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TTC's CAD/AVL "Vision" System

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Discuss the CAD/AVL "Vision" System here.

Vehicles with VISION installed:

1000, 1006

1200, 1202-1207, 1211-1216, 1218, 1220-1221, 1226-1228, 1230, 1233, 1235-1237, 1241, 1247, 1249-1250, 1252-1253, 1259, 1262, 1264, 1271-1272, 1275, 1285, 1287-1288, 1420

1603, 1614

All 3100s

8026

8336

8406

9001

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5 hours ago, leylandvictory2 said:

Mount dennis buses will be the first one to get them.

Not quite.

Here's the list of buses above, sorted by their current divisions as per the Wiki:

Mount Dennis: 1006

Malvern: 1206-1207, 1212-1213, 1216, 1218, 1220, 1230, 1235, 1247

Eglinton: 7592

Birchmount: 7706, 7708

Queensway: 8026

Wilson: 8336

Arrow Road: 8406

As you can see, at least one vehicle from every bus division has VISION installed. Birchmount and Malvern are the only divisions with more than one VISION test vehicle, and Malvern is the only with at least three. Considering Malvern has ten such vehicles, compared to eight in the other divisions combined, it's highly likely that it'll be the first division to deploy them in revenue service.

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19 minutes ago, benz.citaro.fan said:

What will happen to the Trump units?

Scrap.  They are ancient.

1 hour ago, Transit geek said:

Not quite.

Here's the list of buses above, sorted by their current divisions as per the Wiki:

Mount Dennis: 1006

Malvern: 1206-1207, 1212-1213, 1216, 1218, 1220, 1230, 1235, 1247

Eglinton: 7592

Birchmount: 7706, 7708

Queensway: 8026

Wilson: 8336

Arrow Road: 8406

As you can see, at least one vehicle from every bus division has VISION installed. Birchmount and Malvern are the only divisions with more than one VISION test vehicle, and Malvern is the only with at least three. Considering Malvern has ten such vehicles, compared to eight in the other divisions combined, it's highly likely that it'll be the first division to deploy them in revenue service.

I guess there is a change of plans.

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Mount Dennis will be first. 

And the “mini fleet” of 20 odd vehicles will be run together for some months before they turn the guys loose to retrofit the whole division.

any stragglers kicking around will be shifted there shortly.

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1 hour ago, dowlingm said:

What about the streetcar fleet?

Well, clearly moving them to mount Dennis presents a logistical challenge.

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14 hours ago, Transit geek said:

Not quite.

Here's the list of buses above, sorted by their current divisions as per the Wiki:

Mount Dennis: 1006

Malvern: 1206-1207, 1212-1213, 1216, 1218, 1220, 1230, 1235, 1247

Eglinton: 7592

Birchmount: 7706, 7708

Queensway: 8026

Wilson: 8336

Arrow Road: 8406

As you can see, at least one vehicle from every bus division has VISION installed. Birchmount and Malvern are the only divisions with more than one VISION test vehicle, and Malvern is the only with at least three. Considering Malvern has ten such vehicles, compared to eight in the other divisions combined, it's highly likely that it'll be the first division to deploy them in revenue service.

On the Wiki, it says that 1212 and 1213 are Mount Dennis buses, not Malvern buses.

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10 hours ago, Shemar said:

On the Wiki, it says that 1212 and 1213 are Mount Dennis buses, not Malvern buses.

Apparently so. That's a typo on the Mount Dennis Division Wiki page that I had to fix. (Also had to add 1219)

Anyways, that being said, the corrected list should read as follows:

Mount Dennis: 1006, 1212-1213 (3 total)

Malvern: 1206-1207, 1216, 1218, 1220, 1230, 1235, 1247 (8 total)

Other divisions: 7592 (EG),  7706, 7708 (BI), 8026 (QW), 8336 (WI), 8406 (AR) (6 total)

P.S. has anyone really been monitoring fleet movements and updating the pages about the bus allocated by garage as well as the batch details?

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I don't think 1212 and 1213 actually moved to MtD. I remember someone reported them as MtD because they were showing up at the garage on a tracker, even though that was actually when they were first outfitted with VISION.

Point being, I'm pretty sure they're still Malvern buses.

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21 hours ago, TransitfanJW said:

I don't think 1212 and 1213 actually moved to MtD. I remember someone reported them as MtD because they were showing up at the garage on a tracker, even though that was actually when they were first outfitted with VISION.

Point being, I'm pretty sure they're still Malvern buses.

All the CAD/AVL/Vision buses are considered Mt Dennis buses for the time being. They are running out of the division for testing and we have to repair them every time an issue arises (I have personally have had to work on 8336, 8406, 8026 and most of the hybrids including 1212 and 1213) in the past few weeks. All the months of sitting around have not been kind to them (especially the hybrids) and now that they are being used again, lots of issues are becoming apparent. The point is, there is no reason to argue over where they are based out of for the foreseeable future. Also, the OG VII's which were outfitted as test buses are not at Mt Dennis and have not been for months. I believe they may have been scrapped.

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36 minutes ago, BusFanForever said:

All the CAD/AVL/Vision buses are considered Mt Dennis buses for the time being. They are running out of the division for testing and we have to repair them every time an issue arises (I have personally have had to work on 8336, 8406, 8026 and most of the hybrids including 1212 and 1213) in the past few weeks. All the months of sitting around have not been kind to them (especially the hybrids) and now that they are being used again, lots of issues are becoming apparent. The point is, there is no reason to argue over where they are based out of for the foreseeable future. Also, the OG VII's which were outfitted as test buses are not at Mt Dennis and have not been for months. I believe they may have been scrapped.

I belive 7708 was at hillcrest ready for scrap. However I will check again.

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On 12/8/2017 at 10:33 PM, BusFanForever said:

All the CAD/AVL/Vision buses are considered Mt Dennis buses for the time being. They are running out of the division for testing and we have to repair them every time an issue arises (I have personally have had to work on 8336, 8406, 8026 and most of the hybrids including 1212 and 1213) in the past few weeks. All the months of sitting around have not been kind to them (especially the hybrids) and now that they are being used again, lots of issues are becoming apparent. The point is, there is no reason to argue over where they are based out of for the foreseeable future. Also, the OG VII's which were outfitted as test buses are not at Mt Dennis and have not been for months. I believe they may have been scrapped.

The question is, will these CAD/AVL units be trackable on NextBus? I'm sure they are still using the CIS/Trump units by now.

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Arrow commenced training on the VISION buses on January 22. Later this year into 2019, Arrow will be getting 230 new Nova buses with the new VISION unit.

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1 hour ago, 38 Highland Creek said:

It's a bus garage, not a carhouse.

Congratulations, you've just uncovered the secrets of Mount Dennis being a bus garage, how does that make you feel? Special, in a way?

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9 hours ago, Kelvin3157 said:

Congratulations, you've just uncovered the secrets of Mount Dennis being a bus garage, how does that make you feel? Special, in a way?

Don’t bother. He doesn’t get sarcasm. It was supposed to be a joke.

also doesn’t get that it was posted over 8 weeks ago.

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Arrow Road has the following buses stationed there for the CAD/AVL installation:

#1631, #1639, #1651, #1682, #8124, #8144, #8161

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