OC Transpo/STO Fan Posted July 7, 2018 Report Share Posted July 7, 2018 1 hour ago, littlewill1166 said: Here's a photo It barely shows the Vision system. It was so bad that I gave up finding it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curlingteam333 Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 and there is also with stop announcements where this would say” stop requested “ and also include the current time as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAT_28 Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 34 minutes ago, curlingteam333 said: and there is also with stop announcements where this would say” stop requested “ and also include the current time as well. There is also a new voice for the stop announcements Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leylandvictory2 Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 It maybe slightly different than the Vision system being installed. The photos shows the Vision prototype on the slow box and last photo is obviously from the Nova bus. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leylandvictory2 Posted July 12, 2018 Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 Vision Training for eglinton drivers will start on august Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bus_Medic Posted July 12, 2018 Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 Installs have been pushed back to at least then too. So much for my summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTCBusfan21 Posted July 12, 2018 Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 Is every bus getting the vision system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bus_Medic Posted July 12, 2018 Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 Everything that’s going to live past April 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transit geek Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 4 hours ago, Bus_Medic said: Everything that’s going to live past April 2019. Unless I'm mistaken, that would without doubt include the entire fleet of Flexity streetcars. Wonder how they'd be able to fit the VISION terminal unit where the TRUMPs are now without wasting space behind. Surely at one point BBD will start delivering cars with VISION installed instead of having the TTC retrofit TRUMPs in the interim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bus_Medic Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 7 minutes ago, Transit geek said: Unless I'm mistaken, that would without doubt include the entire fleet of Flexity streetcars. Wonder how they'd be able to fit the VISION terminal unit where the TRUMPs are now without wasting space behind. Surely at one point BBD will start delivering cars with VISION installed instead of having the TTC retrofit TRUMPs in the interim. Not my department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3G Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 made sarcastic comment, thought the better of it, please delete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtrazsteve Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 3 hours ago, Transit geek said: Unless I'm mistaken, that would without doubt include the entire fleet of Flexity streetcars. Wonder how they'd be able to fit the VISION terminal unit where the TRUMPs are now without wasting space behind. Surely at one point BBD will start delivering cars with VISION installed instead of having the TTC retrofit TRUMPs in the interim. I'm pretty sure both Novas and Flexity's don't come with them installed.They don't produce the unit anymore instead they are ripped off of the slowboxes and installed temporary. You guys are overthinking things. Just relax, it's not the end of the world if the Vision unit isn't installed in the same place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leylandvictory2 Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 3 hours ago, Xtrazsteve said: I'm pretty sure both Novas and Flexity's don't come with them installed.They don't produce the unit anymore instead they are ripped off of the slowboxes and installed temporary. You guys are overthinking things. Just relax, it's not the end of the world if the Vision unit isn't installed in the same place. correct. Nova doesn't come with a trump unit when they are delivered. The CIS shop technicians come and install them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallspy Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 11 hours ago, Transit geek said: Unless I'm mistaken, that would without doubt include the entire fleet of Flexity streetcars. Wonder how they'd be able to fit the VISION terminal unit where the TRUMPs are now without wasting space behind. Surely at one point BBD will start delivering cars with VISION installed instead of having the TTC retrofit TRUMPs in the interim. How would they run the streetcar service without VISION? CIS will not exist after April 2019, as there will be no means of it communicating. The only thing that's mounted on the dash of the car is the head unit - the rest of the unit is mounted in the electrical cabinet. The VISION install will no doubt be the same. While you are likely right about Bombardier installing VISION, that would require a change-order to the contract, and we haven't seen one yet. 4 hours ago, leylandvictory2 said: correct. Nova doesn't come with a trump unit when they are delivered. The CIS shop technicians come and install them Not CIS, but they are coming with VISION pre-installed. That's why none of the new ones have been in service until now. Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bus_Medic Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 6 hours ago, leylandvictory2 said: correct. Nova doesn't come with a trump unit when they are delivered. The CIS shop technicians come and install them The wire harnesses were pre installed however, as they are now for the vision system on the 3100s now piling up at arrow. that’s part of the overall vision reliability issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dowlingm Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 Oops. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MK78 Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 3 hours ago, dowlingm said: Oops. Well that makes sense what all that fustercluck was about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bus_Medic Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 Finally got my formal letter to change locations and commence the project. Going to be at Wilson to begin on Tuesday. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ontario_Transit Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Bus_Medic said: Finally got my formal letter to change locations and commence the project. Going to be at Wilson to begin on Tuesday. Were you not at Malvern previously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bus_Medic Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 Yes. And I intend to return there once the project is complete. I’m doing this only for the off days, to improve my family’s quality of life. Nothing else. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmward Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 Havent really been following vision as much, but im pretty sure 1250 has it. I just rode it; it had different announcements inside and out and a bus info screen next to the driver. Its on the 127 right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTC-Driver Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 You can see it on 3127 at arrow road 99 route in the morning and 84 Sheppard 6 run in the afternoon , it was on the road this week everyday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transit geek Posted July 21, 2018 Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 On 7/19/2018 at 7:38 PM, jmward said: im pretty sure 1250 has it. I just rode it; it had different announcements inside and out and a bus info screen next to the driver. Don't confuse this with the new synthesized announcements used for newly added stops using the old system. I rode the 185 a week ago from Don Mills to Pape and only one stop was announced with the pre-recorded human voice. I find this is weird, since all of the stops were already used by the 25, but since the existing announcements did not mention "this is an express vehicle", they decided to remake them entirely rather than simply taking a snippet of this otherwise stock phrase. Also, I believe the exterior announcements have always been synthesized (generated by the Luminator sign controller, hence the replacement of the old ones without the LCDs). The Wiki page has not noted this as a VISION test bus, but if anyone can confirm with photo or video evidence I will update it appropriately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmward Posted July 21, 2018 Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 4 hours ago, Transit geek said: Don't confuse this with the new synthesized announcements used for newly added stops using the old system. I rode the 185 a week ago from Don Mills to Pape and only one stop was announced with the pre-recorded human voice. I find this is weird, since all of the stops were already used by the 25, but since the existing announcements did not mention "this is an express vehicle", they decided to remake them entirely rather than simply taking a snippet of this otherwise stock phrase. Also, I believe the exterior announcements have always been synthesized (generated by the Luminator sign controller, hence the replacement of the old ones without the LCDs). The Wiki page has not noted this as a VISION test bus, but if anyone can confirm with photo or video evidence I will update it appropriately. Darn, I coulda taken a picture, but I dont like taking photos of the operator and related gear up close and all that. The trump unit was missing and there was a flat screen monitor with a schematic of a bus on it. The bus would announce "stop requested" over the internal LED display, (and sometimes the time) along with the next stop name, same as the 31xx. Hopefully that's clear enough. Yeah, I didn't see it marked as a vision bus, so that's why I posted. Would this be an early install and no longer a test vehicle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelvin3157 Posted July 21, 2018 Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 42 minutes ago, jmward said: Darn, I coulda taken a picture, but I dont like taking photos of the operator and related gear up close and all that. The trump unit was missing and there was a flat screen monitor with a schematic of a bus on it. The bus would announce "stop requested" over the internal LED display, (and sometimes the time) along with the next stop name, same as the 31xx. Hopefully that's clear enough. Yeah, I didn't see it marked as a vision bus, so that's why I posted. Would this be an early install and no longer a test vehicle? Based on your experience and anecdote, it is indeed a VISION unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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