Board Admin A. Wong Posted December 6, 2010 Board Admin Report Share Posted December 6, 2010 Oh, maybe they already had electronic ones. I was just assuming they didn't have them, like many other Alberta transit systems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
general682002 Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 Oh, maybe they already had electronic ones. I was just assuming they didn't have them, like many other Alberta transit systems. My guess is Wood Buffalo wants a better electronic farebox. Do the have GFI farebox right now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCT-3122-D800-10240 Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 My guess is Wood Buffalo wants a better electronic farebox. Do the have GFI farebox right now? It looks like they do have GFI fare boxes. In this image I got of their one and only NovaBUS, you can see the fare box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
general682002 Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 It looks like they do have GFI fare boxes. In this image I got of their one and only NovaBUS, you can see the fare box. It's impossible to tell unless someone has the farebox shot, but seing carefully it's not GFI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCT-3122-D800-10240 Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 It's impossible to tell unless someone has the farebox shot, but seing carefully it's not GFI. Yep. I meant to say that it looks like they already have electronic fare boxes. Sorry about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCT-3122-D800-10240 Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 It seems as though Fort McMurray Transit MCI Classic #'s 1998, 1999 are now retired. They are now in Calgary as per the following post in the Southland Transportation thread: http://www.cptdb.ca/index.php?s=&showt...st&p=466311 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mersar Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 Was just browsing through APC, and noticed that Wood Buffalo has put out a tender for 8 new 40' buses for this year, with option to renew the contract for up to 2 additional one year terms. All have to be low floor, minimum 41 seated passenger, with bicycle racks, in solid white color. They specified the buses are to use Luminator Horizon signs and will have a full PA system for the driver to communicate with passengers, including an exterior mounted speaker, and 3 cameras mounted inside the bus. Delivery by December 1011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCT-3122-D800-10240 Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 Was just browsing through APC, and noticed that Wood Buffalo has put out a tender for 8 new 40' buses for this year, with option to renew the contract for up to 2 additional one year terms. All have to be low floor, minimum 41 seated passenger, with bicycle racks, in solid white color. They specified the buses are to use Luminator Horizon signs and will have a full PA system for the driver to communicate with passengers, including an exterior mounted speaker, and 3 cameras mounted inside the bus. Delivery by December 1011 Hmm.. I don't believe the 40 foot LFR can have up to 41 seats. Xcelsiors possibly? I don't remember the maximum seating in Orion VII or Nova LFS 40 footers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seashore_518203 Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 Was just browsing through APC, and noticed that Wood Buffalo has put out a tender for 8 new 40' buses for this year, with option to renew the contract for up to 2 additional one year terms. All have to be low floor, minimum 41 seated passenger, with bicycle racks, in solid white color. They specified the buses are to use Luminator Horizon signs and will have a full PA system for the driver to communicate with passengers, including an exterior mounted speaker, and 3 cameras mounted inside the bus. Delivery by December 1011 Interesting news ... I would imagine that the 8 are to replace the remaining Classics. According to a fleet list that I obtained via CUTA for Wood Buffalo, only 8 Classics remain, 1945-46 (ex-Utah) and 3522-27 (ex-Santa Monica). I am not sure about 1945 because when I was up there in 2009, it sure did not look active as parts were starting to be cannabilized off of it. It is still listed on their active roster though which is confusing to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undertheradar Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Interesting news ... I would imagine that the 8 are to replace the remaining Classics. According to a fleet list that I obtained via CUTA for Wood Buffalo, only 8 Classics remain, 1945-46 (ex-Utah) and 3522-27 (ex-Santa Monica). I am not sure about 1945 because when I was up there in 2009, it sure did not look active as parts were starting to be cannabilized off of it. It is still listed on their active roster though which is confusing to say the least. actually we have 10 new. 8 bought by city 2 by diversified. Xelciers. Pure Garbage. Noisy to drive and poor heating. I prefer driving the MCI's. numbers of new buses are 1965-75 last years were the better buses but flyers in general are garbage for Fort Mc Murrray. Retired buses this year are 3522( a california buss just bought last year) thing never ran..actually for the most part none of them run.1928,1927,1990,1989. and theis one 1953 is down but not out. Oh ya 1945 is no more either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seashore_518203 Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Retired buses this year are 3522( a california buss just bought last year) thing never ran..actually for the most part none of them run.1928,1927,1990,1989.and theis one 1953 is down but not out. Actually, bus 3522 was bought at the end of 2008 and entered service in 2009. Attached is a shot that I took of it in June 2009. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undertheradar Posted March 23, 2011 Report Share Posted March 23, 2011 Actually, bus 3522 was bought at the end of 2008 and entered service in 2009. Attached is a shot that I took of it in June 2009. you're right. they were purchased by Diversified in nov 2008 but never saw the streets till 2009 due to us having to put on daytime running lights and fixing the heat in them as they were never turned on in california. Either way it didnt last that long. Thinking 3525 will be next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mersar Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 The list of bidders was posted for the 8 new buses on APC, it came down to Nova, Daimler and NFI (in order of most expensive to least expensive). