Transit Fan Posted January 1, 2019 Report Share Posted January 1, 2019 52 minutes ago, downbeat said: This happened too quickly to grab a photo … but I saw 7644 running on MAX Purple this afternoon displaying its route number. I’m guessing its older-style flip-dot electronic roll sign demands it? Every time i've seen the Max Purple serviced by one of those older buses, they've always displayed 307. Possibly a limitation of those older signs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Meu Posted January 2, 2019 Report Share Posted January 2, 2019 6 hours ago, Transit Fan said: Every time i've seen the Max Purple serviced by one of those older buses, they've always displayed 307. Possibly a limitation of those older signs? They haven't been programmed in a while, so they just display X Route X instead (for the most part). Besides, I wouldn't see a good reason for CT to reprogram them because most of the 7600s wont be around in the next 5 or 6 years. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downbeat Posted January 2, 2019 Report Share Posted January 2, 2019 2 hours ago, R. Meu said: They haven't been programmed in a while, so they just display X Route X instead (for the most part). Besides, I wouldn't see a good reason for CT to reprogram them because most of the 7600s wont be around in the next 5 or 6 years. Ah, that explains it. The bus I saw had 307 MAX PURPLE on the front and the side, and just 307 on the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick B Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 Took a few rides on the 17 Ave transitway for the first time this afternoon. My first impressions weren’t too bad. 9th Avenue to 44th Street station took me 13 minutes. Signalling is clearly an ongoing issue, particularly the ones near the 9th Avenue station and the 26th Street station. Waited an easy 2-3 minutes at those each time which made the bus considerably late. The rest of the transitway seems to function well. Station areas are well designed and I had no confusion or difficulty using the infrastructure. Bus time displays at the stations were erroneous. A Route 1 pulled up as the display indicated 20 minutes until the next Route 1 and 18 minutes until the next MAX Purple. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downbeat Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 Might the bus have been a floater? I’ve come to understand such departures don’t show up on any schedules, anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick B Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 1 minute ago, downbeat said: Might the bus have been a floater? I’ve come to understand such departures don’t show up on any schedules, anywhere. The bus appeared on Transit55. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transit Fan Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 29 minutes ago, Nick B said: Took a few rides on the 17 Ave transitway for the first time this afternoon. My first impressions weren’t too bad. 9th Avenue to 44th Street station took me 13 minutes. Signalling is clearly an ongoing issue, particularly the ones near the 9th Avenue station and the 26th Street station. Waited an easy 2-3 minutes at those each time which made the bus considerably late. The rest of the transitway seems to function well. Station areas are well designed and I had no confusion or difficulty using the infrastructure. Bus time displays at the stations were erroneous. A Route 1 pulled up as the display indicated 20 minutes until the next Route 1 and 18 minutes until the next MAX Purple. I've noticed the "real-time" displays are very hit or miss. I've been on plenty of non-floater Max Purple's that weren't super late but didn't display "Due" when the bus was at the station. Which is odd considering the real-time info in the app is relatively accurate. I would've thought the displays would be pulling info from the same source. The signals are definitely an issue still and kind of spoil what is otherwise a really great project. The stations turned out really nice and the overall improvements to the avenue are a big plus for the area. