LRT Posted November 18, 2022 Report Share Posted November 18, 2022 The 7700s are garbage! They are extremely underpowered, the turning radius on these things are horrible. They literally rattle my brain and are extremely fatiguing to drive. Heaters suck in the winter and stays on during the summer! Suspension on these things seem to fail more often than any other bus. Some of the early 7800s are in the same boat… The 7900s are my favourite. Lots of power, great heat a nice solid bus… dream to drive. Don’t ask me about the Excelsior’s or the Nova’s… I haven’t had the chance to drive those buses because they are out of a garage that I prefer not to work out of. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Souluxy Posted November 18, 2022 Report Share Posted November 18, 2022 In my opinion, I think they’re ok buses, there are certainly worse ones (7921-7962) and I think the 7700’s might be at least better than those. I do have to agree that the 7800’s and 7900’s are more of my boat. They work more smoothly, and seem to break down less. But probably because the 7700’s are pretty beat. Favourite one 7778 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicinity Posted November 18, 2022 Report Share Posted November 18, 2022 37 minutes ago, Souluxy said: In my opinion, I think they’re ok buses, there are certainly worse ones (7921-7962) and I think the 7700’s might be at least better than those. I do have to agree that the 7800’s and 7900’s are more of my boat. They work more smoothly, and seem to break down less. But probably because the 7700’s are pretty beat. Favourite one 7778 The 7700’s have been run 7 days a week for 17 years of their life, specifically when VP was the 24 hour garage. They have 1.5 times the km’s that their counterparts 7818-7920 have as those units ran primarily Monday to Friday 06:00-19:00 work through their life with some exceptions. 7921-7962 also met the school of hard knocks in terms of usage at VP, however they have received a decent amount of work lately. If the budget goes through as proposed we could see everything from 7818-8015 retired over the next 4 years. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartiallySD Posted November 18, 2022 Report Share Posted November 18, 2022 3 hours ago, JK-from-YYC said: To be fair, from what I’ve heard about and observed on several 01’s, many units haven’t got a lot of power and have acquired a rather unhealthy engine note. I can’t really comment any further than that because I don’t work for CT and don’t have exact stats about their reliability, but I will say the 7600’s did not need their engines rebuilt when they were only 6 years old… Eh, I’ll always be a stickler for old things. In reality, the 78’s and 79’s are indeed actually better buses, but I feel like the 2001’s hold small bits and bobs of (at least to myself) history in them. First non Detroit Diesel buses (although we all know what happened to the ISC’s…), first LED Dest units (although the Axions truly do suck…), and some of the first 3 stripe buses to get the new livery (although most of the decals are still lopsided to this day…) okay, maybe they are misfits… Nowadays, they rattle and rumble, but I’ll still remember being a small kid in the 2000’s waiting for the route 1 and having a beast of a 7700 pull up. Good times. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick B Posted November 18, 2022 Report Share Posted November 18, 2022 26 minutes ago, PartiallySD said: Eh, I’ll always be a stickler for old things. In reality, the 78’s and 79’s are indeed actually better buses, but I feel like the 2001’s hold small bits and bobs of (at least to myself) history in them. First non Detroit Diesel buses (although we all know what happened to the ISC’s…), first LED Dest units (although the Axions truly do suck…), and some of the first 3 stripe buses to get the new livery (although most of the decals are still lopsided to this day…) okay, maybe they are misfits… Nowadays, they rattle and rumble, but I’ll still remember being a small kid in the 2000’s waiting for the route 1 and having a beast of a 7700 pull up. Good times. Agreed. The cosmetic inconsistencies with the refurbs much like the 2003/04 fleet, with some buses having different decals here and there, some mismatched interior features, etc, almost gives each bus a personality of its own kinda like the GM Fishbowl refurbs back in the day. Despite all that though I will have to say the 7700's were never really my favorite buses in Calgary and I won't be particularly sad to see them go. As for the 7900s though, specifically the higher 7900s which I grew up riding more than any other fleet, that'll be the big one for me and will definitely be something I'll want to throw a farewell charter on when the time comes. I feel like they seriously dropped the ball on the 2005-2007 fleets.... IMO they could have easily gotten more than 20 years of life out of them had they followed through with the midlife refurbs on them and who knows if that would have saved some money over going for that massive order of 250+ electric buses. I digress though. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRT Posted November 18, 2022 Report Share Posted November 18, 2022 12 hours ago, vicinity said: The 7700’s have been run 7 days a week for 17 years of their life, specifically when VP was the 24 hour garage. They have 1.5 times the km’s that their counterparts 7818-7920 have as those units ran primarily Monday to Friday 06:00-19:00 work through their life with some exceptions. 7921-7962 also met the school of hard knocks in terms of usage at VP, however they have received a decent amount of work lately. If the budget goes through as proposed we could see everything from 7818-8015 retired over the next 4 years. Agreed! Those buses are definitely worn out but I do remember the 7700s when they’re almost new and they weren’t that great. I would really like to see Calgary Transit purchase electric buses like the ones that Transit is using. They have quite the set up out there to house those e-buses…state of the art garage! But because Calgary is such an oil city it may be a very long time before we see electric buses (with the exception of the electric shuttle buses that are supposed to be coming but I don’t think Transit purchased the buses anyway?), and to my understanding I believe they’re only going to invest in CNG for all future bus purchases (correct me if I’m wrong people) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTrainDude Posted November 19, 2022 Report Share Posted November 19, 2022 CT has actually been pursuing funding through the Canada Infrastructure bank to buy hundreds of electric buses in the coming years - nothing finalized yet, but