TTC Delays and Disruptions

[Bus_Medic]

https://www.statista.com/chart/20616/key-developments-since-portugal-decriminalized-drugs/

[81-717]

On 12/11/2022 at 9:04 AM, Ed T. said:

Boy, that's a good question. Here's an idea! You could investigate it!

Sure I'll play.

Here's a couple articles from blogTO (which many people here don't like, but since you brought it up yourself with that teacher story, I figured you'd give at least some credibility to other articles from the same source):

https://www.blogto.com/city/2022/06/violent-incidents-people-toronto-freaked-out-ttc/

https://www.blogto.com/city/2022/05/ttc-security-incidents-graphed-highlights-rising-danger/

Clearly something must have changed compared to the 2000s & most of the 2010s (either the "wave" of incidents is real, or it has been a plateau the whole time, but was previously underreported for whatever reason). While the wave seemed particularly bad throughout the first half of 2022, the second half seemed to have settled down, until now anyway.

I know that not all such incidents have to do with addiction, especially now that I'm more informed on what safe injection sites actually are and how they work. My point was simply that if someone's posing a threat to you (addict, mental patient, or otherwise), you'd most likely be too busy trying to save yourself to care about anything else. For your sake I hope neither you nor anyone else here ever has to go through that.

PS: while I understand the anger of the person in the comment to the article, I don't necessarily condone or encourage doing what he suggested, especially since the suspect is in custody and is entitled to a fair trial. However, if the victim had killed her attacker in self-defense (and part of me wishes she had), most people wouldn't blame her.

[raptorjays]

Line 1 was out of service between St. george and finch.. around 8:30

Glad I was able to get off at 8:28 and on time for my work.

My other colleague got stuck and came 20 min late (She walked all the way from King to Osgoode)

[Ed T.]

16 hours ago, 81-717 said:

Sure I'll play.

Here's a couple articles from blogTO (which many people here don't like, but since you brought it up yourself with that teacher story, I figured you'd give at least some credibility to other articles from the same source):

https://www.blogto.com/city/2022/06/violent-incidents-people-toronto-freaked-out-ttc/

https://www.blogto.com/city/2022/05/ttc-security-incidents-graphed-highlights-rising-danger/

Okay. I'm not even checking the first link. First of all, "people freaking out" isn't data, and even if people were freaking out, the question is why?

I will note that a search on "blogto people freaking out" includes blogto stories on people freaking out about Cineplex fees, and also about Justin Beiber.

As far as that graph, in the story itself, we can read:

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Admitting to blogTO that he's not a professional, he says that"the goal was to put some of my work out there to get feedback so I can improve and expand my skills in data analysis. I'm not sure what TTC classifies as a security incident, so it can be hard to interpret the meaning behind it."

and

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The creator of the graph admits that there may be other limitations to his methodology, as this is really just a side project of his, but it's still some shocking data supporting observations that the TTC is exponentially more dangerous than it was just a few short years ago.

Which shows, um, that blogto need not worry about the self-admitted data issues, or even what a "security incident" might be, to cut to the clickbait that this is "shocking data".

Now, if you have some Toronto Police Service data, or Statistics Canada data on violent crime trends, I'd be more prepared to give it consideration.

Now let me go back to trolling the people who are outraged over Orion VIIs running in south Etobicoke.

[81-717]

On 12/13/2022 at 11:20 AM, Ed T. said:

Okay. I'm not even checking the first link.

Then cut me some slack and don't tell me to go investigate it in the first place.

On 12/13/2022 at 11:20 AM, Ed T. said:

Now let me go back to trolling the people who are outraged over Orion VIIs running in south Etobicoke.

Cool. Have fun doing that as well as looking through other news stories involving teachers and/or pornstars (spoiler alert: you may not like everything you'll find).

For what it's worth, here's a graph straight from the TPS website

[T3G]

6 minutes ago, 81-717 said:

Cool. Have fun doing that as well as looking through other news stories involving teachers and/or pornstars.

I mean, the teacher story was very obviously brought up as an example of how garbage journalism from grassroots "news sites" prompts big media sources to churn out garbage journalism of their own to stay competitive (intelligent, thoughtful, investigative reporting does not bring in the big bucks - fear and outrage porn does). Bringing up more garbage journalism from said grassroots "news sites" is not exactly a rebuttal, quite the opposite.

[MK78]

They are shutting down the SRT by 10am, to avoid issues with snow.

[Shaun]

Why does a broken air conditioner cause a detour?

[MK78]

3 hours ago, Shaun said:

Why does a broken air conditioner cause a detour?

 

Those aren't real. The TTC site takes a dump and shows those once in a while. I have seen variations of these since the new site went up.

[MK78]

And the TTC site service alerts have been silent since yesterday, though at least the twitter ones still are being updated. I guess there are no maintenance people checking the site on weekends.

