos for recordkeeping/reference.

Detour for Allandale Waterfront Station (February 12th)

  • All buses will remain on-street until the new terminal is built
  • Route 1, 4 and 8 will southbound will service where the 1B current stop is
  • Intercity bus services (Go Transit, Ontario Northland, Linx) will be at a separate stop
  • Route 1, 4, 8 and Go Transit northbound will service a stop south of Essa/Gowan
  • Route 7 to service nearby temporary stops 

At the time of writing, the detour map is missing the 7B temporary stop which is most likely supposed to be Essa/Tiffin. Will update once it is corrected. 

Link here: https://assets.barrie.ca/assets/MyRide/Allandale.PDF

Ontario Northland isn't included in the detour maps because it is only one trip at 5:50 AM towards Toronto. It only impacts for ticketed passengers who have a starting or end destination for Allandale Waterfront. 

EDIT: Corrected detour map now provided. 7A Grove stops before making the left turn onto Bradford. 7B Bear Creek will stop at Bradford/Tiffin before turning onto Tiffin. 

Memo - Barrie Transit - UPass Extension.pdf Memo - Transit Mobile Fare Application Launch.pdf

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