Mar_AC_23 Posted April 7, 2022 Report Share Posted April 7, 2022 (edited) https://ttc-cdn.azureedge.net/-/media/Project/TTC/DevProto/Documents/Home/Public-Meetings/Board/2022/April-14/Reports/10_TTCs_Green_Bus_Program_Final_Results_of_TTCs_Head_to_Head_eBus_Evalua.pdf?rev=38416aa6e8f3466b9e66ffa46adf2626&hash=D22151C0BD927C565CA1A5866F4E5E4A The TTC has awarded New Flyer with contracts for 134 40ft hybrid electric buses and 68 60ft hybrid electric articulated buses to be delivered by the end of 2023. See page 4 of the report. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bus Deliveries: Vivid Yellow = Not Delivered; Strong Blue = Delivered; Green = Entered Service 2023 New Flyer XDE40: Delivered (134/134) Entered Service (118/134) Not Delivered (0/134) 7200-7204, 7205, 7206-7209, 7210, 7211-7255, 7256, 7257-7315, 7316-7318, 7319-7323, 7324-7333 2023 New Flyer XDE60: Delivered (64/68) Entered Service (12/68) Not Delivered (4/68) 9400, 9401-9402, 9403, 9404, 9405-9406, 9407-9408, 9409, 9410, 9411, 9412, 9413-9422, 9423, 9424, 9425, 9426-9428, 9429, 9430-9433, 9434, 9435-9445, 9446-9447, 9448-9465, 9466-9467 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Allocations: McNicoll Division: 9400-9402, 9404, 9408, 9410-9412, 9429, 9434, 9446 Mount Dennis Division: 7200-7333, 9403, 9405-9407, 9409, 9413-9428, 9430-9433, 9435-9445, 9447-9467 Edited April 10 by Mar_AC_23 9411 has moved to McNicoll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnalogPentium Posted April 7, 2022 Report Share Posted April 7, 2022 3 hours ago, Shemar said: https://ttc-cdn.azureedge.net/-/media/Project/TTC/DevProto/Documents/Home/Public-Meetings/Board/2022/April-14/Reports/10_TTCs_Green_Bus_Program_Final_Results_of_TTCs_Head_to_Head_eBus_Evalua.pdf?rev=38416aa6e8f3466b9e66ffa46adf2626&hash=D22151C0BD927C565CA1A5866F4E5E4A The TTC has awarded New Flyer with contracts for 134 40ft hybrid electric buses and 68 60ft hybrid electric articulated buses to be delivered by the end of 2023. See page 4 of the report. Interesting that they chose New Flyer over Novas for most of the hybrid order. I wonder if that means they solved their qualm about not being supplied a master parts list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Posted April 7, 2022 Report Share Posted April 7, 2022 These XDE40s should look identical to the XE40s if I’m not mistaken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion V Posted April 7, 2022 Report Share Posted April 7, 2022 Just a wild guess is that they might have framed windows but will retain the BRT roofline. Look at the 3400s for example. The 60 electric buses all have frameless windows. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Posted April 7, 2022 Report Share Posted April 7, 2022 Just now, Orion V said: Just a wild guess is that they might have framed windows but will retain the BRT roofline. Look at the 3400s for example. The 60 electric buses all have frameless windows. Now the XDE60s will probably look sleek cause it’s something new for the ttc considering we only have Nova artics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion V Posted April 8, 2022 Report Share Posted April 8, 2022 49 minutes ago, Young said: Now the XDE60s will probably look sleek cause it’s something new for the ttc considering we only have Nova artics Closest reference in Ontario is this. Based on looks only since HSR's are CNGs. https://cptdb.ca/wiki/index.php/Hamilton_Street_Railway_1820-1830 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TransitFan88 Posted April 8, 2022 Report Share Posted April 8, 2022 I wonder what divisions will be getting the Flyers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Posted April 8, 2022 Report Share Posted April 8, 2022 10 minutes ago, TransitFan88 said: I wonder what divisions will be getting the Flyers. I have a feeling it’s gonna be Mt.Dennis 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cherry_1560 Posted April 8, 2022 Report Share Posted April 8, 2022 I wonder if TTC will still use unpainted aluminum wheels on new hybrid-electric buses or use red wheels again 2 hours ago, Orion V said: Just a wild guess is that they might have framed windows but will retain the BRT roofline. Look at the 3400s for example. The 60 electric buses all have frameless windows. TTC has used frameless windows on 60 electric buses, so probably it will be a basic configuration on the future buses ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bus_7246 Posted April 8, 2022 Report Share Posted April 8, 2022 2 hours ago, Young said: These XDE40s should look identical to the XE40s if I’m not mistaken The only difference will be the location of the HVAC unit. I presume that they will get with the current