map.man (Darrin) Posted June 4, 2019 Report Share Posted June 4, 2019 Just now, I Alam said: While that’s true it’s a massive service cut, from the existing 204. I wouldn't say it's entirely massive. The 24X and 24L will take place of the present service, although the 24L will take a longer period to get downtown. The schedule also becomes a little more standardized that the 204, with more evenly spaced service, and later service in the evening. If you look at the timing for the buses too, the 24L also shaves only about 7 minutes off the 24AB service and adds another 10-12 minutes from the 204's present times. I can bet that the mid-day trips showed a very poor ridership, and they had to find ways of improving passengers numbers. Instead of delivering no express service, they opted to limit the stops and inconvience for a few extra minutes over requiring a long local trip into Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitsubishi Fuso 6512 Posted June 12, 2019 Report Share Posted June 12, 2019 Niagara Frontier Transportation Authority Had 1993 Orion V CNG buses including 1994 New Flyer D40LF. These photos goes to G. Donnelly of Flickr. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris.A Posted June 12, 2019 Report Share Posted June 12, 2019 17 hours ago, Mitsubishi Fuso 6512 said: Niagara Frontier Transportation Authority Had 1993 Orion V CNG buses including 1994 New Flyer D40LF. These photos goes to G. Donnelly of Flickr. When were those 1993 Orion V CNGs retired and were they ever repowered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitsubishi Fuso 6512 Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 6 hours ago, Chris.A said: When were those 1993 Orion V CNGs retired and were they ever repowered? Nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris.A Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Mitsubishi Fuso 6512 said: Nope Ok, but when were they retired? 2005-2006? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quartzquiz Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 They were pretty much gone by 2001. Can't tell you the exact date but they were retired very prematurely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitsubishi Fuso 6512 Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 5 hours ago, Quartzquiz said: They were pretty much gone by 2001. Can't tell you the exact date but they were retired very prematurely. What about 1991 Orion V Diesel for Niagara Frontier Transportation Authority 5 hours ago, Quartzquiz said: They were pretty much gone by 2001. Can't tell you the exact date but they were retired very prematurely. Did you look at Wikipedia for fleet roster https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFTA_fleet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edison Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 On 6/12/2019 at 5:30 PM, Chris.A said: When were those 1993 Orion V CNGs retired and were they ever repowered? I was told that one guy bought them all, and the plan was to convert them to diesel because they were such a headache as CNG's. Whether or not that happened, I have no idea. Anybody notice the past week that the destination sign fonts have changed? Seems like the wording is thinner. Saw the 4B Downtown, and the "Downtown" wasn't centered, it was really close to the 4B. Noticed a lot of buses that had the side sign display on the front, and the rear number on the side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quartzquiz Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 2 hours ago, edison said: Anybody notice the past week that the destination sign fonts have changed? Seems like the wording is thinner. Saw the 4B Downtown, and the "Downtown" wasn't centered, it was really close to the 4B. Noticed a lot of buses that had the side sign display on the front, and the rear number on the side. This I'll have to see. I always thought that the info on the side sign should be on front like most transit agencies in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quartzquiz Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 Okay, having seen a few buses it looks like the displays are now matching the ones for the 1800 buses in style if not design. On the 8 Main it says "8A UNIVERSITY STATION" on the display all at once instead of flipping between two screens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