[Kelvin3157]

P1 at Finch, no service between Finch-Sheppard-Yonge

Cleared within an hour, victim is luckily alive 

[MK78]

2 hours ago, Kelvin3157 said:

P1 at Finch, no service between Finch-Sheppard-Yonge

Cleared within an hour, victim is luckily alive 

It was an intentional act, so I don't think the person wanted this outcome.

This is why i keep saying they need to update their signage in the stations, a jump doesnt mean you'll succeed.

[Xtrazsteve]

6 hours ago, MK78 said:

It was an intentional act, so I don't think the person wanted this outcome.

This is why i keep saying they need to update their signage in the stations, a jump doesnt mean you'll succeed.

I don't think it's a good idea remind people about suicides, especially if they have a love one affected. How many daily riders would want to read that?

[tomsbuspage]

22 hours ago, MK78 said:

It was an intentional act, so I don't think the person wanted this outcome.

Believe me when I say that survival is ultimately what these people want.  They may not realise it at the time, but surviving is always better than the alternative.  My family has a history of mental illness and we have first-hand experience with a suicide attempt.

[MK78]

On 12/20/2022 at 1:45 PM, tomsbuspage said:

Believe me when I say that survival is ultimately what these people want.  They may not realise it at the time, but surviving is always better than the alternative.  My family has a history of mental illness and we have first-hand experience with a suicide attempt.

I have first hand experience with my brother committing suicide, though thankfully not by subway.

[MK78]

Any bets when the TTC suspends the Scarborough RT ahead of this mostly rain storm? Will they let it finish out tonight and just shutter it for all of tomorrow?

[Bus_Medic]

40 minutes ago, MK78 said:

Any bets when the TTC suspends the Scarborough RT ahead of this mostly rain storm? Will they let it finish out tonight and just shutter it for all of tomorrow?

Prior events are the best predictor of future behaviour. If the temperature crashes to ten below as environment Canada predicts, it won’t stay an innocuous rain event for long.

[Shaun]

40 minutes ago, Bus_Medic said:

Prior events are the best predictor of future behaviour. If the temperature crashes to ten below as environment Canada predicts, it won’t stay an innocuous rain event for long.

Previously it was supposed to start as rain/snow around 1pm. It's almost 4 and nothing has started. Thinking this whole thing is a bust and we won't get anything. 

[Bus_Medic]

11 minutes ago, Shaun said:

Previously it was supposed to start as rain/snow around 1pm. It's almost 4 and nothing has started. Thinking this whole thing is a bust and we won't get anything. 

Quoting this for posterity. 
 

To hell with what the experts in the field say. 
Doctor’s orders are bullshit too. Birds aren’t real.

[Shaun]

2 hours ago, Bus_Medic said:

Quoting this for posterity. 
 

To hell with what the experts in the field say. 
Doctor’s orders are bullshit too. Birds aren’t real.

Earth is also flat and airplanes fly using compressed air.

[Bus_Medic]

9 minutes ago, Shaun said:

Earth is also flat and airplanes fly using compressed air.

Planes DO fly using compressed air.

The pressure differential between the top versus bottom wing surfaces overcomes gravity.

[MK78]

5 hours ago, Bus_Medic said:

Prior events are the best predictor of future behaviour. If the temperature crashes to ten below as environment Canada predicts, it won’t stay an innocuous rain event for long.

Well today it's just rain, so I think they'll get away with service today, but tomorrow I wonder if they'll service the morning rush like they did last week and shut down around 10am, or not put any trains out at all.

[Shaun]

2 hours ago, Bus_Medic said:

Planes DO fly using compressed air.

The pressure differential between the top versus bottom wing surfaces overcomes gravity.

Yes they do but there are people who claim that the engines work on compressed air not jetfuel. 

[Bus_Medic]

40 minutes ago, Shaun said:

Yes they do but there are people who claim that the engines work on compressed air not jetfuel. 

That  fuel combusts with compressed air in a confined space, driving a larger compressor fan at the front of the engine that compresses that air through a duct, forcing that compressed air and expanding combustion gases aft. A jet engine won’t run without compressed air. Expanding combustion gases are only a means to spin the first forward impeller fan.

-Their terminology, not mine.

Isaac Newton’s third law takes care of the rest.

[Shaun]

2 minutes ago, Bus_Medic said:

That  fuel combusts with compressed air in a confined space, driving a larger compressor fan at the front of the engine that compresses that air through a duct, forcing that compressed air and expanding combustion gases aft. A jet engine won’t run without compressed air. Expanding combustion gases are only a means to spin the first forward impeller fan.

https://youtu.be/CXSi4GXUojo

Isaac Newton’s third law takes care of the rest.

This is what I'm talking about. https://youtu.be/ChoeC3SuD5w