STO_1601 Posted March 17, 2019 Report Share Posted March 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Enviro_1203 said: Standard bell like the artics I always thought the Novabus and New Flyer bells were the same. What is the difference between them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enviro_1203 Posted March 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2019 1 hour ago, STO_1601 said: I always thought the Novabus and New Flyer bells were the same. What is the difference between them? The bell on 4601-4609 is same as the artics, which according to OCTranspoMaster, is different than the STO bell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A Posted March 17, 2019 Report Share Posted March 17, 2019 The company who manufactures the bells is probably Faraday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flalex72 Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 Spotted 4607 driving eastbound along Heron yesterday about 5:20. It made the left turn onto Data Centre. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loud-Invero Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 On 3/17/2019 at 5:05 PM, Enviro_1203 said: The bell on 4601-4609 is same as the artics, which according to OCTranspoMaster, is different than the STO bell. STO bells above 11XX sound like this (the same as the STM) *SKIP TO 9:20* 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STO_1601 Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 1 hour ago, OCTranspoMaster said: STO bells above 11XX sound like this (the same as the STM) *SKIP TO 9:20* I've been on the STO 10XX and they have that bell sound too. I've been on the STO 08XX and they have the old bell sound. Which leads to what bell sound the STO 09XX have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bus_Medic Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 That’s a faraday product, same company that made the old electro mechanical chime. They’ve long, long since ceased production and support of those, I guess retroschool missed the memo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waiting for 30 Minutes Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 Took a short drive on 4601 today. There is a single beep when the rear door is activated, and another when it is opened by the passenger. Just a single beep if opened by the operator. The rear doors are currently timed to stay open for about a second longer than the other buses, though it feels like an eternity longer. Much like the double-deckers, the parking brake must be activated in order for the kneel and ramp to work. A neat (though useless) feature is the ramp automatically activates the hazard lights when deployment begins and turns them off when stowed. Similar to the 8100s double-deckers, there is a feature where after the bus is stopped for half a second, a "secondary brake" (someone have a better or actual term?) kicks in. However, unlike the 8100s, this "secondary brake" releases smoothly without the jolting. The bell chime is the same as the articulated and pre-4440 buses, though the housing looks like the STO's. The seat behind the bus operator is rock hard, whereas the other seats on the bus have some padding, particularly the co-operative seating area seats, which are also fold-down seats. The co-operative seating area and aisle is actually very open, likely because the backrest of the seats are mounted to the wall. I also foresee lots of operators banging their knees on the farebox getting out of the seat. The seatbelt buckle is on the left. Otherwise, it's a nice bus for now! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HB_1024 Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 7 minutes ago, Waiting for 30 Minutes said: Similar to the 8100s double-deckers, there is a feature where after the bus is stopped for half a second, a "secondary brake" (someone have a better or actual term?) kicks in. However, unlike the 8100s, this "secondary brake" releases smoothly without the jolting. I was always under the impression this was the transmission shifting down into neutral to "save fuel", and the jolt was due to a delay in shifting back into gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waiting for 30 Minutes Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 8 minutes ago, HB_1024 said: I was always under the impression this was the transmission shifting down into neutral to "save fuel", and the jolt was due to a delay in shifting back into gear. I guess so. No jolting on the Novas! Just a loud "pschft." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bus_Medic Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 57 minutes ago, Waiting for 30 Minutes said: I guess so. No jolting on the Novas! Just a loud "pschft." That’s an extra electrically applied air valve acting on the brake interlock, similar to cycling the rear doors. Set to apply after a predetermined (customer specified) time following no activity from the speedo signal (transmission output sensor specifically) it allows the operator to give their foot a rest at a red light, for instance. An approximately 5 psi service brake application will cancel it and release the brake. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enviro_1203 Posted March 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Waiting for 30 Minutes said: Took a short drive on 4601 today. There is a single beep when the rear door is activated, and another when it is opened by the passenger. Just a single beep if opened by the operator. The rear doors are currently timed to stay open for about a second longer than the other buses, though it feels like an eternity longer. Much like the double-deckers, the parking brake must be activated in order for the kneel and ramp to work. A neat (though useless) feature is the ramp automatically activates the hazard lights when deployment begins and turns them off when stowed. Similar to the 8100s double-deckers, there is a feature where after the bus is stopped for half a second, a "secondary brake" (someone have a better or actual term?) kicks in. However, unlike the 8100s, this "secondary brake" releases smoothly without the jolting. The bell chime is the same as the articulated and pre-4440 buses, though the housing looks like the STO's. The seat behind the bus operator is rock hard, whereas the other seats on the bus have some padding, particularly the co-operative seating area seats, which are also fold-down seats. The co-operative seating area and aisle is actually very open, likely because the backrest of the seats are mounted to the wall. I also foresee lots of operators banging their knees on the farebox getting out of the seat. The seatbelt buckle is on the left. Otherwise, it's a nice bus for now! All seats are rock hard except the cooperative seating ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enviro_1203 Posted March 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 4612 and 13 are almost ready for transport from Nova to City View, as well, production has started on all units up to 4626. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCIBUS Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 Question? I'm just curious when they put licence plates on new bus are the plates new or do they re-use plates from retired buses? Also do they put stickers(colour/month like personal plates) as well or its just plates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enviro_1203 Posted March 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 52 minutes ago, MCIBUS said: Question? I'm just curious when they put licence plates on new bus are the plates new or do they re-use plates from retired buses? Also do they put stickers(colour/month like personal plates) as well or its just plates? New plates with sticker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andreasv Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 5 hours ago, Enviro_1203 said: New plates with sticker How is the date for the sticker determined on vehicles owned by a company? With personal plates its obviously the owners birthday month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enviro_1203 Posted March 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 2 hours ago, andreasv said: How is the date for the sticker determined on vehicles owned by a company? With personal plates its obviously the owners birthday month. No clue but expiry is always March 31st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsbuspage Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 8 minutes ago, Enviro_1203 said: No clue but expiry is always March 31st Back in the 1970s, the quarterly Ontario plates used on many city buses expired at the end of March, so I guess that's been continued to the present day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whistler Posted March 30, 2019 Report Share Posted March 30, 2019 At one point it was common for the city to re-use plates and transfer them from old buses to new buses (they also did that with police cars). Now they seem to always put on new plates which is probably more convenient than keeping track of which plate to transfer to which vehicle, and also the newer plates in Ontario don’t seem to last as long as the old ones did (new plates fade and peel a lot faster than they did in the 70s-90s). Nowadays it isn’t uncommon for plates to be replaced before the bus is replaced, because the original plate fades or paint peels off, so one bus can have 2-3 different plate numbers in it’s life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCL Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 I've been advised that four Nova LFS should be entering revenue service today -- 4606 to 4609. They are restricted to four specific runs out of St. Laurent Garage (three of them are morning runs, one is an afternoon run). I will NOT be disclosing what runs they are. But keep your eyes out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaGoose Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 20 minutes ago, JCL said: I've been advised that four Nova LFS should be entering revenue service today -- 4606 to 4609. They are restricted to four specific runs out of St. Laurent Garage (three of them are morning runs, one is an afternoon run). I will NOT be disclosing what runs they are. But keep your eyes out. Just saw a 91 Orléans coming out of Dominion. https://otttransit.ca/paddle/OC_Transpo/6647838 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCCheetos Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 A few pictures of 4608 on the 24 were posted on /r/Ottawa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invero Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 From /r/Ottawa and here, the morning runs seem to be on the 24, the 8, and the 91. Wonder what afternoon is. edit: misread a post and thought that someone had seen one on a nonexistent route 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCCheetos Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Invero said: the 8 I think it was at 8[:00] the 8 isn't a route anymore! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invero Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, OCCheetos said: I think it was at 8[:00] the 8 isn't a route anymore! https://old.reddit.com/r/ottawa/comments/b8x295/new_novabus_spotted_at_750ish_this_morning_at_st/ek0ma5t/ You're right, there goes me misreading and then trusting Reddit about a bus I didn't think we had. Seems like YanikPaulPaquette is talking about the 24. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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