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https://www.citywindsor.ca/cityhall/City-Council-Meetings/Documents/Standing Committees/2023/November 29, 2023 ETPS Public Agenda with item numbers and page numbers - Accessible.pdf?fbclid=IwAR36arasOa_Lch3LBfg6XmKB0_wlND39FgZWc8Bi8GITxl_zd6ruiJVWtuU

Scroll down to the bottom, item 9.2      this all needs to be approved by city council.  I noticed that some of the local route numbers changed, and they havent decided yet on any route names apparently for the new routes. 

I believe the changes to the 1C, 2, 4, the new local routes etc is happening in early 2024, while IF the rest of this stuff gets approved, will be some other time in 2024. Also included would be 3 expansion buses, all hybrids, as a result of the last round of improvements using the current fleet.  This would explain the previous article that mentioned 3 buses on order, which still needs to be confirmed.

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a tender just went out called engineering consulting services for transit terminals. its about design, planning, consulting, contract administration and construction observation related to the new east end transit terminal located in the east end of the city, and expansion of the west end terminal on prince road.

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Just a random bus tracker spotting for today lol.  As of 9:21AM here is what is on the routes. Normally there is a few more buses on some of the routes like the 418X which normally has 3 buses on it, 1A usually has 3 buses on it etc. Afternoon has a lot more buses on the routes.  Ive seen as many as 15 buses on each of of the 1C and the 2 when the passenger loads get really heavy. Also normally there's a 2-3 pairs of buses that travel together to the same time points along the whole route on the 1C just to handle the loads. the 42 and 605 only have one bus on them as they only do 3 runs a day to Leamington/Amherstburg.

1A - 8042, 8052.

1C - 626, 8022, 8055, 8044, 8007, 8061, 8045, 8040, 8053, 8014, 601, 8049, 8003.

2 - 8020, 8037, 8054, 8041, 621, 8051, 8059, 8050.

3 - 8018, 8008, 575, 638.

4 - 8064, 8027, 630, 637, 8033, 8002, 8063.

5 - 604, 634, 8056, 8032.

6 - 8028, 8038.

7 - 8065, 574, 627, 8016

8 - 8057, 8034.

10 - 8030, 8031.

14 - 620, 8026.

25 - 8023, 8024.

42 - No scheduled runs till later

418 - 8068.

518 - 8004, 8046.

605 - No scheduled runs till later

Tunnel Bus - 636.

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From the recommended budget.

New Service: Route 250 (Rhodes/Twin Oaks/NextStar Industrial)

Transit Windsor is proposing the introduction of a new Secondary route (Rt. 250) to service growing industrial areas south of E.C. Row Expressway. The route would operate from 07:00-23:00, Monday to Friday on either a 30-minute or a 60-minute frequency. The route would provide two-way service, and would interchange at Devonshire Mall, the Transit Centre, and Tecumseh Mall, while providing service to the major employment areas adjacent to the E.C. Row Expressway from Howard to Banwell.
Recommendation: Recommended
One-Time Funding: $313,670 (BSR Funding)

With the announcement and construction of the NextStar battery plant, as well as continued development of the Twin Oaks and Rhodes Industrial areas, there is a demand from business owners and Transit Windsor riders for transit service to bring workers to these employment areas. Transit Windsor is proposing the introduction of a new Secondary route (Rt. 250) to service these growing industrial areas. The route would operate from 07:00-23:00, Monday to Friday on either a 30-minute or 60-minute frequency. The route would provide two-way service, and would link Devonshire Mall, the Transit Centre, and Tecumseh Mall, while providing service to the major employment areas adjacent to the E.C. Row Expressway from Howard to Banwell. Originally, this area was designated in the Transit Master Plan as an On-Demand service zone, but given the high employment levels expected at the NextStar plant (and not anticipated at the time the Transit Master Plan was developed), the implementation would be better served by a traditional fixed-route model.

There is existing intermittent service to the Rhodes industrial area via Route 3. That portion of the route would be incorporated into the new Route 250, providing all-day, two way service to this area, provide a resumption of service to the Twin Oaks area (discontinued in 2022 due to the permanent E.C. Row Ave. closure), as well as new service to the NextStar battery plant.

There are 2 options to execute this plan:

OPTION 1 (60-minute frequency): The annual gross operating costs (including salaries plus fringes and other operating costs) related to this Option are projected at $448,100. This includes the costs to hire 3 bus operators. After factoring in the projected revenue increase due to ridership of 30%, the net annual costs are projected at $313,670.

