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1 minute ago, dowlingm said:

I have occasionally wondered if TTC should have the concept of "seasonal vehicles", where CLRVs and e-buses could run through the milder parts of the year and Flexities and diesel burners handle the winter :D

And where would you store those massive fleets of vehicles that are only needed for 6 months of the year?

 

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2 hours ago, dowlingm said:

I have occasionally wondered if TTC should have the concept of "seasonal vehicles", where CLRVs and e-buses could run through the milder parts of the year and Flexities and diesel burners handle the winter :D

OOoooh.  I like this idea.  I like it a lot.  That would be a throwback to pre-1921 times over a hundred years ago back before the TTC existed.  Some street railway companies did have summer and winter fleets where the opposite season's fleet would be parked during it's off season half of the year.  Others had summer and winter carbodies where they'd drop the summer open body on a set of trucks and then lift it off and drop a fully enclosed winter carbody on in the fall and it'd be changed out again in the next winter's spring.  With the way what's old is new again, the idea's got some merit.  Think of how it would play to all those 'retro' hipsters that don't know that we never called records "vinyl" back in the day and film photography wasn't "hard", it was the only way to take a picture.

2 hours ago, smallspy said:

And where would you store those massive fleets of vehicles that are only needed for 6 months of the year?

 

Dan

My suggestion, to properly capture the century plus old aspect of the idea of a summer and winter fleet of streetcars, would be to demolish a few condo buildings and build an accurate reproduction of a Toronto Railway Company carhouse from the original drawings.

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2 hours ago, smallspy said:

And where would you store those massive fleets of vehicles that are only needed for 6 months of the year?

 

Dan

Summer is easy - just put them wherever we pile snow in the winter.

Winter is a bit tricky, will have to think about that. Was thinking just use artificial cooling to create a thicker harbour ice layer and just use towing cables to slide them into place, but the pesky environmentalists would complain about tiny leaks of lubricant and stuff.

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1 hour ago, dowlingm said:

Summer is easy - just put them wherever we pile snow in the winter.

Winter is a bit tricky, will have to think about that. Was thinking just use artificial cooling to create a thicker harbour ice layer and just use towing cables to slide them into place, but the pesky environmentalists would complain about tiny leaks of lubricant and stuff.

I'm surprised that you didn't think of simply stacking them up on each other like cordwood.

 

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29 minutes ago, smallspy said:

I'm surprised that you didn't think of simply stacking them up on each other like cordwood.

 

Dan

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Good idea. That maximizes the number of streetcars you can pack in on the same surface area.

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On 12/21/2019 at 6:39 PM, leylandvictory2 said:

BYD bus once again disappeared from Eglinton garage.

Has it spent more time out of service than in service?

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1 hour ago, Shaun said:

Has it spent more time out of service than in service?

Has never been in service

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1 minute ago, Shaun said:

That's not good.

New bus? It'll take time to be put into service

New bus with new tech that requires its own special infrastructure? Pretty sure its gonna take even longer. 

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And still not a single BYD officially delivered. At this rate they'll pass winter testing period which the others are already going thru.

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6 hours ago, MK78 said:

And still not a single BYD officially delivered. At this rate they'll pass winter testing period which the others are already going thru.

Maybe that's their intent. lol

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7 hours ago, MK78 said:

And still not a single BYD officially delivered. At this rate they'll pass winter testing period which the others are already going thru.

They obviously cannot do their jobs properly.. They have no issues with Proterra and Flyer so why is BYD having too many issues...

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30 minutes ago, TTC 9701 said:

They obviously cannot do their jobs properly.. They have no issues with Proterra and Flyer so why is BYD having too many issues...

This is what happens when you get new workers in a new factory building them. The Proterra and New Flyers come existing factories with experience on building them. It's like the Flexity's being built by people that never built a streetcar before. 

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10 hours ago, TTC 9701 said:

They obviously cannot do their jobs properly.. They have no issues with Proterra and Flyer so why is BYD having too many issues...

Obliviously you havent payed attention to the proterra news, their back doors have been giving alot of problems and a handful of them have broke down

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11 hours ago, TTC 9701 said:

They obviously cannot do their jobs properly.. They have no issues with Proterra and Flyer so why is BYD having too many issues...

I want to see you make a new bus for a different country in a other part of this planet from where your based in and make a new model and tech for said bus and have a deadline to follow and move to a new plant in said country. All by yourself.

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3 minutes ago, splendidwizardplayer said:

I want to see you make a new bus for a different country in a other part of this planet from where your based in and make a new model and tech for said bus and have a deadline to follow and move to a new plant in said country. All by yourself.

Are you saying BYD is a one man operation?

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1 minute ago, PCC Guy said:

Are you saying BYD is a one man operation?

Nope. Just the way the way he/she reacted to BYD's slow deliveries and how it's the workers fault.

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But you can't just blame BYD for taking so long to deliver the 10 electric buses if you don't know the rationale of the slow process in building them. It could be a lack of experience in building electric buses for Toronto's streets considering its their first Canadian eBus order. It's better that they built only a few units first and have them sent to the TTC and if it's not built to the TTC specs then they can be sent back to the plant for modifications rather than to have them delivered and run into a crap load of issues that could potentially shorten their lifespan. Once BYD gets it done right then we'll see more of them being delivered albeit it only being 10 buses.

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The BYD will seen a shorter lifespan anyways. A TTC presentation shows they use a carbon steel frame oppose to a stainless steel one on the Flyers. The Proterra is suppose to have a composite frame. TTC isn't buying them in hopes they survive for 15 years but just to test them their technology performance under regular TTC service. 

I think NFI is the most experienced bus builder and their vehicles would likely outlast the rest, especially for Canadian winters.

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