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2017 Alexander Dennis Enviro 500 trial

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17 hours ago, TranslinkKid said:

I recall seeing a photo of 1009 with a triple bike rack. Any reason why it was switched with a double bike rack?

Headlights? (Same reason the LFRs use that custom double bike rack.) Was it a standard double rack, or the custom one used on the LFRs?

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13 hours ago, GORDOOM said:

Headlights? (Same reason the LFRs use that custom double bike rack.) Was it a standard double rack, or the custom one used on the LFRs?

Pretty sure it is a standard double rack.

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13 hours ago, GORDOOM said:

Headlights? (Same reason the LFRs use that custom double bike rack.) Was it a standard double rack, or the custom one used on the LFRs?

Then I wanna say that perhaps TransLink doesn't want to give the impression that if they were to actually go and order them, that they would be able to carry 3 bikes (rather than the standard two).

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6 hours ago, Express691 said:

Then I wanna say that perhaps TransLink doesn't want to give the impression that if they were to actually go and order them, that they would be able to carry 3 bikes (rather than the standard two).

If that were true, they’d probably remove the USB charging ports too.

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23 minutes ago, Citaro said:

If that were true, they’d probably remove the USB charging ports too.

Or at least de-activate them. Thats what happened when I tried charging my tablet on 1008 around 1 week ago. Wouldnt work.

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On 12/9/2017 at 3:02 PM, LegoNovaLFS2001 said:

Well, since we are going to bring up the Altoona report...

 

  • The Altoona report indicates there are 87 USSC seats in the Enviro 500. The wiki says there's 86 of 4ONE Aries and Lazzerini seating, so there is some proof of the engine being refit to have an ISX. It has a larger liter displacement than the ISL9, and bus builders/transit companies have been known to reconfigure the interior of a bus to support a new engine (An example is Montebello Bus Lines of California: They had sent their 1991 RTS to Complete Coach works to be refitted with Detroit Diesel Series 50 engines, and the rear seating was raised to support the size of the Series 50 engine. Additionally, nearly every bus with the ISM engine has received a body extension/modification to support the size).  

USSC is now 4ONE, most use the names interchangeably.

Meanwhile, the count is off by one... that is not "proof of the engine being refit to have an ISX."

The S50 repowers on vehicles meant to take a V-style engine were among the only repowers I'm aware of that required a seating configuration change (due to the giant cylinders configured straight versus more, smaller cylinders in a V configuration). This made the S50 a very tall engine... I would not use this unique engine and the handful of repowers a decade and a half ago as "evidence."

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10 hours ago, northwesterner said:

USSC is now 4ONE, most use the names interchangeably.

Meanwhile, the count is off by one... that is not "proof of the engine being refit to have an ISX."

The S50 repowers on vehicles meant to take a V-style engine were among the only repowers I'm aware of that required a seating configuration change (due to the giant cylinders configured straight versus more, smaller cylinders in a V configuration). This made the S50 a very tall engine... I would not use this unique engine and the handful of repowers a decade and a half ago as "evidence."

 

I don't see why you chose to continue a debate that was settled over a week ago. Unless you were late to the party, your response was unnecessary. 

 

But, while people still see point to come here, my point was that the change in overall capacity suggests the bus was returned to Alexander Dennis and was reconfigured to have an ISX. Since you seem to love my evidence, here's some more for you:

  •  A charter company by the name of MARTZ (from Camden, NJ, if I remember correctly)has had a handful of MCI E models rebuilt at Atlantic Detroit Diesel to use a Series 60 with an Allison transmission (previously CAT C13/ZF Astronic). To counter my point and to somewhat agree with yours, the few repowers done within the last 10-20 years have not really required an interior change, because the engine used for repowering fits in the cavity reserved for it (NYCMTA #4899 is an example).

 

  • Another model that has required modifications for an engine that may not fit is the Orion V. Buses with the Series 50 engine equipped had the middle portion of seats removed to better support the height of the engine, as you say.

 

  • Another example is Greater Bridgeport Transit, of Bridgeport, CT. All of their LF series buses were repowered to utilize the ISL (previously Series 50 EGR). Some more of my "evidence" that could support the idea that an engine of a somewhat larger size could be fit into a transit bus.

 

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5 hours ago, LegoNovaLFS2001 said:

 

I don't see why you chose to continue a debate that was settled over a week ago. Unless you were late to the party, your response was unnecessary. 

I read through the responses before and after in the thread, and there is no evidence of the debate being "settled." 

I'm not new here. I don't make posts for the sake of increasing my post count. If I felt like replying, then I determined that my response was necessary.

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