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake M Posted January 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 On the topic of the Southwest BRT, does anyone know if there will be feeder route changes in the southwest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandeWest_B35G Posted January 6, 2019 Report Share Posted January 6, 2019 10 hours ago, Blake M said: On the topic of the Southwest BRT, does anyone know if there will be feeder route changes in the southwest? I thought that's what they were doing when they changed all of those routes (when they introduced MAX Orange, Purple, and Teal) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake M Posted January 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2019 4 hours ago, Jaymaud0804 said: I thought that's what they were doing when they changed all of those routes (when they introduced MAX Orange, Purple, and Teal) Still one more to come, and in my opinion, the routes west of MacLeod need a bit of an overhaul 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gsgeek540 Posted January 6, 2019 Report Share Posted January 6, 2019 18 hours ago, Blake M said: On the topic of the Southwest BRT, does anyone know if there will be feeder route changes in the southwest? Yes. Lots in the SW are still being optioned out. Stay tuned. It sounds public consultations are to begin in the Spring. They will be noticable. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transit Fan Posted January 6, 2019 Report Share Posted January 6, 2019 Makes sense for them to want to optimize the SW bus network as well to coincide with the new MAX route. The recent changes didn't really affect much of the routes in the deep SW. Yes, there were changes to the 9 and 20 but that was more or less due to the Circle Route getting split into multiple parts. I'd expect to see a lot of changes in 2019 to the feeder routes and express buses in the area. For example, the 18 likely won't exist in its current form since it will duplicate half of the new MAX route. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transit Fan Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 Looks like an extra bus will be added to MAX Purple effective January 28th on both weekdays and weekends. Rush hour roundtrip increased from 72 to 84 minutes. Weekday midday roundtrip increased from 66 to 80 minutes. Frequency bumped from 22 to 20 minutes. Weekday evening roundtrip increased from 60 to 75 minutes. Frequency bumped from 30 to 25 minutes. All day on weekends is same as weekday evenings. https://transit55.ca/calgary/block_explorer?id=307&date=2019-01-28 https://transit55.ca/calgary/block_explorer?id=307&date=2019-02-02 Good to see an actual fix similar to what happened to the Route 1 last week (which seemed to have helped greatly). The extra time allows for some lengthier layovers at both ends at all times of day. The bump in frequency is another bonus. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancouver Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 Are there buses with signs still not programmed correctly for the Max Teal? Saw a Max Teal 7800-series bus on 37th Street SW today displaying the old 306 BRT MRU Heritage. Took me by surprise for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake M Posted January 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Vancouver said: Are there buses with signs still not programmed correctly for the Max Teal? Saw a Max Teal 7800-series bus on 37th Street SW today displaying the old 306 BRT MRU Heritage. Took me by surprise for sure. Nah the driver just punched in the destination code wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Walton Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 On my Christmas visit to Calgary I rode Max Purple from downtown to 36 Street SE. My impression of the infrastructure is that it appears to be modeled on York Region's Viva rapidways, at least along 17 Avenue SE, rather than Ottawa. The Deerfoot overpass saved my bus a good 5 minutes. When I got off at 36 I just missed 2 buses going south into Dover, but a 135 came in about 5 minutes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Meu Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 On 1/14/2019 at 6:51 PM, Blake M said: Nah the driver just punched in the destination code wrong Or if the driver likes to tinker with the destination