Bus_Medic Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 Nope, compartment behind a windowless diesel lfs is dead space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 That’s why I said certain Novabus models, not all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsbuspage Posted August 26, 2018 Report Share Posted August 26, 2018 12 hours ago, Charlie said: I believe the main reason for that is because it’s more difficult with Low Floor busses, as all of the components that were under the floor had to be moved elsewhere (in most buses, the rear where the rear window would be, the only exception I know of is many Van Hool buses where they are mid-engined or the Orion VI where it was more to the left side of the rear) but now it seems like more and more bus manufacturers have the rear window as at least an option on some buses, like certain New Flyer models and Novabusses as well. -Charlie It wasn't just low-floor buses. Many high-floor buses of the 1980s and 1990s had their air-conditioners mounted where the rear window would have been, such as the GM/TMC/Nova RTS, the Grumman 870, the Flxible Metro, the Gillig Phantom, the New Flyer HF, the GM and MCI Classic, and Orion I and V buses. Only a small number of transit agencies ordered these buses with roof-mounted A/C units so they could have a rear window: OC Transpo, the STO, Santa Monica Big Blue Bus, and Las Vegas CAT are examples that come to mind. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STO_1601 Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 Will the NovaBus LFS' be built at the St-Eustache factory or the Plattsbrugh factory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enviro_1203 Posted September 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2018 2 hours ago, STO_1601 said: Will the NovaBus LFS' be built at the St-Eustache factory or the Plattsbrugh factory? Likely St Eustache Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallspy Posted September 14, 2018 Report Share Posted September 14, 2018 14 hours ago, STO_1601 said: Will the NovaBus LFS' be built at the St-Eustache factory or the Plattsbrugh factory? Rather than assuming, it will depend on two factors. 1. Is there a clause in the contract that requires a certain amount of the vehicle to have "Canadian content"? 2. Is there going to be sufficient capacity at St. Eustache to build them for the timeframe that OC Transpo wants them? Speaking to 1., the earlier Metrolinx contracts did specify a minimum amount of "Canadian content" was required. I don't know if that has carried over to the latest contracts. And for 2., Nova has a number of very big contracts underway right now, not the least is a large Quebec consortium order which has to be built at St. Eustache. If OC Transpo wants its buses sooner rather than later, they may end up being built at Plattsburgh. Dan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCCheetos Posted September 14, 2018 Report Share Posted September 14, 2018 Given the current political climate, I would imagine they'd most likely be built in Quebec to avoid any problems with tariffs and stuff. If Nova Bus has another large order being produced at St. Eustache that might explain why we'll apparently be getting a few buses in January followed by the rest a few months later. Possibly related (to politics) possibly not, our 7 new Stadler FLIRTs will be manufactured in Switzerland (and then most likely assembled in Ottawa) despite Stadler having a plant in the US that would be capable of producing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Posted September 14, 2018 Report Share Posted September 14, 2018 Says right here. -Charlie 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enviro_1203 Posted November 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 The buses will be numbered 4601-4682 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudebrains Posted November 13, 2018 Report Share Posted November 13, 2018 On 11/7/2018 at 2:20 AM, Enviro_1203 said: The buses will be numbered 4601-4682 Will OC be reusing numbers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCIBUS Posted November 13, 2018 Report Share Posted November 13, 2018 They already have. With the 6000 series & 8000 series. The original 60001-6999 where the GM New Looks & the 8001-8999 where the GM New Looks, GM Artic, Orion I's,Orion II's, Orion-Ikaruses(Orion III's), GM Classics, Tel-Transpo(Twin Coach, Internationals, Mercedes & VreKEE's(SP)) So by the time they reach 4999 the earlier 4000 will probally be available again? Back in 2000 OC changed there numbering system to 3000 was to be 30' & 35' buses 4000 was to be 40' buses 6000 was to be 60' buses 7000 was to be 75' buses(double artivcs if they had gone with the original plan on purchasing them reanaue I believe) 5000 & 8000 series after 2000 wasn't consider at the time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whistler Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 I was looking at the satellite view of the Novabus factory using Google maps on my phone and there are at least 4 buses parked around their factory that look like they have that new OC Transpo livery (you can see the red extending over the roof on the front end of the bus). I have no idea when that satellite image was taken... but they only seem to be there on the Google maps PHONE app satellite view. When I looked at the same factory on satellite image using Google maps on a PC, it was a different image and only had all white buses and some STM buses (pretty crazy what you can see using the 3d image on Google maps for PC. Included what I saw on my phone... not sure for sure if they are OC buses but I can't think of any other systems with a red nose like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oc4526 Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 hour ago, whistler said: I was looking at the satellite view