Orion V Posted April 19, 2019 Report Share Posted April 19, 2019 That's so weird that they didn't put that seat over the vent right before the steps. It's not like people can stand in that area anyways but they neglected to put a seat there. Don't think I've ever seen any Xcelsior like this. Is it me or I don't see any USB charging locations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someguy3071 Posted April 19, 2019 Report Share Posted April 19, 2019 13 minutes ago, Orion V said: That's so weird that they didn't put that seat over the vent right before the steps. It's not like people can stand in that area anyways but they neglected to put a seat there. Don't think I've ever seen any Xcelsior like this. Is it me or I don't see any USB charging locations. Looks like there is a single seat over the vent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Posted April 19, 2019 Report Share Posted April 19, 2019 22 minutes ago, Someguy3071 said: Looks like there is a single seat over the vent. Nope the last seat in that row is just before the vent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion VI Posted April 19, 2019 Report Share Posted April 19, 2019 Some pics from @ttchelps on twitter: 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doppelkupplung Posted April 19, 2019 Report Share Posted April 19, 2019 14 hours ago, Imgursdownvote4love said: Different style frameless windows than I am used to. Usually, it ends at the slanted back window. It’s actually the same as the picture you have. The only difference is the black is continued through to the back through paint to conform with the rest of the livery. If you look closely, you’ll see that the rearmost part is slightly matted compared to the rest of the bus. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Reid Posted April 19, 2019 Report Share Posted April 19, 2019 The new door "switch" is 1 feature im not a big fan of.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someguy3071 Posted April 19, 2019 Report Share Posted April 19, 2019 29 minutes ago, Lex Reid said: The new door "switch" is 1 feature im not a big fan of.. Which genius thought this was a good idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lip Posted April 19, 2019 Report Share Posted April 19, 2019 Glad to see that the ergonomics on all new bus designs continue to get worse and worse. Honestly, what in the hell are these companies thinking? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7575 Posted April 19, 2019 Report Share Posted April 19, 2019 11 minutes ago, lip said: Honestly, what in the hell are these companies thinking? Literally nothing. TTC should've done more research. People that make more than I do need to get their heads out of their asses. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HB_1024 Posted April 19, 2019 Report Share Posted April 19, 2019 Given that the knob says Vapor on it I'm sure that design is on the door manufacturer. Is it even (still?) possible for a transit agency to specify who makes the doors on a given bus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7575 Posted April 19, 2019 Report Share Posted April 19, 2019 Could this be retrofitted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechnicaProductions Posted April 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2019 53 minutes ago, HB_1024 said: Given that the knob says Vapor on it I'm sure that design is on the door manufacturer. Is it even (still?) possible for a transit agency to specify who makes the doors on a given bus? Yes it is, Ventura doors are also an option with New Flyer buses 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtrazsteve Posted April 20, 2019 Report Share Posted April 20, 2019 It could have been a cost factor for customization considering originally TTC was only going to 10 buses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin ORION Posted April 20, 2019 Root Admin Report Share Posted April 20, 2019 3 hours ago, 7575 said: Literally nothing. TTC should've done more research. People that make more than I do need to get their heads out of their asses. Well at the end of the day, you don’t make these decisions. Did you ever think that this could be a test? Did you ever think that maybe this was what they wanted? No you didn’t. As long as it functions properly, then what is the big deal? 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someguy3071 Posted April 20, 2019 Report Share Posted April 20, 2019 1 hour ago, J. Boic said: As long as it functions properly, then what is the big deal? It might function but that doesn't make this a good design. Drive a bus and you'll understand what were talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A Posted April 20, 2019 Report Share Posted April 20, 2019 1 hour ago, J. Boic said: Well at the end of the day, you don’t make these decisions. Did you ever think that this could be a test? Did you ever think that maybe this was what they wanted? No you didn’t. As long as it functions properly, then what is the big deal? Yes you are right. And this is just the pilot bus as well so modifications could be made to the rest of the fleet. But it could be a test for future orders. 13 minutes ago, Someguy3071 said: Drive a bus and you'll understand what were talking about. He does.. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someguy3071 Posted April 20, 2019 Report Share Posted April 20, 2019 54 minutes ago, TTC 9701 said: He does.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transit geek Posted April 20, 2019 Report Share Posted April 20, 2019 16 hours ago, Lex Reid said: The new door "switch" is 1 feature im not a big fan of.. The doors are almost certainly electrically powered so I don't see why they need to design the controls such that you need to twist your hand extensively to operate the knob. Even the Nova HEVs have the same handle-type controller as the older batch with their air-powered doors, so there's no reason a totally new style of controller is needed. And as for moving the kneeling / ramp switches from the right hand side over to the left so that they can operated by the same hand as the door controller ... mmm ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom1122 Posted April 20, 2019 Report Share Posted April 20, 2019 On 4/19/2019 at 12:33 AM, Orion V said: Is it me or I don't see any USB charging locations. I wonder if that's because the TTC doesn't want to risk draining the batteries for something besides the bus's propulsion/Air conditioning/heating in winter. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTC Guy Posted April 20, 2019 Report Share Posted April 20, 2019 Delete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Posted April 20, 2019 Report Share Posted April 20, 2019 44 minutes ago, TTC Guy said: I dont think thats a good idea to post that info, cause you know some foamers are wild and will somehow get to the bus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTC Guy Posted April 20, 2019 Report Share Posted April 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ultimate said: I dont think thats a good idea to post that info, cause you know some foamers are wild and will somehow get to the bus True, very true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A Posted April 20, 2019 Report Share Posted April 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Ultimate said: I dont think thats a good idea to post that info, cause you know some foamers are wild and will somehow get to the bus Exactly. We know who they are. Cannot name them for some reason. They should just wait until they enter service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leylandvictory2 Posted April 20, 2019 Report Share Posted April 20, 2019 it looks the spring brake and the emergency brake handle have been separated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Reid Posted April 21, 2019 Report Share Posted April 21, 2019 Also like to add in, from the Orientation i attended for the bus, the first 10 vehicles 3700-3709 have a 2018 build year in the booklet i received. 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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