signs 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yvarushin Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 2 hours ago, R. Meu said: Or if the driver likes to tinker with the destination signs Saw it today too. "306 BRU Heritage" Lol 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake M Posted January 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 Some random numbers have been added to the 17 Ave transitway, I assume they're mile markers from the start of the transitway. There's one on a traffic signal pole at 33 Street EB saying 2.7, 33 Street WB saying 2.6, and another i noticed at 52 Street WB saying 4.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandeWest_B35G Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 3 hours ago, Blake M said: Some random numbers have been added to the 17 Ave transitway, I assume they're mile markers from the start of the transitway. There's one on a traffic signal pole at 33 Street EB saying 2.7, 33 Street WB saying 2.6, and another i noticed at 52 Street WB saying 4.5 Probably is. According to Maps, those are the distance from 9th and Blackfoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transit Fan Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 I've noticed these signs the last couple of days as well. What would be the use of having these kind of distance markers along the route? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake M Posted January 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 7 hours ago, Transit Fan said: I've noticed these signs the last couple of days as well. What would be the use of having these kind of distance markers along the route? MAX Purple thinking it's a train? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downbeat Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 Assuming things run on time with the upcoming schedule adjustments for Routes 1 and MAX Purple, as listed below, the distribution of eastbound departures between Route 1 and MAX Purple will be far more even on weekday late-nights and weekend mornings. Effective Jan. 28, 2019 Route 1 and MAX Purple consolidated departure board Eastbound from stop 3392 SB 1st Street @ 7th Avenue S.W. (Brookfield Place) (Compiled manually from schedules listed on Calgary Transit website. Please pardon any transcription errors.) WEEKDAY AM PEAK 1 0506 1 0536 1 0551 307 0552 307 0604 1 0610 307 0616 1 0619 307 0628 1 0630 307 0640 1 0647 307 0652 1 0659 307 0704 1 0711 307 0716 1 0723 307 0728 1 0735 307 0740 1 0747 307 0752 1 0759 307 0804 1 0811 307 0816 1 0823 307 0828 1 0835 307 0840 1 0847 307 0852 1 0859 307 0908 1 0911 1 0922 307 0928 1 0934 1 0946 307 0948 WEEKDAY MIDDAY (1000-1459, departure pattern repeats) 1 xx01 307 xx08 1 xx16 307 xx28 1 xx31 1 xx46 307 xx48 WEEKDAY PM PEAK 1 1501 307 1505 307 1517 1 1520 307 1529 1 1536 307 1541 1 1548 307 1553 1 1600 307 1605 1 1612 307 1617 1 1624 307 1629 1 1636 307 1641 1 1648 307 1653 1 1700 307 1705 1 1712 307 1717 1 1724 307 1729 1 1736 307 1741 1 1748 307 1753 1 1800 307 1805 1 1812 307 1817 1 1824 307 1829 1 1836 1 1846 307 1854 1 1857 WEEKDAY EVENING 1 1907 1 1917 307 1920 1 1934 307 1943 1 1953 307 2008 1 2013 1 2033 307 2033 1 2053 307 2057 1 2112 307 2122 1 2132 307 2147 1 2151 1 2208 307 2212 1 2227 307 2237 1 2247 307 2302 1 2317 307 2327 1 2345 307 2345 307 0020 1 0022 WEEKEND 1 0600 307 0613 1 0625 307 0638 1 0650 307 0703 1 0715 307 0728 1 0740 307 0753 1 0806 307 0818 1 0835 307 0843 1 0859 307 0908 1 0918 307 0933 1 0937 1 0956 307 0958 1 1015 307 1023 1 1034 307 1048 1 1053 1 1112 307 1113 1 1131 307 1138 1 1150 307 1203 1 1209 1 1228 307 1228 1 1247 307 1253 1 1306 307 1318 1 1325 307 1343 1 1344 1 1403 307 1408 1 1422 307 1433 1 1441 307 1458 1 1500 1 1519 307 1523 1 1538 307 1548 1 1557 307 1613 1 1616 1 1635 307 1638 1 1654 307 1703 1 1713 307 1728 1 1732 1 1751 307 1753 1 1810 307 1818 1 1829 307 1843 1 1848 1 1907 307 1908 1 1926 307 1933 1 1945 307 1958 1 2004 1 2021 307 2023 1 2038 307 2048 1 2057 307 2113 1 2118 1 2143 307 2143 1 2208 1 2232 1 2257 1 2322 1 2345 1 0020 (Sat only) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downbeat Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 Looking now at westbound service … notice how Route 1 and