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5 hours ago, MCIBUS said:

Any speculation or guesses  in which 6 coach they might  be? 

I know originally their were like 4. Wilsons,Pacific Western/Ebus,Kasper,Maritime Bus.

Not sure what other 2 could be? Maybe Rider Express and Ontario Northland?? Possibly not sure. 

 

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9 hours ago, roeco said:

I know originally their were like 4. Wilsons,Pacific Western/Ebus,Kasper,Maritime Bus.

Not sure what other 2 could be? Maybe Rider Express and Ontario Northland?? Possibly not sure. 

 

Zero chance it would be Ontario Northland, as they are already subsidized by nature of being an agency of the Government of Ontario. They also directly compete along the same corridors as Kasper, so I don't see the two companies cooperating in any venture.

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15 hours ago, roeco said:

I know originally their were like 4. Wilsons,Pacific Western/Ebus,Kasper,Maritime Bus.

Not sure what other 2 could be? Maybe Rider Express and Ontario Northland?? Possibly not sure. 

 

Found this on my Facebook feed 

Rider Express Transportation

   Rider Express is coming to Ontario and Quebec!
After the official announcement by Greyhound shutting down its operations, Rider Express is stepping in to provide safe & reliable transportation across Canada.
Stay tuned by visiting us at www.riderexpress.ca for updates!
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It'll interesting to see which routes they run in Ontario?

 

Further to my previous post on the 6 companies I suspect the 4 mention  by Articulated & roeco

Wilsons(Western Canada), Pacific Western/Ebus(Western Canada/Ontario), Kasper(Western Canada/Ontario), Maritime Bus(Maritimes)or maybe Arcadian(I think that's what their called-Maitimes/Quebec), Rider Express(Ontario) and possibly Orleans Express(Quebec)

Assuming those are the companies(not saying they are) I see this as a possible scenario  layout:

Wilson, Pacific Western/E Bus, , Kasper , Rider Express(Western Canada) to Ontario(not sure which will come to Ottawa), then Orleans Express Ottawa to Quebec City, then Maritimes Bus Quebec City to the Maritimes.

 

Not sure those are the companies or the routes Coast To Coast? Just a guess?

 

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11 hours ago, MCIBUS said:

It'll interesting to see which routes they run in Ontario?

Not sure those are the companies or the routes Coast To Coast? Just a guess?

 

From what I’ve seen on a few of the Rider Express Facebook posts/map

Rider Express is working on a agreement with Ontario Northland to offer through tickets between Winnipeg/Sudbury/Ottawa and Rider express will offer routes between Windsor/Toronto/Ottawa/Montreal.

They are also waiting on Government regulatory approval In Ont/Quebec.  

Here’s the route map from Rider Express’s Facebook page. 
Red is Ont Northland 

Blue is Rider Express. 

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Been a minute since there’s been any news on this front…

A new company called The Canada Bus is launching a pair of routes in Alberta. One runs Calgary- Red Deer - Edmonton and the other runs Calgary - Banff - Canmore. They are not receiving public funds but are using some space at the transit centers along the way. 
 

https://globalnews.ca/news/8140230/alberta-bus-service-calgary-edmonton-banff/

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56 minutes ago, ns8401 said:

Been a minute since there’s been any news on this front…

A new company called The Canada Bus is launching a pair of routes in Alberta. One runs Calgary- Red Deer - Edmonton and the other runs Calgary - Banff - Canmore. They are not receiving public funds but are using some space at the transit centers along the way. 
 

https://globalnews.ca/news/8140230/alberta-bus-service-calgary-edmonton-banff/

Yeah not sure how long their gonna last...was another co that tried a service last summer(Snow Travels) seems to have not made much headway. Calgary to Edmonton corridor has plenty of choices and  competition too 4 seperate companies operate on the corridor, so def no need for another co. Biggest thing is u need deep pockets, brand recognition and convenient timing.