map.man (Darrin) Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 8 minutes ago, Quartzquiz said: Okay, having seen a few buses it looks like the displays are now matching the ones for the 1800 buses in style if not design. On the 8 Main it says "8A UNIVERSITY STATION" on the display all at once instead of flipping between two screens. Noticed myself, yesterday, and thought it was my eyes. New programming installed, or new hardware? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsbuspage Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 14 hours ago, Mitsubishi Fuso 6512 said: What about 1991 Orion V Diesel for Niagara Frontier Transportation Authority Anyone have pictures of those buses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brobinson Posted June 15, 2019 Report Share Posted June 15, 2019 Hello. I am new to this forum. I ride the NFTA almost everyday to and from school. I find it pretty cool. My favorite buses are the 2017-18 Novabus LFS Diesels (1717-1724 & 1817-1824). I have a lot of pictures if you want to see them just let me know and I'll ask questions if i have any. Glad to be a part of this! 13 hours ago, Quartzquiz said: Okay, having seen a few buses it looks like the displays are now matching the ones for the 1800 buses in style if not design. On the 8 Main it says "8A UNIVERSITY STATION" on the display all at once instead of flipping between two screens. I saw that on a 2010 Gillig today and I thought it was strange. The day before the 11 was changed too. Usually it goes "11D Tonawanda" "Industrial park" but what I saw was "11D Tonawanda" "11D Industrial park". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quartzquiz Posted June 15, 2019 Report Share Posted June 15, 2019 3 hours ago, Brobinson said: Hello. I am new to this forum. I ride the NFTA almost everyday to and from school. I find it pretty cool. My favorite buses are the 2017-18 Novabus LFS Diesels (1717-1724 & 1817-1824). I have a lot of pictures if you want to see them just let me know and I'll ask questions if i have any. Glad to be a part of this! I saw that on a 2010 Gillig today and I thought it was strange. The day before the 11 was changed too. Usually it goes "11D Tonawanda" "Industrial park" but what I saw was "11D Tonawanda" "11D Industrial park". Welcome aboard and enjoy the ride! Coincidentally I rode bus 1006 on the 11 Colvin from downtown late yesterday morning. The display was exactly as you said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brobinson Posted June 15, 2019 Report Share Posted June 15, 2019 I saw a Novabus LFS CNG (didn't see the number) on the 26 heading to Niagara Street. Isn't that a Frontier bus on a Main Michigan route? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quartzquiz Posted June 15, 2019 Report Share Posted June 15, 2019 All buses run out of Frontier on the weekends. It's been that way since 2002. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brobinson Posted June 15, 2019 Report Share Posted June 15, 2019 31 minutes ago, Quartzquiz said: All buses run out of Frontier on the weekends. It's been that way since 2002. So that explains why I only saw CNG Nova's when I was out today. I got some pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edison Posted June 16, 2019 Report Share Posted June 16, 2019 On 6/14/2019 at 11:01 AM, map.man (Darrin) said: Noticed myself, yesterday, and thought it was my eyes. New programming installed, or new hardware? It was part of a update. Signs update periodically in the garage. Fareboxes update when the vaults get pulled. On 6/14/2019 at 1:29 PM, tomsbuspage said: Anyone have pictures of those buses? Unfortunately I only have pictures taken for Auctions International. Minus the 500's. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailBus63 Posted June 16, 2019 Report Share Posted June 16, 2019 19 hours ago, edison said: It was part of a update. Signs update periodically in the garage. Fareboxes update when the vaults get pulled. Unfortunately I only have pictures taken for Auctions International. Minus the 500's. I see from the Orion V photos that a least a few of those buses received the updated paint scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brobinson Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 Well starting tomorrow the 204 will no longer be a thing and the 24L and 24X will begin service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brobinson Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 I just saw something weird on bus 1019 on the 26. Instead of saying "26A Niagara" it said "26 Delavan". Some of these drivers need to check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
map.man (Darrin) Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 Misprogrammed, showing the side route instead. Nothing drivers did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brobinson Posted June 19, 2019 Report Share Posted June 19, 2019 5 hours ago, map.man (Darrin) said: Misprogrammed, showing the side route instead. Nothing drivers did. Ahh I see. Also I'm starting to see changes in some of the CNG Nova's destination signs when going inbound to downtown. It isn't changed on all of them though. I'm also seeing the 1500 series buses missing windshield numbers. Here's some pictures of the changes of the destination signs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brobinson Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 What do you guys think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Alam Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 Does anyone know when NFTA will get their new buses this year? Also are the 2000’s Novas still safe after this delivery? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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