MAX Purple will be running back-to-back in the transitway on weekend mornings. I guess this is what allows the perfectly-spaced departures from city centre, as noted in my previous message. Effective Jan. 28, 2019 Route 1 and MAX Purple consolidated departure board Westbound from stop 9817 36th Street S.E. Station (Compiled manually from schedules listed on Calgary Transit website. Please pardon any transcription errors.) WEEKDAY AM PEAK 1 0442 1 0512 1 0527 307 0534 1 0542 307 0546 1 0558 307 0558 307 0610 1 0614 307 0622 1 0629 307 0635 1 0643 307 0648 1 0655 307 0700 1 0707 307 0712 1 0719 307 0724 1 0731 307 0736 1 0743 307 0748 1 0755 307 0800 1 0807 307 0812 1 0819 307 0824 1 0831 307 0836 1 0843 307 0848 1 0855 WEEKDAY MIDDAY (0900-1459, departure pattern repeats) 307 xx00 1 xx09 307 xx20 1 xx24 1 xx39 307 xx40 1 xx54 WEEKDAY PM PEAK 307 1502 1 1507 1 1519 307 1519 1 1531 307 1536 1 1543 307 1548 1 1555 307 1600 1 1607 307 1612 1 1619 307 1624 1 1631 307 1636 1 1643 307 1648 1 1655 307 1700 1 1707 307 1712 1 1719 307 1724 1 1731 307 1736 1 1743 307 1748 1 1755 WEEKDAY EVENING 307 1800 1 1807 307 1812 1 1819 307 1824 1 1831 307 1834 1 1843 307 1845 1 1857 307 1901 1 1911 307 1918 1 1931 307 1943 1 1951 307 2008 1 2011 1 2031 307 2032 1 2051 307 2057 1 2111 307 2121 1 2131 307 2146 1 2151 1 2211 307 2211 1 2231 307 2236 1 2251 307 2301 1 2311 307 2324 1 2331 307 2354 1 0001 1 0022 (terminates City Centre) WEEKEND 1 0548 307 0548 1 0613 307 0613 1 0638 307 0638 1 0703 307 0703 1 0728 307 0728 1 0753 307 0753 1 0813 307 0818 1 0832 307 0843 1 0851 307 0908 1 0910 1 0929 307 0933 1 0948 307 0958 1 1007 307 1023 1 1026 1 1045 307 1048 1 1104 307 1113 1 1123 307 1138 1 1142 1 1201 307 1203 1 1220 307 1228 1 1239 397 1253 1 1258 1 1317 307 1318 1 1336 307 1343 1 1355 307 1408 1 1414 1 1433 307 1433 1 1452 307 1458 1 1511 307 1523 1 1530 307 1548 1 1549 1 1608 307 1613 1 1627 307 1638 1 1646 307 1703 1 1705 1 1724 307 1728 1 1743 397 1753 1 1802 307 1818 1 1821 1 1840 307 1843 1 1859 307 1908 1 1918 307 1933 1 1937 1 1955 307 1958 1 2016 307 2023 1 2041 307 2048 1 2106 307 2113 1 2131 307 2138 1 2156 307 2203 1 2221 307 2228 1 2246 1 2309 1 2334 1 0004 (terminates Bowness, Saturday) (terminates City Centre, Sunday) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transit Fan Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 The two schedules may be synced slightly better but I feel that the off peak service is kind of overkill. When a Max Purple departs and a #1 is scheduled within minutes after it (or vice versa), chances are that the trailing bus is going to be relatively empty. Since the changes were first proposed last spring, i've been opposed to the idea of having both the 1 and MAX operate in parallel in its current form. Why? Because we've seen this exact scenario years ago when the 305 used to have all day service. The 305 was ultimately cut to only peak hours due to low ridership. The problem is you can't cut frequency on the #1 too much because then the west leg will have a significant drop in service. But currently, ensuring that the #1 has adequate frequency on the west leg means that the east leg overlaps too much with the Max Purple. The other issue is that if they don't run at identical frequencies, there is always going to be overlaps at various points throughout the day. I would not be surprised if they chop the #1 in half sooner or later to allow them to properly have a trunk and branch system. The travel time from 1 St SW to Penbrooke and East Hills are pretty similar such that they could run at identical round-trip times and frequencies. For example, midday, if both routes ran at 20 minute frequencies, they could be spaced out such that it's a consistent 10 minute service along the trunk portion. Then during off-peak, 25 minutes for each route allows for 12-13 minute service along the trunk. Of course, the tradeoff is that local service along 9th Ave and in Penbrooke will be slightly worse. Route #411 could be bumped up in frequency to compensate along 9th Ave if needed. Alternatively, you could just add an extra MAX stop between 12 St and 9 Ave Station to cover that gap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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