TTC Electric Buses

[FabianColeyLOVESBUSES]

3718 is now delivered at arrow road garage.

[FabianColeyLOVESBUSES]

3719 is now delivered at arrow road garage. 

[drum118]

Caught 3730, 33 & 35 on 32D on Eglinton, but in the wrong location to get good shots of them.

[FabianColeyLOVESBUSES]

3713 is now trackable.

[Shemar]

#3718 and #3720 are now trackable.

[Shemar]

https://insideevs.com/news/406257/byd-k11m-electric-bus-details-altoona-test/amp/

[Doppelkupplung]

Is this true? I thought the XE60 was first?

[Shemar]

20 minutes ago, Doppelkupplung said:

Is this true? I thought the XE60 was first?

The XE60 was the first.

https://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/new-flyers-sixty-foot-electric-bus-rapid-transit-models-become-the-first-and-only-to-complete-fta-altoona-testing-700634901.html

Here is the test results for the K11M:

https://t.co/cJJsGQWlUx?amp=1

[Doppelkupplung]

28 minutes ago, Shemar said:

The XE60 was the first.

Well I mean, every book in the known world has managed to be the #1 New York Times bestseller, so I guess this is the natural way to glorify a bus. 

[MK78]

So what's the deal here... If the XE60 was first (nov 2018), then why is BYD claiming 1st?

[Someguy3071]

I was at Eglinton division the other day and had a good look at one of the BYD buses. I have to say I wasn't very impressed. 

[MK78]

31 minutes ago, Someguy3071 said:

I was at Eglinton division the other day and had a good look at one of the BYD buses. I have to say I wasn't very impressed. 

In what way? interior layout, fit & finish, operators cab?

[Someguy3071]

7 hours ago, MK78 said:

In what way? interior layout, fit & finish, operators cab?

All of the above actually. 

Those steps going to the back are awkward. The 5 seats across the back don't have any windows because they end about 3 feet earlier. Big cabinets behind driver take up lots of space and make it feel more closed in. 

Fit and finished is eh.

I did like the big speedometer gauge though. 

[MK78]

I still prefer the old Orion VII OG interior layout the most, out of all the low floor buses we've had... Subsequent versions just reduce seating to the point that a 40ft bus has as low as 32 seats, from 38 of the Orion VII OG's.

And the OG had the same two spots for mobility devices.

[Shemar]

16 hours ago, MK78 said:

So what's the deal here... If the XE60 was first (nov 2018), then why is BYD claiming 1st?

I did a bit more reading into this and this is what I found out: The test that the K11M did was a newer version of the Federal Transit Bus Test at Altoona. They call it the Altoona Test. That's probably why they said that the K11M was the first artic to successfully complete it.

[Orion V]

Just notice the BYDs have Gemini seats as oppose to the Insight that the other 2 electric models use.

There was an interior pic posted in this thread a few pages back.

The rear step is really weird. If you think the Xcelsior rear step is weird, this is another level...

[JustinHA]

TTC Proterra E-Bus 3727 on 6 Bay On Saturday March 30, 2020

 

[splendidwizardplayer]

54 minutes ago, JustinHA said:

TTC Proterra E-Bus 3727 on 6 Bay On Saturday March 30, 2020

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Shemar]

Would anyone happen to know if any more new flyers or proterras have been delivered as yet?

[JustinHA]

Just wondering does anyone have a picture picture/pictures of what a TTC BYD K9M interior looks like?  because I’m interested to see the interior.

[Orion V]

5 minutes ago, JustinHA said:

Just wondering does anyone have a picture picture/pictures of what a TTC BYD K9M interior looks like?  because I’m interested to see the interior.

Go back several pages in this thread

[Doppelkupplung]

5 minutes ago, JustinHA said:

Just wondering does anyone have a picture picture/pictures of what a TTC BYD K9M interior looks like?  because I’m interested to see the interior.

If you go to the ig post you can swipe through the pics. 

[M. Parsons]

On March 27, 2020 at 11:59 PM, Shemar said:

I did a bit more reading into this and this is what I found out: The test that the K11M did was a newer version of the Federal Transit Bus Test at Altoona. They call it the Altoona Test. That's probably why they said that the K11M was the first artic to successfully complete it.

 

It's been nicknamed the Altoona Test since I first heard of it decades ago.

The change that happened was in 2016 when the testing went from just being a test that had no conclusions, to being a pass/ fail test.

The XE60 only required a partial test as the 60' Xcelsior platform had already undergone a full test. 

The K11M had never been tested so it had to do the full test, and hence why they can make that claim.

Given that the XE60 was test #1903 and the K11M #1905, it's possible they might have been testing at the same time.