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2019 Nova LFS Order

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1 hour ago, MCIBUS said:

So how many are left to arrive? or are they all in now?

4682 appears to be the only one no one as spotted yet.

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I actually rode on a new Nova for the first time yesterday. 4609. Was better than I expected. The rear row, despite no seat padding, was reasonably comfortable. 

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12 hours ago, 8792 said:

I actually rode on a new Nova for the first time yesterday. 4609. Was better than I expected. The rear row, despite no seat padding, was reasonably comfortable. 

Better than the STM, I can see why Elton calls them scrap... Nothing will beat the Orion VI seats... 2nd place would go to any OC bus pre 1997, but I digress... Very comfortable for what thin pieces of fabric they are.

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Has the 2019 order (for 2020 delivery I assume) been confirmed yet? Or is it still just a line item on the budget waiting to be spent?

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Last Friday July 5th I went up to Ottawa, and spotted some new Nova's on the way up! Don't know how helpful I'll be, but here goes!! 

Nova 4651 was spotted headed west to St. Laurent, down the off ramp on the Transit Way, and was out of service

Nova 4626 was on route 232 "Queenswood Heights" and was spotted on the 417 headed east!

Nova 4620 was on route 104 " Place D'Orleans" and was again, headed on the 417 headed east! Hopefully, this is helpful for spotting, but we'll see! 

 

If photos aren't that great, sorry! Taken at speed of a doorless Jeep, on my phone! Hopefully a bit helpful!

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On 7/10/2019 at 10:30 AM, Loud-Invero said:

Better than the STM, I can see why Elton calls them scrap... Nothing will beat the Orion VI seats... 2nd place would go to any OC bus pre 1997, but I digress... Very comfortable for what thin pieces of fabric they are.

If you don't like how OC Transpo specs their buses why don't you go talk to your city councillor. Nova makes to order. And just because you or Elton (little rocket man) doesn't like the bus doesn't make it scrap. Some of us make very good salaries driving nothing but Nova.

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6 hours ago, SMS said:

If you don't like how OC Transpo specs their buses why don't you go talk to your city councillor. Nova makes to order. And just because you or Elton (little rocket man) doesn't like the bus doesn't make it scrap. Some of us make very good salaries driving nothing but Nova.

The bus itself is good, seats could be better, which I will make that suggestion at the next Bay Ward Transit committee for future purchases of Nova (thanks for the suggestion). It's way better than the 97XX. I just think newer buses are much more crappy in regards to lifespan, reliability and comfort *in the context of OC* than it use to be. I don't think that would be very controversial to say.

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Personally I don’t have a big issue with any of the buses currently used. 

If I were to nitpick the Inveros engine rumble is very loud at the rear. 

Always liked the Nova LFS. Happy to see OC adding it to their fleet. It’s been around a long time and only been refined and improved on with age. 

Nothing is perfect but I think it’s quite good for the needs of the city. 

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2 hours ago, Loud-Invero said:

The bus itself is good, seats could be better, which I will make that suggestion at the next Bay Ward Transit committee for future purchases of Nova (thanks for the suggestion). It's way better than the 97XX. I just think newer buses are much more crappy in regards to lifespan, reliability and comfort *in the context of OC* than it use to be. I don't think that would be very controversial to say.

To my understanding, the seats were ordered as is by mistake. They were told that they would have a drain hole, but it was assumed they would be padded. I believe the next batch will be padded

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16 hours ago, Enviro_1203 said:

To my understanding, the seats were ordered as is by mistake. They were told that they would have a drain hole, but it was assumed they would be padded. I believe the next batch will be padded

Do you think they plan to retrofit the other 82 units?

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1 minute ago, Loud-Invero said:

Do you think they plan to retrofit the other 82 units?

Maybe as parts need replacing from use but not for the sake of putting padding

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17 hours ago, Enviro_1203 said:

next batch

Pardon my ignorance on this (i’m just an occasional observer here, not a resident) but there are more novas on their way in? Is this a multiyear contract of 80 or so units type of deal or something else?

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1 hour ago, Orion6025 said:

Pardon my ignorance on this (i’m just an occasional observer here, not a resident) but there are more novas on their way in? Is this a multiyear contract of 80 or so units type of deal or something else?

There are another 93 units scheduled to start arriving in November.

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1 hour ago, Enviro_1203 said:

There are another 93 units scheduled to start arriving in November.

Alright! More bus hunting for all of us!

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1 hour ago, Enviro_1203 said:

There are another 93 units scheduled to start arriving in November.

I assume this will replace more unrebuilt Inveros.

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On 7/13/2019 at 8:34 PM, STO_1601 said:

I assume this will replace more unrebuilt Inveros.

Last time I checked, 81 are for replacement of Inveros, while 12 will simply be for expansion.

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12 minutes ago, Enviro_1203 said:

4667, 4668, 4675, 4677 went in service today

4640, 4673, 4676, 4679 and 4681 delivered

So I guess that just leaves 4682?

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6 minutes ago, STO_1601 said:

So I guess that just leaves 4682?

No, 4661, 4662, 4664, 4669, 4670, 4671, 4678, 4680 and 4682

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On 7/13/2019 at 12:13 PM, Loud-Invero said:

Do you think they plan to retrofit the other 82 units?

I did also sit (initially) in the row immediately ahead of the back row and those seats were very uncomfortable. The curvature of the rear engine seats is what makes them comfortable  

How could the city “forget” to have padded seats? Don’t you want to attract more ridership not repel it?

Sometimes I think the city have no interest whatsoever in increasing ridership with moves like this. 

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18 hours ago, Enviro_1203 said:

4667, 4668, 4675, 4677 went in service today

4640, 4673, 4676, 4679 and 4681 delivered

 

18 hours ago, Enviro_1203 said:

No, 4661, 4662, 4664, 4669, 4670, 4671, 4678, 4680 and 4682

For tracking purposes, here are the pre-delivery sightings from Saturday, July 13, 2019:

City View:

4670 (not plated)

Property Adjacent to City View:

4669, 4679, 4676, 4681, 4664, 4673, 4661, 4680, 4678 - all plated

Today's Sightings:

4668 on Route 64 Morgan's Grant, at Lebreton Station at 17:00
4677 on Route 63 Briarbrook, at Lincoln Fields at 14:13

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42 minutes ago, JCL said:

 

For tracking purposes, here are the pre-delivery sightings from Saturday, July 13, 2019:

City View:

4670 (not plated)

Property Adjacent to City View:

4669, 4679, 4676, 4681, 4664, 4673, 4661, 4680, 4678 - all plated

Today's Sightings:

4668 on Route 64 Morgan's Grant, at Lebreton Station at 17:00
4677 on Route 63 Briarbrook, at Lincoln Fields at 14:13

Do you have photos?

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