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3 hours ago, armorand said:

And thats WITH the artic?! Oh wow.

Any changes for mid-Winter signup then, like extra buses on hand, or extra trips during rush hour? Or just waiting until Spring to change it?

Keep in mind that only one key on MO is using an artic. That particular trip might've been a regular bus and wouldve filled up quickly if so.

Also, I doubt we'd be seeing changes unless buses were seeing extreme overloads on every trip on a consistent basis.

Ridership can be a strange beast. Certain MP trips are often packed to the brim on some days. Those same trips are sometimes nearly empty on other days on the same day of the week. 

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3 hours ago, Transit Fan said:

Keep in mind that only one key on MO is using an artic. That particular trip might've been a regular bus and wouldve filled up quickly if so.

Also, I doubt we'd be seeing changes unless buses were seeing extreme overloads on every trip on a consistent basis.

Ridership can be a strange beast. Certain MP trips are often packed to the brim on some days. Those same trips are sometimes nearly empty on other days on the same day of the week. 

I was just about to mention, if they increased capacity on the MO with extra artics, it might take some pressure off the train in the NE, potentially enough pressure to allow for 100% three-car consists (Nenshi mentioned in an article someone posted in another thread about "running more U2's on three car consists" due to technical & age issues) and shall I dare say, two-car consists, to save mileage on some of the other LRV's. That or maybe a short-turn key or two, between Lions Park & Rundle, specifically? It might help out a little bit, with moving people between the two points, assuming the transfers happen at Rundle for the EB crushloads, and WB MAX service short-turning at Lions Park would maximize efficiency.

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38 minutes ago, armorand said:

I was just about to mention, if they increased capacity on the MO with extra artics, it might take some pressure off the train in the NE, potentially enough pressure to allow for 100% three-car consists (Nenshi mentioned in an article someone posted in another thread about "running more U2's on three car consists" due to technical & age issues) and shall I dare say, two-car consists, to save mileage on some of the other LRV's. That or maybe a short-turn key or two, between Lions Park & Rundle, specifically? It might help out a little bit, with moving people between the two points, assuming the transfers happen at Rundle for the EB crushloads, and WB MAX service short-turning at Lions Park would maximize efficiency.

I don't notice a huge change in the number of people getting off at Lions Park in the evening rush hour since the Max started up. I even get off there sometimes to return a book to the Riley library and get back on the next train sometimes, and honestly I don't notice much difference in traffic on the platform.

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42 minutes ago, chills_on_the_train said:

I don't notice a huge change in the number of people getting off at Lions Park in the evening rush hour since the Max started up. I even get off there sometimes to return a book to the Riley library and get back on the next train sometimes, and honestly I don't notice much difference in traffic on the platform.

I meant, as in short-turning the MAX on a few keys there, just so it could focus on SAIT-bound riders, mostly. Unless these crush loads are all destined beyond SAIT, for Foothills and the U of C?

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4 hours ago, Transit Fan said:

Keep in mind that only one key on MO is using an artic. That particular trip might've been a regular bus and wouldve filled up quickly if so. 

The person on Twitter is likely right when they described the vehicle as a "large" bus: Block history on Transit55 suggests the MAX Orange bus due to leave Russett Road WB at 7:39 a.m. corresponds with the key serviced by the lone artic on the route.

1 hour ago, armorand said:

[…] maybe a short-turn key or two, between Lions Park & Rundle, specifically? It might help out a little bit, with moving people between the two points, assuming the transfers happen at Rundle for the EB crushloads, and WB MAX service short-turning at Lions Park would maximize efficiency.

You remind me of something I noticed the other day. I was riding a very full Arboc and ended up standing at the front of the bus, right next to the list of destinations that can be programmed into the destination sign. Under MAX Orange, "Rundle" is listed a possible end-point. I wonder if the addition of a Brentwood-Rundle short-turn is the planned next step in the development of this route?

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12 minutes ago, downbeat said:

You remind me of something I noticed the other day. I was riding a very full Arboc and ended up standing at the front of the bus, right next to the list of destinations that can be programmed into the destination sign. Under MAX Orange, "Rundle" is listed a possible end-point. I wonder if the addition of a Brentwood-Rundle short-turn is the planned next step in the development of this route?

Correct, when the MAX routes were first introduced they programmed short turning into the signs for future use (MO Rundle and MT Heritage for example.)

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Hmm, if that artic is managing to max out and has to leave people behind, that is pretty darn good for ridership. Although that would suck having to wait 16 more minutes only for the next MO to be full as well!

From the NE, I suspect that the MO route is currently most attractive to those whose destination is either 16th Ave, SAIT, UofC or the two hospitals. These same people are probably either:

  • Living within walking distance of a MO station
  • Taking a feeder bus which takes them to Saddletowne or Rundle stations
    • This is a main one since if someone is already taking a bus to one of these two stations, they're not really going out of their way to catch the MO compared to someone who gets dropped off at a neighboring station. (See below).

However, i'm curious what the percentage of people outside this category is. For example, there's many feeder buses that intersect with the MO on 52nd St as well as connect to nearby LRT stations like Whitehorn or Mcknight. How many people heading to those NW destinations are getting off and taking the MO at 52nd St or taking the train down to Rundle, getting off and taking the MO as opposed to just taking the Blue line downtown and transferring to the Red line. At the current frequencies, the MO may not be as enticing as just taking the train if you factor in the wait time.

It sounds like a bump in frequency is warranted now. But taking the above thoughts into account, I wouldn't be surprised if a higher frequency also helps to attract additional ridership as well.

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10 hours ago, armorand said:

I meant, as in short-turning the MAX on a few keys there, just so it could focus on SAIT-bound riders, mostly. Unless these crush loads are all destined beyond SAIT, for Foothills and the U of C?

If you board a Max Orange and ride it from Brentwood to Saddletowne, you may leave Brentwood empty but the bus will immediately start to pick up people on 31st Street. And some of those people will go as far as say Martindale Bv. Short turning buses at Lions Park may help people at SAIT but will not do a whole lot for those at U of C and Foothills Hospital

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Looks like either an EB 1 or MP sideswiped another vehicle pretty hard at the transitway crossing at 26th St SE this afternoon. Not entirely surprised given the close calls I see on a regular basis at these intersections. People are really bad with obeying those no right turn restrictions used during the u-turn light phases all along 17th Ave as well. Anyway, there was a pretty big emergency and transit response, hopefully everyone was okay.

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15 hours ago, Blake M said:

8313 has lost its MAX Purple wrap

On the bright side, at least it reverts to a livery that isn't as bland and uninspiring as Winnipegs :P

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43 minutes ago, yvarushin said:

Lol 8078 is displaying 304 Stampede Park 😒😒😒😒😒

That’s the previous route number for the Stampede North Express, isn’t it?

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11 minutes ago, downbeat said:

That’s the previous route number for the Stampede North Express, isn’t it?

 

56 minutes ago, yvarushin said:

Lol 8078 is displaying 304 Stampede Park 😒😒😒😒😒

Thaaaaats riiiiight, and has been since this morning!

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