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airwolf Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 Here are a few shots I took via cell phone while I was in Ft. McMurray on Friday. Anyone know what these new buses are in terms of model? Suffice to say they are a New Flyer product but I've never seen them before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 The ones with the small A/C units are New Flyer D40LFR and the other one are D40LF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Board Admin A. Wong Posted May 4, 2011 Board Admin Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 Interesting, those HVAC units look smaller than usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevlo86 Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 Here are a few shots I took via cell phone while I was in Ft. McMurray on Friday. Anyone know what these new buses are in terms of model? Suffice to say they are a New Flyer product but I've never seen them before. The newer buses are still New Flyer D40LFR units. The reason why the headlight setup looks different is that some transit agencies do not like how the bike rack can interfere with the headlight/turn signal setup on a traditional LFR setup. So New Flyer has modified the headlight/turn signal setup in order to accommodate the bike rack interference issue. Some transit agencies simply choose to get different bike racks that are off set, some transit agencies ignore the minor interference and some get the modification. Here is another example, from Whistler, BC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
general682002 Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 Interesting, those HVAC units look smaller than usual. Indeed looks small, but they are just heater only! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airwolf Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 Interesting, those HVAC units look smaller than usual. Not only do they look smaller but they are also in a different location than the usual D40LF or D40LFR. That was why I had to ask about model of coach for those ones. I still find it wierd to see a D40LF with out and HVAC or something like that on the roof like those older D40LF's. Part of me thought they might have tried to bring back a coach that Community Transit in Metro Seattle uses but not many others use. I can't remember what that model is at the moment but I'm sure it will come to me soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Board Admin A. Wong Posted May 4, 2011 Board Admin Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 Yeah, in 2010 they started using a different Thermo King unit, and it is offset much closer to the front. Not sure if this is due to the EPA2010 regulations and having some other equipment in that area. Example from Red Deer Transit of a 2010 D40LFR with a "regular" sized unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
general682002 Posted May 7, 2011 Report Share Posted May 7, 2011 Not only do they look smaller but they are also in a different location than the usual D40LF or D40LFR. That was why I had to ask about model of coach for those ones. I still find it wierd to see a D40LF with out and HVAC or something like that on the roof like those older D40LF's. Part of me thought they might have tried to bring back a coach that Community Transit in Metro Seattle uses but not many others use. I can't remember what that model is at the moment but I'm sure it will come to me soon. It would be the 1995 model, but later in couple of years on the D40LF with rear window must have a rooftop heater due to equipment that needs to have proper function during cold winter. Otherwise, order a rear heater equipment when w/o rear window. The problem is that, the heater is very weak during cold winter. I remember I had a chat with one of the Thunder Bay staff, he remembers driving it when it was new, after 8 hours on cold winter, he was nearly and along with the rest have nearly frozed to death! The same goes to passengers. In 2002, after only 7 years old, it had to be rebuild with Wabaso and install the rooftop heater shortly, not all of them. Yeah, in 2010 they started using a different Thermo King unit, and it is offset much closer to the front. Not sure if this is due to the EPA2010 regulations and having some other equipment in that area.Example from Red Deer Transit of a 2010 D40LFR with a "regular" sized unit. It has to do with the EPA 2010, and this is a new HVAC due to both EPA and easier for mechanics for easier access. This is new standard! As mention, the Fort McMurry D40LFR 2010 are just heater only. Interesting to see what is like, and FFT doesn't need HVAC, summer is gotta be cool up there. Would like to see what's like on the Xcelsior with hear rooftop only if anyone orders it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cimon8000 Posted May 14, 2011 Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 you're right. they were purchased by Diversified in nov 2008 but never saw the streets till 2009 due to us having to put on daytime running lights and fixing the heat in them as they were never turned on in california. Either way it didnt last that long. Thinking 3525 will be next. Just wondering how many Classics are still active in Fort McMurray as of May and what are their numbers? thank you~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undertheradar Posted May 15, 2011 Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 Just wondering how many Classics are still active in Fort McMurray as of May and what are their numbers? thank you~~ well, when I go into the barn I see nothing that resembles a classic but I assure you there are a few that should have been retired. There is just no need for them. I.e 1946,1945,1928 or any of the 3500 series excluding 3522 which was retired if I'm not mistaken. I can check for exact models if u like but as of now only 7 buses are not dl flyers. And it would have been nice if they gave us an ac unit in the new buses to justify the horrible noise they make. but no, it's just heat and very poor heat too. I refuse to drive the new buses. I'll take the 09 flyers anyday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cimon8000 Posted May 15, 2011 Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 Â Â well, when I go into the barn I see nothing that resembles a classic but I assure you there are a few that should have been retired. There is just no need for them. I.e 1946,1945,1928 or any of the 3500 series excluding 3522 which was retired if I'm not mistaken. I can check for exact models if u like but as of now only 7 buses are not dl flyers. And it would have been nice if they gave us an ac unit in the new buses to justify the horrible noise they make. but no, it's just heat and very poor heat too. I refuse to drive the new buses. I'll take the 09 flyers anyday. So u mean 7 classics still left in the fleet? I am looking for the 3500 series ex Santa Monica's ones, all retired but one still active? Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc.theriault Posted June 18, 2011 Report Share Posted June 18, 2011 So u mean 7 classics still left in the fleet? I am looking for the 3500 series ex Utah ones, all retired but one still active? Thank you I was doing an oilsands shuttle in town yesterday and spotted 4 Classics outside of Father Mercredi H.S. around 3pm. Couldn't get the number for the first one but the rest were: 3522, 3525 & 3526. June 21 revision: Met 3527 on the road today with a mechanic behind the wheel. JC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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