it was just at Council a few weeks ago. It’s coming. https://globalnews.ca/news/9207162/city-committee-endorses-proposal-to-buy-electric-buses-for-calgary-transit/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoho Posted November 19, 2022 Report Share Posted November 19, 2022 While it's promising, from experience battery electric buses can be variable with their available range. Will be highly dependent on what charging technology Calgary Transit chooses to use. Being that Anderson Garage is predominately rush hour anyway, electric buses could be used for short runs. Control will need to be flexible to do bus swaps for when buses run out of battery if garage recharging is used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green_line_26 Posted November 19, 2022 Report Share Posted November 19, 2022 34 minutes ago, Yoho said: While it's promising, from experience battery electric buses can be variable with their available range. Will be highly dependent on what charging technology Calgary Transit chooses to use. Being that Andrews Garage is predominately rush hour anyway, electric buses could be used for short runs. Control will need to be flexible to do bus swaps for when buses run out of battery if garage recharging is used. Would be cool to see some overhead charging at ctrain stations and major bus terminals 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Souluxy Posted December 13, 2022 Report Share Posted December 13, 2022 Not thrilled by posting this but 7763 has made a return 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Meu Posted December 13, 2022 Report Share Posted December 13, 2022 31 minutes ago, Souluxy said: Not thrilled by posting this but 7763 has made a return Too bad its another lousy unit they dragged out and not one of the better ones... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Souluxy Posted December 13, 2022 Report Share Posted December 13, 2022 10 hours ago, R. Meu said: Too bad its another lousy unit they dragged out and not one of the better ones... And it got changed off already on the 155 this morning… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC_YYC Posted January 8, 2023 Report Share Posted January 8, 2023 7724 & 7797 appear to be getting decommissioned soon, I saw them sitting on the tarmac at Stoney and later saw 7797 being moved into the facility, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transit Apologist Posted January 8, 2023 Report Share Posted January 8, 2023 (edited) Update for the missing-in-action 7700 situation for the new year, keep an eye out for: 7701 - last ran 10/12/2022 7722 - last ran 01/17/2023 7723 - last ran 10/18/2022, changed off 7729 - last ran 11/01/2022 7735 - last ran 12/06/2022, changed off 7737 - last ran 02/07/2023 7743 - last ran 10/05/2022 7747 - last ran 02/28/2023 7749 - last ran 11/22/2022 7759 - last ran 05/12/2022 7761 - last ran 10/19/2022 7764 - last ran 09/26/2022 7769 - last ran 02/14/2023 7778 - last ran 01/26/2022 7782 - last ran 11/22/2022 7787 - last ran 01/27/2023 7791 - last ran 12/12/2022 7792 - last ran 02/15/2023 7793 - last ran 03/02/2023 7795 - last ran 11/14/2022, changed off 7806 - last ran 01/31/2023 Also worth noting that On CT's online fleet roster, no 7700's are listed anymore. Of course that's not definitive, since several 2001's that weren't on the list back in September are still going strong, but it could mean that CT doesn't plan on keeping them around for too much longer. We'll just have to wait and see what happens ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Edited April 14, 2023 by JK-from-YYC 7721/34 back, 7722/47/93 missing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB 1999 Posted January 9, 2023 Report Share Posted January 9, 2023 I'm not sure if this kind of discussion goes here but any word about bus 8064 it caught fire on November 13th 2022. I'm wondering if it will ever go back in service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Flyer Fan 27 Posted January 10, 2023 Report Share Posted January 10, 2023 Hey everyone is there any updates on 7750 I know the bus is at SF sitting there have they started parting it out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wt_enthusiast_photos Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 7742 has returned. Last out was on July 11th 2022 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB 1999 Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 Bus 7779 was about to go back in service today but got changed off at the garage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRT Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 1 hour ago, DB 1999 said: Bus 7779 was about to go back in service today but got changed off at the garage. That bus was stone cold dead from the get go and as soon it was up and running it had all sorts of issues coming up 1 by 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB 1999 Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 12 minutes ago, LRT said: That bus was stone cold dead from the get go and as soon it was up and running it had all sorts of issues coming up 1 by 1 Oh you were the one driving it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC_YYC Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 7705's cad kicked on at Spring Gardens around 10 AM this morning even though 7705 has been scrapped since July 2021. I wonder what bus now holds 7705's cad unit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRT Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 17 hours ago, DB 1999 said: Oh you were the one driving it? No. It wouldn’t move lol. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB 1999 Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 4 hours ago, LRT said: No. It wouldn’t move lol. Now it's safe to say that bus 7779 went back in service today. It changed off bus 7938 today 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB 1999 Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 6 hours ago, BC_YYC said: 7705's cad kicked on at Spring Gardens around 10 AM this morning even though 7705 has been scrapped since July 2021. I wonder what bus now holds 7705's cad unit Probably another bus that got its original cad replaced. Because I don't know if it has anything to do with what my first sentence says but when Stoney Transit Facility first opened in spring of 2019 one of the new compressed natural gas bus had a retired bus number 1726.s cad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wt_enthusiast_photos Posted March 27, 2023 Report Share Posted March 27, 2023 7721 returned after being MIA since November 31th 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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