This would result in a budget levy increase of $313,670. The option represents an increase 5,865 additional annual service hours. This budget issue also requires purchase of one diesel-electric hybrid bus (TRN-) estimated at $1.3M and new bus stops signs estimated at $23,100(TRN-). Because this is a new service area, Transit Windsor does not have capacity within the existing fleet to accommodate the increased service demands. Transit Windsor has accommodated the past three years’ service increases within the existing fleet complement. At this point, Transit Windsor has exceeded the capacity of its existing fleet, and further service improvements cannot be made without additional buses. The risk of not expanding fleet complement is not being able to deliver the expected results of recent and future service changes. This request is included in the 2024 Capital Budget Plan. Without the approval of these capital dollars, the implementation of this route will be impossible.

OPTION 2 (30-minute frequency):

The annual gross operating costs (including salaries plus fringes and other operating costs) related to this Option are projected at $1,059,100. This includes the costs to hire 7 bus operators. After factoring in the projected revenue increase due to ridership of 30%, the net annual costs are projected at $741,370. This would result in an increase in budget levy increase of $741,370.

The option represents a total of 14,025 additional annual service hours. This budget issue also requires purchase of three diesel-electric hybrid buses estimated at $4M and new bus stops signs estimated at $23,100. Because this is a new service area, Transit Windsor does not have capacity within the existing fleet to accommodate the increased service demands. Transit Windsor has accommodated the past three years’ service increases within the existing fleet complement. At this point, Transit Windsor has exceeded the capacity of its existing fleet, and further service improvements cannot be made without additional buses. The risk of not expanding fleet complement is not being able to deliver the expected results of recent and future service changes. This request is included in the 2024 Capital Budget Plan. Without the approval of these capital dollars, the implementation of this route will be impossible.

The department is recommending OPTION 1 with a budget levy increase of $313,670.

Capital Budget Implication
The recommended changes represent a total of 5,865 additional annual service hours. This budget issue also requires purchase of one diesel-electric hybrid buses (TRN-004-24) estimated at $1.3M and new bus stops signs estimated at $23,100 (TRN-003-24).These requests are included in the 2024 Capital Budget Plan. Without the approval of these capital dollars, the implementation of this route will be impossible.

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15 hours ago, Girardin71 said:

Transit Windsor delays strike date.

Windsor transit strike on hold | CTV News

 

Thats what has happening in Windsor for the Transit News

Still managed to cancel the extended Tunnel Bus service that was planned yesterday for the Lions playoff game, while literally every other transit system across the river extended their services.

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1 hour ago, 140 Southshore said:

Still managed to cancel the extended Tunnel Bus service that was planned yesterday for the Lions playoff game, while literally every other transit system across the river extended their services.

that was unfortunate but the city was worried that customers would be stranded in Detroit.  That cancellation was done on Saturday.

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Hi.  I grew up in Windsor along route 5 (think it was 5B and 5B/C then - don't remember the difference).  Didn't use the bus a lot as a kid, but used it when in my early twenties when I went back home after uni and didn't have a car, so I know a considerable amount about the system.  Have ridden every current route except for the 25, 42, 418, and 605.  Rode the 518 for the first time this past summer when I was back in town for the first time in many, many years - long overdue route!  Haven't yet ridden the new route 3 on the west side, but rode the old one many times.  Route 10's changed so many times, but I've ridden it pretty much on its current routing - even once fully along Wyandotte like this during a detour when the normal route used Riverside.

A comment regarding the current news.  One thing I wish that unions would do is to have planned "ramp down" service when they decide to strike.  Like not setting 12:01 on the dot - abandon bus wherever it is or bring bus back to yard no matter what.  But instead just ramping service down - finish the trip you're on, ensure there are no more scheduled trips (even the special scheduled trips) remaining.  Ensure people in areas like Detroit get home.  That way the company wouldn't have had to even consider cancelling the tunnel buses.

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On 1/15/2024 at 9:49 AM, 140 Southshore said:

Still managed to cancel the extended Tunnel Bus service that was planned yesterday for the Lions playoff game, while literally every other transit system across the river extended their services.

I'm frankly amazed that SMART pulled it off. I know the people who scheduled the extra service and they had trouble finding drivers who were willing to work overtime in the frigid weather.

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