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2 hours ago, FabianColeyLOVESBUSES said:

1752 is on the 939 right now I guess its not fully retired yet.

I think @Bus_Medic meant that the buses will be retired soon. 1752 and a good chunk of the training buses are still active, but they will eventually be retired.

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Those fit for service will keep going until their respective MTO stickers expire..... or management decides the create a make work project of decommissioning them.

With all the new 3400s and the warranty coverage that comes with new purchases, shop workload is pretty light at the moment.

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16 hours ago, FabianColeyLOVESBUSES said:

I just got information that 7575 is not being preserved. The bus was towed to hillcrest last week for decommissioning and was not worth the money to preserve.

Where is the info coming from?

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41 minutes ago, Bus_Medic said:

Those fit for service will keep going until their respective MTO stickers expire..... or management decides the create a make work project of decommissioning them.

With all the new 3400s and the warranty coverage that comes with new purchases, shop workload is pretty light at the moment.

Can we expect the TTS to amass an Orion 7 headlight collection that will rival the CLRV headlight collection?

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1 hour ago, Wayside Observer said:

Can we expect the TTS to amass an Orion 7 headlight collection that will rival the CLRV headlight collection?

God, I hope not. 🤦‍♂️

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18 minutes ago, Bus_Medic said:

God, I hope not. 🤦‍♂️

I meant TTC, not TTS, although the TTS amassing a pile of scrap headlights isn't out of the realm of possibility either.

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On 8/7/2019 at 6:18 PM, FabianColeyLOVESBUSES said:

I just got information that 7575 is not being preserved. The bus was towed to hillcrest last week for decommissioning and was not worth the money to preserve.

If this is true, it has been a real great treat to have one of these buses survive this long. Life happens, all I can hope for is a miracle so I still have a slither of hope. She served Toronto well. I think we can all agree (well, most of us) that we enjoyed riding 7575.

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On 8/7/2019 at 8:42 AM, Bus_Medic said:

Here’s the list of units marked for death...a great many are gone already, as you all have noticed:

1572     1622 

1636     1640

1641     1672

1643     1645

1664     1686

1687     1750

1752     1756

1759     1760

1761     1763

1766     1768

1769     1771

1772     1774

1775     1778

1779     1781

1782     1791

1792     1793

1794     1795

1799     1802

1703     1804

1807     1808

1810     1813

1717     1818

1824     1825

1827     1829

I find it odd how they're retiring all of the 17xx-18xx at obico with TRUMP while a few of the 15xx-16xx with TRUMP are still going to stay.

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2 hours ago, 7749 said:

I find it odd how they're retiring all of the 17xx-18xx at obico with TRUMP while a few of the 15xx-16xx with TRUMP are still going to stay.

It’s pretty arbitrary, but there are some internal hardware and software differences in the 12-16xx “G7” PCS equipped units ( the lead acid conversions) vs. The 17-18xx “G9”( the lithium ion from day 1), with the earlier units being somewhat more reliable, at least comparing their respective PCS failure rates.  This was also largely the rationale for overhauling the 12/13/14s and skipping the later builds.

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31 minutes ago, Bus_Medic said:

It’s pretty arbitrary, but there are some internal hardware and software differences in the 12-16xx “G7” PCS equipped units ( the lead acid conversions) vs. The 17-18xx “G9”( the lithium ion from day 1), with the earlier units being somewhat more reliable, at least comparing their respective PCS failure rates.  This was also largely the rationale for overhauling the 12/13/14s and skipping the later builds.

Seems like planned obsolescence. 

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13 hours ago, Doggosareamazing said:

Seems like planned obsolescence. 

Except it’s the older models that came out on top. Put your tinfoil hat away.

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57 minutes ago, Bus_Medic said:

Except it’s the older models that came out on top. Put your tinfoil hat away.

Excuse me woman, I don’t wear tin foil hats. I wear spaghetti colanders! They seem to be making the new buses replaceable rather than repairable. 

(On Topic: Langille photos to come)

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That’s the trend in the entire automotive industry. This link shows specifically what happens to them when the do fail, and it’s not throwing them away.

https://www.ttc.ca/About_the_TTC/Commission_reports_and_information/Commission_meetings/2016/July_11/Reports/21_PA_-_Supply_of_BAE_Propulsion_Parts_for_the_Hybrid_Bus_Fl.pdf

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Please keep this thread on track, we don’t need it getting diverted again. 

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2 hours ago, TTC Guy said:

Please keep this thread on track, we don’t need it getting diverted again. 

Who are you referring too? I can stop reporting on 7575 if it bothers people.

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3 hours ago, TTC Guy said:

Please keep this thread on track, we don’t need it getting diverted again. 

It pertains to the discussion of a retired VII whereabout which this thread is. Now granted spamming it of location is silly, but I don’t believe he is doing that.

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15 hours ago, Matthew TTC 4120 said:

Who are you referring too? I can stop reporting on 7575 if it bothers people.

I’m not referring to you, I appreciate updates on 7575

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IMG_0058.thumb.jpg.e45a7b8a76d1430e9b5d70aa3bfb6a99.jpgIMG_0061.thumb.jpg.c120c489d02fbefbd7582fdea1ea54cd.jpgIMG_0063.thumb.jpg.feb9b5e4c457b1722ba6d7dcf4bda8f4.jpg  I don't see the Novabuses and 7808 anymore so they are most likely in pieces. The two Orion VII NG Hybrids I saw were 1585 (right) and 1567 (Left) and an Orion V 70xx/94xx on top of the scrap pile next to a white Orion V unmarked. Oh, I also threw in a coach from Greyhound but that is what I saw the day before yesterday. (Photos taken were all on a road OPEN to the public. I did NOT trespass into the property)

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If things go swell next week, I’ll keep my eye out for 1771 and 1810.

RIP 

Thou shalt giveth thy Hybrid a chance to do a route up in the skies.

1: Lithium’s: 23

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If 7575 is indeed not bound for preservation, perhaps TTC should convert it into an event support bus to replace one of the buses lost to overexcited Raptors fans.

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36 minutes ago, Tom1122 said:

If 7575 is indeed not bound for preservation, perhaps TTC should convert it into an event support bus to replace one of the buses lost to overexcited Raptors fans.

With an orphan engine make?

 

 

No.

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On 8/16/2019 at 10:11 AM, Tom1122 said:

If 7575 is indeed not bound for preservation, perhaps TTC should convert it into an event support bus to replace one of the buses lost to overexcited Raptors fans.

Right now, 7575 is chilling at the side of Davenport garage as the ring leader in front of them Ford Pickups. 

*Edit* Now she is next to 9003 I believe.

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