MK78 Posted February 14, 2020 Report Share Posted February 14, 2020 59 minutes ago, Someguy3071 said: I wonder how these buses are performing today. Indeed, Its middle of february and it's the first bitterly cold overning into morning we've had all season. It's really been quite mild. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Doppelkupplung Posted February 14, 2020 Report Share Posted February 14, 2020 I'm sure it snow problem for them at all. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Tom1122 Posted February 14, 2020 Report Share Posted February 14, 2020 According to Transsee there are four Proterras out. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Xtrazsteve Posted February 14, 2020 Report Share Posted February 14, 2020 4 hours ago, Tom1122 said: According to Transsee there are four Proterras out. There were 7 of them out at 6am like any usual day this past 2 weeks. Not sure if some gone back to the garage early. Link to post Share on other sites
FabianColeyLOVESBUSES Posted February 14, 2020 Report Share Posted February 14, 2020 3716 is now delivered at arrow road garage. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites
MSF1000 Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 Mount Dennis's 3725, 3726, 3727, 3729, 3730, and 3734 all in service while all of arrow's new flyer in the garage Link to post Share on other sites
dowlingm Posted February 16, 2020 Report Share Posted February 16, 2020 Saw 3725 the other day and seemed a bit “toy like” from the back, I guess because I have gotten used to a “flat” back end in TTC buses where this seemed curved and a bit plasticky visually. Obviously none of that matters as long as it does the job! It was on 141; not sure if that route suits the vehicle but if people are going be expected to pay a premium for 140 series routes the least the TTC can give them is a quiet bus. Link to post Share on other sites
MK78 Posted February 22, 2020 Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 Interesting, BYD 3750 is or was tracking at Jet Garage on Hymus rd. Wonder what it's there for. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Shemar Posted February 22, 2020 Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 The final BYD unit has been delivered to Eglinton. 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Tom1122 Posted February 22, 2020 Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 1 hour ago, MK78 said: Interesting, BYD 3750 is or was tracking at Jet Garage on Hymus rd. Wonder what it's there for. Possibly training. I wonder when the BYD buses will go into service. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
MK78 Posted February 23, 2020 Report Share Posted February 23, 2020 22 hours ago, Shemar said: The final BYD unit has been delivered to Eglinton. Interesting how they hadn't delivered a bus at all, then all 10 are delivered in less than a month's time. Link to post Share on other sites
ORION Posted February 23, 2020 Report Share Posted February 23, 2020 There are a few new Proterra buses at MTB in Milton getting prepped for delivery to the TTC. 6 Link to post Share on other sites
Xtrazsteve Posted February 23, 2020 Report Share Posted February 23, 2020 They need to get all 60 buses delivered by March 31, 2020 to quality for PTIF. Link to post Share on other sites
MK78 Posted February 23, 2020 Report Share Posted February 23, 2020 35 minutes ago, Xtrazsteve said: They need to get all 60 buses delivered by March 31, 2020 to quality for PTIF. Well that's interesting, cuz there's like 20 or so outstanding from NFI and Proterra combined. Link to post Share on other sites
BusFanForever Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 11 hours ago, ORION said: There are a few new Proterra buses at MTB in Milton getting prepped for delivery to the TTC. 3735 was delivered to Mt Dennis on Friday. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites
leylandvictory2 Posted February 25, 2020 Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 On 2/22/2020 at 1:40 PM, Shemar said: The final BYD unit has been delivered to Eglinton. from the looks of it, 2 were sent back. I saw only 8 this morning. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
MK78 Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 Interesting tidbit on the electric buses from the TTC Board meeting today... New Flyers are getting about 220km per charge, while the Proterras 180km... No data on the BYD obviously. Also about quality of the buses as delivered, with the New Flyers having the least "snags" or issues as they call them, Proterras more, and BYD the most. 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Finch East Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 2 hours ago, MK78 said: Interesting tidbit on the electric buses from the TTC Board meeting today... New Flyers are getting about 220km per charge, while the Proterras 180km... No data on the BYD obviously. Also about quality of the buses as delivered, with the New Flyers having the least "snags" or issues as they call them, Proterras more, and BYD the most. If that is the case then I am wondering why TTC has been running more Proterras than they are running the New Flyers according to my observations from TransSee. Link to post Share on other sites
MK78 Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 In any case I think those are pathetic numbers. I don't know what a Diesel Nova or Hybrid Nova, but It's gotta be at least double for the diesel and hopefully more on a hybrid. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
meltingtomato Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 Well I can't find this for the TTC, for some of Miway's all day runs (on the 19 and 39, 5am to after midnight), you're talking about 350-370km total, whether it's a 2003 D40LF or a 2017 LFS Artic. So at 220km, while not quite enough for an all day run, they certainly can still go quite a distance. Link to post Share on other sites
Xtrazsteve Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 3 hours ago, Finch East said: If that is the case then I am wondering why TTC has been running more Proterras than they are running the New Flyers according to my observations from TransSee. It look like decisions are made at division level. Each division chooses how or what buses they are going to operate so the top management might not know the Flyers aren't going out much. 2 hours ago, MK78 said: In any case I think those are pathetic numbers. I don't know what a Diesel Nova or Hybrid Nova, but It's gotta be at least double for the diesel and hopefully more on a hybrid. Obviously they have to be at least double those ranges. Those are pretty typical numbers for an electric bus today which makes them not suitable for mass adoption yet. Some runs like 35 Jane #1 Run is around 425km (runs from 4am to 2:30xm the next morning). Obviously these runs can't go overnight charging battery electric. TTC do have runs that are in the 450-500km range. About half of the day run range are in the 250-350km. Then we have routes like the 927 which would run out of gas if kept on the route all day. All day runs would finish up around 6-7pm. The afternoon peak runs would fill the remaining evening service. They might even need 3 shifts for electric buses. Schedules would all have to be made for ebuses which leads to more deadheading. They might need a much larger fleet to handle all the charging and pay operators while buses are charging on route. I really don't see the TTC can handle more than 30% of the fleet being converted to electric. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites
bus_7246 Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 They may start looking at on street charging, or overhead roof charging options since I’ve noticed the XE40s and BE40s that have been arriving this year have the roof charging port on them 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Bus_Medic Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 4 hours ago, bus_7246 said: They may start looking at on street charging, or overhead roof charging options since I’ve noticed the XE40s and BE40s that have been arriving this year have the roof charging port on them I think that’s just a common build template. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
FabianColeyLOVESBUSES Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 3717 is now delivered at arrow road garage. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites
FabianColeyLOVESBUSES Posted March 3, 2020 Report Share Posted March 3, 2020 3715 and 3720 are now delivered at arrow road garage. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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