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One of the new 2020 NovaBus LFS, just arrived Monday! Not sure how many we are getting this time around, right now we have 2, 2001/2002 with rumour that we're getting 4 more but I can't be sure! Got a

Cimon8000 I got to drive this bus today for training. Drives very very nice!! Very smooth and pretty quick pick up. Taken in the garage before we left for the day. 

Just got back from the Barrie Fair shuttle with a couple friends. 1703 was our bus. Unlike the 2012 and 2013 routes where the bus took Essa Road to 20th Sideroad, this year because of the closure at A

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11 hours ago, MCI102A3 said:

There's at least one other 2018 Arboc on the road now, 1831.

I saw it but couldn't get pics as I was in a car.

 

1 hour ago, CaptainTransit_4488 said:

There's only 2. 1830 and 1831 both gas powered. 

Gas powered.. Spirit of Freedom 27 foot unlike the Spirit of Mobility 26 foot diesel.

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Summary of the 4 Schedule

4A end to end = 51 Minutes

4B end to end = 54 minutes

total time: 65 Minutes (same as it is now) 

then stick on 3 minutes of "extra time" at each end

how a route takes longer going one direction than the other is beyond me, really is 

but on the plus side theres no more 8 minute layovers at the mall on route 4 before leaving (never understood that either)

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So figure I'd give some updates.

For 2019, Nova 1703 is this year's Christmas bus.

Also, Route 90 is ending service on December 31st, 2019, which is New Year's Eve. The last 90B trip is the 3:30 trip while the last 90A trip is the 6:00 trip. I'm planning to be on it before I go to Downtown Countdown.

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Yesterday was the last day of route 90 operating out to Angus and CFB Borden. The final buses were 1301 (90B) and 67004 (90A).

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Also took the opportunity to ride the new Red/Blue "Express" routes, which is new since my previous visit last New Year's Eve. Overall while ridership seemed pretty decent (lots of turnover at stops between the College and Downtown via Bayside Mall), I wouldn't call it an Express route. It only serves every second or third stop, winds through a lot of residential areas, and actually takes longer to get between Downtown and Georgian College (Express is scheduled 21-26 minutes; both 6 and 7 take a more direct route and make it in 15 minutes or less). The schedule is confusing with each bus being an A/B/C/D making different routings, and running on uneven headways.

 

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56 minutes ago, Articulated said:

Yesterday was the last day of route 90 operating out to Angus and CFB Borden. The final buses were 1301 (90B) and 67004 (90A).

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Also took the opportunity to ride the new Red/Blue "Express" routes, which is new since my previous visit last New Year's Eve. Overall while ridership seemed pretty decent (lots of turnover at stops between the College and Downtown via Bayside Mall), I wouldn't call it an Express route. It only serves every second or third stop, winds through a lot of residential areas, and actually takes longer to get between Downtown and Georgian College (Express is scheduled 21-26 minutes; both 6 and 7 take a more direct route and make it in 15 minutes or less). The schedule is confusing with each bus being an A/B/C/D making different routings, and running on uneven headways.

Nice to see you captured the final 90A and 90B departures. 

The 100A/100B run 7 days/week including holidays when buses run. 100C and 100D run only on weekdays to make the headway 22.5 minutes and only serves 2 stops before reconnecting for the rest of the loop. Challenge is that the 100A and 100B cover the previous 3 routing (downtown to college via Nelson), 100C and 100D retain what was from the original 100 along with Route 7 (loops directly into the college back onto Duckworth via Grove versus Bell Farm onto Duckworth).

Most of the routing is the same. Difference is 100A/100B is using Grove Street, Nelson, Penetang, Mulcaster onto regular route (services 8 stops) covering the old 3 route versus 100C/100D using Blake then Collier onto regular route only serving two stops (Blake/Johnston for No Frills and 17 Blake Street) being the original 100 route.

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The most interesting thing is they took three buses off other routes (3, 4 and 5) to reallocate for the new Route 100 Red/Blue. If you think the Route 100 schedule is confusing, I would avoid the Route 4 completely. Noting that you have either a 15 minute wait or 65 minutes in the daytime. Someone once asked me "when is the next 4 coming?"

Me: Try 50 minutes. You are better off taking a different route if needing to head downtown. 

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6 hours ago, danmackay said:

if you think route 4's schedule is bad, have you looked at route 1's evening/sunday schedule, you either get a 30 minute gap or an hour gap 

I have seen the evening/Sunday schedule for Route 1 with the 30 minute, then one hour gap. Especially since they previously ran every 45 minutes with two buses.

Instead, there are two buses running in the same direction and have a few minutes of layover. Better to have a live map handy.

In other news, 69207 is rumoured to be removed from service. Still awaiting confirmation. Despite how it went through minor refurbishment (new panels). It isn't the same scale like the 2004 D40LFs that were refurbished full-scale. 

69307 and 69508 are still in-service and most likely be traded off once the three replacement buses come. 

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20 hours ago, MCI102A3 said:

I got a shot of Arboc 2021 while waiting for a bus on Sunday. Apparently two 2020 Novas are on the way for April, while apparently 69207 and 69508 are for sale now.

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I forgot they changed the body style again.

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Today, I was on a Nova and D40LF and they had the seats near the operator taped off. Nova bus, it is the seat behind the operator. This is along with taping off the area right where the accessibility seating is. Which passengers are to be behind the taped line, not the yellow line. 

Here is a photo from a D40LF taken today.

On top, 100C and 100D were not running today. Most likely to coincide with the college being closed until further notice. Especially a state of emergency announced today.

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Now official. Rear door boarding ONLY/EXIT until April 6th (tentative depending on the situation). Those with accessibility issues can still use the front.

Effective March 20th (8B-SB at 4:20 AM will be the first trip of the day). The buses have been pretty empty along with reductions along some routes. Will be interesting how they reimburse monthly pass holders for March along with people looking to buy April passes. That info is still to be confirmed. 

 

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