 

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On 11/3/2021 at 8:51 PM, ns8401 said:

Coldshot now says it’s future is in doubt:

https://edmontonjournal.com/business/local-business/alberta-western-canada-covid-19-intercity-bus-company-edmonton-financial-woes-business/wcm/6e913b04-ddfc-4029-80a4-8d558acc6d71/amp/

You notice the article only mentions passengers!  Cold shot has a very large Parcel Express division which is flourishing and even just recently expanded into Saskatchewan.

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13 hours ago, roeco said:

You notice the article only mentions passengers!  Cold shot has a very large Parcel Express division which is flourishing and even just recently expanded into Saskatchewan.

The main point of a bus is passengers.  Freight started as someone figuring out they could sell that empty space underneath. So if the parcel express part of their business survives they can get some delivery vans or something. But if the profits from it are being eaten by costs from the buses then the whole thing might die. For that part of the world it’s probably better for everybody if the package division survived.

 

if they already run some alternative equipment for just packages then please let us know.

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On 11/5/2021 at 10:58 AM, ns8401 said:

The main point of a bus is passengers.  Freight started as someone figuring out they could sell that empty space underneath. So if the parcel express part of their business survives they can get some delivery vans or something. But if the profits from it are being eaten by costs from the buses then the whole thing might die. For that part of the world it’s probably better for everybody if the package division survived.

 

if they already run some alternative equipment for just packages then please let us know.

Oh yes they run alot of alt equipment for packages. They have many dedicated freight only runs actually more than passenger runs. They also run a 3 ton between Edmonton and Calgary a 5 ton between Edmonton and Gp and a 5 ton between Edmonton and Saskatoon. Theirs several parcel only runs out of Edmonton/Calgary/Gp and Red Deer. Also lots they operate with smaller vehicles too. They have just expanded their parcel network to include most of Saskatchewan. Theirs very few places in NE BC Ab and Sask u cant ship too. And they also have many large contracts.

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2 hours ago, roeco said:

Oh yes they run alot of alt equipment for packages. They have many dedicated freight only runs actually more than passenger runs. They also run a 3 ton between Edmonton and Calgary a 5 ton between Edmonton and Gp and a 5 ton between Edmonton and Saskatoon. Theirs several parcel only runs out of Edmonton/Calgary/Gp and Red Deer. Also lots they operate with smaller vehicles too. They have just expanded their parcel network to include most of Saskatchewan. Theirs very few places in NE BC Ab and Sask u cant ship too. And they also have many large contracts.

Then it’s their passenger side that is in trouble. Very interesting. Do their buses haul any freight underneath?

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14 hours ago, ns8401 said:

Then it’s their passenger side that is in trouble. Very interesting. Do their buses haul any freight underneath?

Well kinda. Same with Greyhound, seperate the two one carries the other so why not ask for money then they both do well. Only Edmonton-Peace River/Cold Lake and Fort McMurray plus Gp-Ft St John use 13 seater and carry freight in back. Edmonton to Calgary and Grande Prairie are usually 20 seat (Gp sometimes is 13 on one schedule). Red Arrow started Doing Ed-Gp did 1 run for 6 months then 2 then back down to 1 then when covid hit they were 3 days/week then they bailed. Ridership was not as good as they had expected.

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On 1/12/2022 at 11:48 AM, dev161 said:

Anyone know who is operating the Orange X3-45 on a line run to Ottawa from the 401 ? I have been seen it a lot lately, it is usually parked along Innes rd across from where Ride Express parks their buses. 

I’ve seen unknown Orange X3-45 in downtown Ottawa driving in King Edward at King Edward and Rideau intersection yesterday.

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On 2/8/2022 at 12:04 AM, Megabus Rider said:

That's a former Angel Tours Coach. It was wrapped for both Casino Rama and Georgian Downs Casino.

It's actually ex Ontario Northland 5215, contracted through Vaapo Inc. who are contracted to run the BookARide service.

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