standard of a roof mounted HVAC to the rear mounted style of the XE40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curlingteam333 Posted April 8, 2022 Report Share Posted April 8, 2022 I wonder what the seat layout would be looks like for TTC XDE60 and New Flyer articulated buses looks brand new to TTC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bus_Medic Posted April 8, 2022 Report Share Posted April 8, 2022 21 hours ago, bus_7246 said: The only difference will be the location of the HVAC unit. I presume that they will get with the current standard of a roof mounted HVAC to the rear mounted style of the XE40 The electric flyer actually has both. one unit for passenger comfort, the rear mounted one is for battery thermal management. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 Weird question but does delivery by 2023 mean between now and the end of 2023 or q4 of 2023 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTio Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 6 hours ago, curlingteam333 said: I wonder what the seat layout would be looks like for TTC XDE60 and New Flyer articulated buses looks brand new to TTC. Hopefully it’s the 4one Aries seating MiWay and some other agencies have, those are pretty comfy imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 26 minutes ago, PrimeTio said: Hopefully it’s the 4one Aries seating MiWay and some other agencies have, those are pretty comfy imo It’ll probably be the same seats as the Nova hybrids and the XE40s the TTC has 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mar_AC_23 Posted April 9, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 18 hours ago, Young said: Weird question but does delivery by 2023 mean between now and the end of 2023 or q4 of 2023 Correct. End of 2023 would be the end of Q4 2023. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted April 28, 2022 Report Share Posted April 28, 2022 On 4/7/2022 at 8:19 PM, Orion V said: Closest reference in Ontario is this. Based on looks only since HSR's are CNGs. https://cptdb.ca/wiki/index.php/Hamilton_Street_Railway_1820-1830 Those are in terrible shape, everything is loose and rattling the bus apart. It might be the way HSR maintains them. I haven't ridden Mississauga's version so I can't comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lip Posted April 28, 2022 Report Share Posted April 28, 2022 2 hours ago, Shaun said: Those are in terrible shape, everything is loose and rattling the bus apart. It might be the way HSR maintains them. I haven't ridden Mississauga's version so I can't comment. Hamilton's roads are rougher compared to Toronto, so by default buses will rattle more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MK78 Posted April 29, 2022 Report Share Posted April 29, 2022 22 hours ago, lip said: Hamilton's roads are rougher compared to Toronto, so by default buses will rattle more. The TTC Orions VII's were/are rattle machines, but the Nova LFS have held up remarkably well when it comes to that. But it may have to do with the suspension, its much more comfortable on the Nova LFS. I haven't ridden anything else to compare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommike Posted April 29, 2022 Report Share Posted April 29, 2022 do any one know if xde60 will be rear drive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTio Posted April 29, 2022 Report Share Posted April 29, 2022 12 hours ago, tommike said: do any one know if xde60 will be rear drive?del Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genius101 Posted April 29, 2022 Report Share Posted April 29, 2022 Any chance that Queensway division gets some? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechnicaProductions Posted April 29, 2022 Report Share Posted April 29, 2022 1 hour ago, tommike said: do any one know if xde60 will be rear drive? All XDE60s are rear drive, what are you on about? 56 minutes ago, Genius101 said: Any chance that Queensway division gets some? No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mar_AC_23 Posted April 29, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2022 3 hours ago, Genius101 said: Any chance that Queensway division gets some? Yes, let's just give Queensway buses that will have their roofs destroyed trying to squeeze themselves into that garage. Smh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTio Posted April 29, 2022 Report Share Posted April 29, 2022 Did TTC release a report where we can see the specs on the buses? I know MiWay and some other American agencies have done it, also is their a possibility the XDE60s will have rear windows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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