Orion V Posted September 18, 2006 Report Share Posted September 18, 2006 Btw, I still have some comment for that, even though this bus fitting Allison B400R transmission, it's faster than the previous C40LF, but I think if Translink choose 6-speed version of B400R transmission, it would be more fuel efficency instead the current 5-speed~~ Faster than the C40LFs with C Gas+ or S50G? C Gas+ should be faster anyhow. Explain how 6 speed is more efficient than 5 speed please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cathay 888 Posted September 18, 2006 Report Share Posted September 18, 2006 Faster than the C40LFs with C Gas+ or S50G? C Gas+ should be faster anyhow. They're faster on hills for those C40LFR, becoz' the previous C40LF is fitting Voith transmission, most of the driver think they're tranny~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enviro 500 Posted September 18, 2006 Report Share Posted September 18, 2006 They're faster on hills for those C40LFR, becoz' the previous C40LF is fitting Voith transmission, most of the driver think they're tranny~~ Voith + S50 is definitely not the choice for hill-climbing, I can use nothing but one word to describe the situation that it's going to be like - "pathetic". C+ gas combine with Voith is not a bad combo for hill-climbing though..........the transmission tends to "push" the gear so high before it changes, therefore, you get the engine to work to its extreme at its 2nd gear..........it's powerful, but it's really loud. Back on C40LFRs............sounds like P3319, P3327 and P3328 are out! Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion V Posted September 19, 2006 Report Share Posted September 19, 2006 Voith + S50 is definitely not the choice for hill-climbing, I can use nothing but one word to describe the situation that it's going to be like - "pathetic". C+ gas combine with Voith is not a bad combo for hill-climbing though..........the transmission tends to "push" the gear so high before it changes, therefore, you get the engine to work to its extreme at its 2nd gear..........it's powerful, but it's really loud. Back on C40LFRs............sounds like P3319, P3327 and P3328 are out! Dave You guys should have D864 as the tranny on those buses, GTA's are fast with those. Is it possible for C40LFRs to get D864? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cathay 888 Posted September 19, 2006 Report Share Posted September 19, 2006 You guys should have D864 as the tranny on those buses, GTA's are fast with those. Is it possible for C40LFRs to get D864? I have the same opinion too, but the problem is- do the drivers and machanics like D864?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enviro 500 Posted September 19, 2006 Report Share Posted September 19, 2006 I have the same opinion too, but the problem is- do the drivers and machanics like D864?? Opinions from drivers and mechanics are never counted anyway PS: I love those D40LFs with Voith D864 + ISL in GTA too............sweet buses to ride! Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCW Metrobus Posted September 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 Opinions from drivers and mechanics are never counted anyway PS: I love those D40LFs with Voith D864 + ISL in GTA too............sweet buses to ride! Dave I liked them too, but somehow I don't think I would want to ride them on a daily basis. Quite frankly I had enough Voith in Mississauga to last me for quite a while and I'm perfectly happy with the S50/B400R fest we have here. Anyways, barring any unforeseen complications I should be getting out to Coquitlam on Friday afternoon so I can finally see a C40LFR in person, take photos and perhaps ride one. Expect to see some shots if that happens! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
general682002 Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 You guys should have D864 as the tranny on those buses, GTA's are fast with those. Is it possible for C40LFRs to get D864? Yes, most manufacture have recommended to have D864 since 2002. The more gears you get, the faster and better torque builds up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion V Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 Yes, most manufacture have recommended to have D864 since 2002. The more gears you get, the faster and better torque builds up. Your statement just reminded me of a long forgotten question that I always forget to ask. Why are the YRT 02 Vs faster than the 03 Vs when the 02s have 3 speed while 03s have 5 speeds? Are all Voiths faster than Allison regardless? Because if you do another comparison: TTC RTS with 3 speed VS TTC 96 V diesel with 5 speed, the Vs clearly go faster than the RTS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. Wong Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 RTS might be heavier than the V. Our 2-speed Fishbowls are super slow in acceleration compared to some of the 3-speed ones. This might be totally wrong, but doesn't the number of gears increase fuel economy or something? At a higher gear, the engine speed is lower than at a lower gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
