TTC Orion VII Retirement Tracker

[bus_7246]

1 hour ago, Novabus photographer said:

Honest question, are the covid vaccine 7900 buses returning to service?

They maybe rolling stock, but I wouldn’t officially know for sure. 7958 passed by Mt Dennis after dropping off 7937 a few days ago

[BusFanForever]

1093 has been retired.

[Toro]

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[Kumiko Oumae]

If you guys haven’t followed Sault Ste. Marie lately, buses #7907/#161 & #7939/#163 are now withdrawn. Only #7911/#162 is still active.

[BusFanForever]

1120 has been retired.

[Kumiko Oumae]

Hey @Bus_Medic @FabianColeyLOVESBUSES, can anyone tell me the fate of #1220, #1255, #1288, #1318, #1352, #1576? I think they’re likely being decommissioned despite being tracked dead on the same spots.

[Bus_Medic]

3 minutes ago, Kumiko Oumae said:

Hey @Bus_Medic @FabianColeyLOVESBUSES, can anyone tell me the fate of #1220, #1255, #1288, #1318, #1352, #1576? I think they’re likely being decommissioned despite being tracked dead on the same spots.

1288 has a rear axle spindle that pulled out. Most logical fix is a complete axle swap with another decommissioned unit, they’re on the fence about investing the labour.

I’ve  been off since the end of august burning off my vacation now that a pending surgery date has been set. My modified duties assignment during my rehab likely won’t be anywhere near Malvern, so I’m not able to update for several months to come.

The others I really don’t know but the usual culprit is a fried traction motor or generator.

No less than six traction motor cores were prepped for shipping to Harvey for rewinding my last day there however, so they may be turned around in the next month or so.

[Toro]

I don't know of this is the right place for this but does anyone have a picture of a ng hev traction motor? I'm curious as to how it looks

[Bus_Medic]

6 hours ago, Toro said:

I don't know of this is the right place for this but does anyone have a picture of a ng hev traction motor? I'm curious as to how it looks

 

I thought I had a picture of one removed from the bus, I guess not. End cover is removed in this one. They’re normally hermetically sealed, oil cooled.

Both the 1000s and the NG orions use the same traction motor, and are completely interchangeable.

[BusFanForever]

1050, 1288 and 1352 have been retired.

[Kumiko Oumae]

On 5/27/2022 at 10:02 AM, Bus_Medic said:

1342 busted a rear shock mount, so it was punted to the deadline behind 1044. The amount of work that would take to fix, it’s definitely retired.

#1342 is tracking and is back online.

[Bus_Medic]

1 hour ago, Kumiko Oumae said:

#1342 is tracking and is back online.

I’m aware.

I was still working up until late august, y’know.

[Toro]

does anyone know whay these mean? I see them and other similar phrases on retired buses. 

[Bus_Medic]

27 minutes ago, Toro said:

does anyone know whay these mean? I see them and other similar phrases on retired buses. 

Top: veam (brand name of heavy duty electrical connector) are physically  disconnected on the roof.

Translation: the battery tub has been electrically isolated  from the rest of the bus, rendering all high voltage components downstream safe for removal or decommissioning.

One task on a checklist of about 25 things that must be done before a bus is released for scrap disposal.

 

Bottom: Propulsion control system (PCS- the 2nd box on the roof at the rear) has been removed, either for repair or re use elsewhere, and the high Voltage side of the bus must not (and frankly can’t be anyway) energized. Actually, the vehicle data loop runs through there, so the multiplex won’t work, and nothing will run.

Usually with decommissioned buses, there’s a shopping list of major parts to pull off to be cannibalized, PCS, ACTG (alternating current traction generator) and/or ACTM (alternating current traction motor), depending on what failed in the first place to bring about it’s retirement. The tape notes just save the next shift a few minutes time knowing what’s already been completed at a glance.

[Toro]

12 hours ago, Bus_Medic said:

Top: veam (brand name of heavy duty electrical connector) are physically  disconnected on the roof.

Translation: the battery tub has been electrically isolated  from the rest of the bus, rendering all high voltage components downstream safe for removal or decommissioning.

One task on a checklist of about 25 things that must be done before a bus is released for scrap disposal.

 

Bottom: Propulsion control system (PCS- the 2nd box on the roof at the rear) has been removed, either for repair or re use elsewhere, and the high Voltage side of the bus must not (and frankly can’t be anyway) energized. Actually, the vehicle data loop runs through there, so the multiplex won’t work, and nothing will run.

Usually with decommissioned buses, there’s a shopping list of major parts to pull off to be cannibalized, PCS, ACTG (alternating current traction generator) and/or ACTM (alternating current traction motor), depending on what failed in the first place to bring about it’s retirement. The tape notes just save the next shift a few minutes time knowing what’s already been completed at a glance.

Ah understood. Decommissioning seems more complicated then pulling off parts and decals lol

[Toro]

1288 retired 

[8006]

Does anyone have any updates on 1202? It’s been sitting around at Mount Dennis for nearly a month now. It’s either getting new plates, waiting for MTO inspection, waiting for a part or possibly retired. The traction motor sounded pretty awful the last time I heard it.

[GZ6113PHEV5]

On 9/13/2022 at 5:51 AM, Bus_Medic said:

 

I thought I had a picture of one removed from the bus, I guess not. End cover is removed in this one. They’re normally hermetically sealed, oil cooled.

Both the 1000s and the NG orions use the same traction motor, and are completely interchangeable.

I am curious about the life span for these parts，how often do they change them？

[Bus_Medic]

1 hour ago, GZ6113PHEV5 said:

I am curious about the life span for these parts，how often do they change them？

Really varies greatly, but I’d say four to five years is average.

[Toro]

Rumour has it that 1120 was involved in a major accident and retired, is this true?

[BusFanForever]

On 9/29/2022 at 6:32 PM, Toro said:

Rumour has it that 1120 was involved in a major accident and retired, is this true?

It's not a rumour. I posted a few weeks ago that 1120 was retired. You must have read the post since you reacted to it. Why ask again?

[Toro]

18 hours ago, BusFanForever said:

It's not a rumour. I posted a few weeks ago that 1120 was retired. You must have read the post since you reacted to it. Why ask again?

Yes I know it's retired. I was simply wondering if the collision information was true or not as you never mentioned it. If it's true then what exactly happened?

[BusFanForever]

9 hours ago, Toro said:

Yes I know it's retired. I was simply wondering if the collision information was true or not as you never mentioned it. If it's true then what exactly happened?

1120 was in a collision and the damage was deemed too expensive to fix. As for what happened, we are not told the details of collision investigations so I can't answer that part of your question.

[Toro]

7 hours ago, BusFanForever said:

1120 was in a collision and the damage was deemed too expensive to fix. As for what happened, we are not told the details of collision investigations so I can't answer that part of your question.

Dam, I was hoping none of the 10/11s would retire from fires or collisions, there goes that

[Xtrazsteve]

4 hours ago, Toro said:

Dam, I was hoping none of the 10/11s would retire from fires or collisions, there goes that

Given how badly people drive in the GTA, collision happens all the time. As the fleet ages closer to retirement, they will be deem not worth the repair cost. So it's bound to happen to all batches.