of the Novabus factory using Google maps on my phone and there are at least 4 buses parked around their factory that look like they have that new OC Transpo livery (you can see the red extending over the roof on the front end of the bus). I have no idea when that satellite image was taken... but they only seem to be there on the Google maps PHONE app satellite view. When I looked at the same factory on satellite image using Google maps on a PC, it was a different image and only had all white buses and some STM buses (pretty crazy what you can see using the 3d image on Google maps for PC. Included what I saw on my phone... not sure for sure if they are OC buses but I can't think of any other systems with a red nose like that. I wouldn't trust Google Satellite views as they tend to be dated For example, street view on Safari (Mac) shows a bunch of Ttc Novas sitting in the parking lot (with a date of July of 2017) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whistler Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 3 hours ago, Oc4526 said: I wouldn't trust Google Satellite views as they tend to be dated For example, street view on Safari (Mac) shows a bunch of Ttc Novas sitting in the parking lot (with a date of July of 2017) Very true... also I just noticed this pic on another thread here that shows a TTC Nova hybrid in their new livery and it does have red that extends over the roof (or "forehead") at the front of the bus, so those ones I saw on satellite could just be TTC units. Either way, now that its January, I guess that means we should be seeing the new OC Transpo Nova's in the flesh soon enough, since from the early announcement it sounded like they were expecting to take the first 2 units this month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STO_1601 Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 42 minutes ago, whistler said: Either way, now that its January, I guess that means we should be seeing the new OC Transpo Nova's in the flesh soon enough, since from the early announcement it sounded like they were expecting to take the first 2 units this month. @anyfong confirmed with me the other day that there are none at the factory right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oc4526 Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 minute ago, STO_1601 said: @anyfong confirmed with me the other day that there are none at the factory right now. That doesn't mean there's a few on the line (Inside the plant) Time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 5 hours ago, whistler said: I was looking at the satellite view of the Novabus factory using Google maps on my phone and there are at least 4 buses parked around their factory that look like they have that new OC Transpo livery (you can see the red extending over the roof on the front end of the bus). I have no idea when that satellite image was taken... but they only seem to be there on the Google maps PHONE app satellite view. When I looked at the same factory on satellite image using Google maps on a PC, it was a different image and only had all white buses and some STM buses (pretty crazy what you can see using the 3d image on Google maps for PC. Included what I saw on my phone... not sure for sure if they are OC buses but I can't think of any other systems with a red nose like that. Those are TTC ones LFS Diesel, 3100-3369 batch most likely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enviro_1203 Posted January 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Oc4526 said: That doesn't mean there's a few on the line (Inside the plant) Time will tell. I have 3 interior photos of 4602 at the plant. The bus was fully built a month ago and also had the transfer printer and radio installed. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wt_enthusiast_photos Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 5 hours ago, Enviro_1203 said: I have 3 interior photos of 4602 at the plant. The bus was fully built a month ago and also had the transfer printer and radio installed. Can you share the photos ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enviro_1203 Posted January 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 3 hours ago, bus is coming 1965 said: Can you share the photos ? I will not be sharing the photos, as I am not sure who the original photographer is, I cannot ask whoever it was to post them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STO_1601 Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 10 hours ago, Enviro_1203 said: I will not be sharing the photos, as I am not sure who the original photographer is, I cannot ask whoever it was to post them. Do you know at least what type of rear doors it has? sensor or push bar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enviro_1203 Posted January 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 3 hours ago, STO_1601 said: Do you know at least what type of rear doors it has? sensor or push bar? Push bars are present! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudebrains Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 4 hours ago, Enviro_1203 said: Push bars are present! YESSSSS! I hate sensor doors (and pushbars give you something to hold onto AND you actually feel good for "holding the door" for the person behind you getting off)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Enviro_1203 Posted January 15, 2019 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 Here are 3 photos I have received of the new Novas... 13 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCCheetos Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 I still have mixed feelings about the livery although it'll probably end up growing on me, but wow that's a nice (couple of) shiny bus(es). Thank you for sharing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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