general682002 Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 RTS might be heavier than the V. Our 2-speed Fishbowls are super slow in acceleration compared to some of the 3-speed ones. This might be totally wrong, but doesn't the number of gears increase fuel economy or something? At a higher gear, the engine speed is lower than at a lower gear. Yes, RPM drops once you go for a much higher gear. The thing is, it also depends on the engine on how much power adapt with the transmission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Posted September 24, 2006 Report Share Posted September 24, 2006 After my recent visit to Van City I noticed most of the CNG test buses and I think the other Flyer bues with roof mounted equipment had a yellow mini step ladder at the rear of the coach. This same yellow piece of equipment is located on the new C40LFR's as well. Anybody know what this is for? I have never seen this on any other transit property which uses CNG's, Hybrid buses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
323 Surrey Ctrl Stn Posted September 24, 2006 Report Share Posted September 24, 2006 After my recent visit to Van City I noticed most of the CNG test buses and I think the other Flyer bues with roof mounted equipment had a yellow mini step ladder at the rear of the coach. This same yellow piece of equipment is located on the new C40LFR's as well. Anybody know what this is for? I have never seen this on any other transit property which uses CNG's, Hybrid buses. I heard that this is for the mechanics to safely check the CNG tanks every so often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCW Metrobus Posted September 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2006 After my recent visit to Van City I noticed most of the CNG test buses and I think the other Flyer bues with roof mounted equipment had a yellow mini step ladder at the rear of the coach. This same yellow piece of equipment is located on the new C40LFR's as well. Anybody know what this is for? I have never seen this on any other transit property which uses CNG's, Hybrid buses. Here's what Derek Cheung has to say on the matter: They are yellow steps to the top of the CNG tanks. This doesn't quite explain why they don't appear on CNG vehicles operated by other agencies though. Perhaps it's just an additional safety feature, not absolutely necessary, but a nice thing to have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
general682002 Posted September 24, 2006 Report Share Posted September 24, 2006 This doesn't quite explain why they don't appear on CNG vehicles operated by other agencies though. Perhaps it's just an additional safety feature, not absolutely necessary, but a nice thing to have. Mechanics have to check and inspect the tanks from time to time to make sure they are good. The roof is not flat, so chances are anyone will slip and fall. But, I belive they have black strips for some gripping which I looked at the HSR C40LF at my college on 2nd floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Posted September 24, 2006 Report Share Posted September 24, 2006 Mechanics have to check and inspect the tanks from time to time to make sure they are good. The roof is not flat, so chances are anyone will slip and fall. But, I belive they have black strips for some gripping which I looked at the HSR C40LF at my college on 2nd floor. Thanks everyone and general. I see the question was put forward in the Transit Vancouver section when I checked my e-mail today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion VIII Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 I bet 99% of those were MT's Orion VIs. And 99% of those were on the 61! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untitled Transit Posted September 15 Report Share Posted September 15 17 years after another generation of CPTDB users were speculating where our C40LFRs went missing after a fault was discovered, shortly after delivery. Now a new generation of CPTDB users are talking about the retirement of the first C40LFR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Express691 Posted September 15 Report Share Posted September 15 2 hours ago, Untitled Transit said: 17 years after another generation of CPTDB users were speculating where our C40LFRs went missing after a fault was discovered, shortly after delivery, a new generation of CPTDB users are here to talk about the retirement of the first C40LFR. Leave the old threads in the dust, bud use the LFR retirement thread instead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untitled Transit Posted September 16 Report Share Posted September 16 21 hours ago, Express691 said: Leave the old threads in the dust, bud use the LFR retirement thread instead Tant pis, bud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane Posted September 16 Report Share Posted September 16 What's replacing these coaches if they're going out of service now? Or this am anticipated one-of, so far? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untitled Transit Posted September 16 Report Share Posted September 16 1 hour ago, Dane said: What's replacing these coaches if they're going out of service now? Or this am anticipated one-of, so far? Probably the buses that never came. Let's keep the conversation in the retirement thread, so that Mr. Polizei doesn't start punching air. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9924 Posted September 22 Report Share Posted September 22 On 9/15/2023 at 12:28 AM, Express691 said: Leave the old threads in the dust, bud use the LFR retirement thread instead Geezus. Do people need to start PMing you to get your blessing as to what and where one can post? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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