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On 2/24/2023 at 3:20 PM, Kelvin3157 said:

P1 at Sherbourne EB

Edit: cleared up quick, was a rescue

It was a VSA but they pulled up the victim anyway and took him to the hospital still VSA. they were about to call the coroner, and in that case the victim has to remain, but they must have had some hope of saving him.

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7 minutes ago, MK78 said:

It was a VSA but they pulled up the victim anyway and took him to the hospital still VSA. they were about to call the coroner, and in that case the victim has to remain, but they must have had some hope of saving him.

Any idea why it was closed from Woodbine-St George. That's an awful lot of distance to be covered by the 5 or 6 shuttle buses they dispatched the entire time

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52 minutes ago, CJ. said:

Any idea why it was closed from Woodbine-St George. That's an awful lot of distance to be covered by the 5 or 6 shuttle buses they dispatched the entire time

I didnt hear the reason, but probably some kind of switch issues at Broadview where the turnback would have normally been. At one time I heard there was 100 shuttle buses ordered.

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27 minutes ago, MK78 said:

I didnt hear the reason, but probably some kind of switch issues at Broadview where the turnback would have normally been. At one time I heard there was 100 shuttle buses ordered.

The first shuttle bus arrived at the terminal shuttle station Woodbine, 40 minutes after the closure was announced. Perhaps most were coming from afar or from the terminus? I don't recall shuttle buses being dispatched at a random station throughout most closures unless its a terminus

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2 hours ago, MK78 said:

It was a VSA but they pulled up the victim anyway and took him to the hospital still VSA. they were about to call the coroner, and in that case the victim has to remain, but they must have had some hope of saving him.

What does VSA stand for in this context? I tried googling it, and only found things like Vehicle Stability Assist, which can't be it.

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19 minutes ago, 81-717 said:

What does VSA stand for in this context? I tried googling it, and only found things like Vehicle Stability Assist, which can't be it.

It means Vital Signs Absent. It's a term used by first responders, TTC personnel use it as well when referring to someone who is injured without vital signs.

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Another P1 on the BD today (Yonge), but it doesnt seem serious just a drunk that bounced off the side of the train. Turnbacks once again from St. George to Woodbine, so it suggests that the Broadview crossover is not usable.

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1 hour ago, MK78 said:

Another P1 on the BD today (Yonge), but it doesnt seem serious just a drunk that bounced off the side of the train. Turnbacks once again from St. George to Woodbine, so it suggests that the Broadview crossover is not usable.

I think the power cut actually reaches to the east of Broadview hence the crossover can’t be used.

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Why weren't/aren't subway lines built with crossovers before & after every station (wherever possible), to allow trains to turn back at any station & only cut service between 2 adjacent stations rather than a large block of stations (same with power cuts affecting only 1 station & its vicinity, rather than a block spanning several stations)?

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39 minutes ago, 81-717 said:

Why weren't/aren't subway lines built with crossovers before & after every station (wherever possible), to allow trains to turn back at any station & only cut service between 2 adjacent stations rather than a large block of stations (same with power cuts affecting only 1 station & its vicinity, rather than a block spanning several stations)?

I can think of some reasons! Can you?

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55 minutes ago, 81-717 said:

Why weren't/aren't subway lines built with crossovers before & after every station (wherever possible), to allow trains to turn back at any station & only cut service between 2 adjacent stations rather than a large block of stations (same with power cuts affecting only 1 station & its vicinity, rather than a block spanning several stations)?

Complexity and extra maintenance is probably why they didnt do it.

 

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I don't think there's any rail network in the world which has crossovers before and after every station. At any rate it must be exceptionally uncommon, with good reason, as each switch adds more complexity and another point of failure.

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On 2/26/2023 at 1:55 PM, Kelvin3157 said:

I think the power cut actually reaches to the east of Broadview hence the crossover can’t be used.

Are you sure? For as frequently as they have issues at Yonge you'd think the power cut would be configured as such that turnbacks would be possible at Broadview, and shuttle buses only from St. George to Broadview.

I'll have to pay better attention next time there's an issue at Yonge with turnbacks.

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1 hour ago, MK78 said:

Are you sure? For as frequently as they have issues at Yonge you'd think the power cut would be configured as such that turnbacks would be possible at Broadview, and shuttle buses only from St. George to Broadview.

I'll have to pay better attention next time there's an issue at Yonge with turnbacks.

When the P1 at Sherbourne happened power was cut there and I heard on the radio the cut affected east of Broadview.

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53 minutes ago, Kelvin3157 said:

When the P1 at Sherbourne happened power was cut there and I heard on the radio the cut affected east of Broadview.

It could be, i just dont think that's very efficient, especially that the viaduct is kind of a natural dividing point. And I do remember hearing in the past about the switch issues at Broadview and why turnbacks were extended to Woodbine. Thats why I was guessing why it might have happned now.

It would be nice if we could find the official power cut zones.

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