smallspy Posted May 5, 2018 Report Share Posted May 5, 2018 14 hours ago, OCCheetos said: Several reports on the Stage 2 website have mentioned that running the Airport spur using separate trains from the mainline would be required. Using the LINTs there would certainly be feasible. Those reports stated that there were only limited times of day - rush hours, for instance - where the two services would need to be separated. Also, there is nothing precluding them from running the LINTs as pairs to make up an 80m train. In fact, that was one of the ideas much earlier on in the planning process when the Talents were still to have been kept around. Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sseguin Posted May 5, 2018 Report Share Posted May 5, 2018 Quick question. What is the length of the Talents and the LINT? The new trains are to be 80m but would be nice to compare. I guess the station lengths will be expanded as a result of the new size? And if the FLIRT trains are 80m that would mean they would be 4 cars per train, compared to the current 2, or 3 from the previous Talents? Also, the Trillium line will be double track from Bayview to the Southern terminus? And what for the Airport spur? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HB_1024 Posted May 5, 2018 Report Share Posted May 5, 2018 LINTs are 42 meters in length. I'm not sure about the Talents but they can't be much longer (if at all) as no changes were done to the platforms other than the extenders when the LINTs arrived. They say four doors, so I'd presume four cars. Platforms were to be extended anyways, as the plan for as long as I can remember was to run coupled LINTs. As far as double track...nothing is really set in stone, but there's zero chance of the whole thing being twinned with the money available to spend. It would cost far more than 80 million just to twin the bridge over the river, let alone the tunnel and any of the other bridges along the line. I'd be very surprised (although pleasantly) if they didn't just go with the status quo of single track with one or two additional passing tracks. I do believe the plan was to double track from Gladstone to Bayview however. I'd be very surprised if they did any more than a double track station for the airport spur given the low frequency it'd be running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Posted May 5, 2018 Report Share Posted May 5, 2018 24 minutes ago, HB_1024 said: LINTs are 42 meters in length. I'm not sure about the Talents but they can't be much longer (if at all) as no changes were done to the platforms other than the extenders when the LINTs arrived. They say four doors, so I'd presume four cars. Platforms were to be extended anyways, as the plan for as long as I can remember was to run coupled LINTs. As far as double track...nothing is really set in stone, but there's zero chance of the whole thing being twinned with the money available to spend. It would cost far more than 80 million just to twin the bridge over the river, let alone the tunnel and any of the other bridges along the line. I'd be very surprised (although pleasantly) if they didn't just go with the status quo of single track with one or two additional passing tracks. I do believe the plan was to double track from Gladstone to Bayview however. I'd be very surprised if they did any more than a double track station for the airport spur given the low frequency it'd be running. To see where they are adding passing tracks and/or extending them check out geoOttawa and check the box “Rail implementation Office” under more layers. It shows that most of the new line will be double tracked. They have not added the Limebank extension just yet, so Bowesville/ Earl Armstrong station might change. http://maps.ottawa.ca/geoottawa/ -Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCCheetos Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 I emailed the Stage 2 team to clarify a few things regarding the new trains. The confirmed that the new FLIRT trains will have 8 doors (per side) as shown in a previously posted picture (2 doors per car). They also said that in operation they would use 6 FLIRTs and one LINT on the mainline and then two LINTs on the Airport Link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCIBUS Posted May 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 I was just looking t the route numbers OC uses. Route 2 is Bayview to Greenboro(Stage 2 extended to what ever its suppose to go to) Route 1 is for The Confederation Line Blair To Tunneys(then Stage 2-Trim To Baseline) I see the extension to Kanata being called Route 3-Kanata to Trim I could be mistaken though. @OCCheetos Did they say exactly how many FLIRT trains we will be getting? Also who's the manufacture of these trains? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCCheetos Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 15 minutes ago, MCIBUS said: @OCCheetos Did they say exactly how many FLIRT trains we will be getting? Also who's the manufacture of these trains? Seven of them. The manufacturer is Stadler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCIBUS Posted May 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 Since there will be two different types of trains running, I can't see them running the Flirts during the weekends, since ridership is way lower then during the week. I can see them running all 6 LINTS on weekends at a reduced schedule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 20 minutes ago, MCIBUS said: Since there will be two different types of trains running, I can't see them running the Flirts during the weekends, since ridership is way lower then during the week. I can see them running all 6 LINTS on weekends at a reduced schedule. I would not assume that they would only use the LINTS on the weekend, as the ridership of the line will increase significantly, with most people (that now take the bus) from Barrhaven and Riverside South and farther using it to get downtown, as it will most likely be the terminal for many of the local routes, as people as a whole prefer riding a train then taking a bus. It will also most likely attract more people to park and ride at Limebank station, then take the train downtown for the day on the weekend. -Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flalex72 Posted May 25, 2018 Report Share Posted May 25, 2018 6 hours ago, Charlie said: I would not assume that they would only use the LINTS on the weekend, as the ridership of the line will increase significantly, with most people (that now take the bus) from Barrhaven and Riverside South and farther using it to get downtown, as it will most likely be the terminal for many of the local routes, as people as a whole prefer riding a train then taking a bus. It will also most likely attract more people to park and ride at Limebank station, then take the train downtown for the day on the weekend. -Charlie If frequency is maintained, they may be able to get away with a mixed fleet of uncoupled LINTs and FLIRTs, unlike the weekdays when only coupled LINTs would be in service. This would provide maximum flexibility for maintenance, and would reduce unnecessary wear on a trainset or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waiting for 30 Minutes Posted May 26, 2018 Report Share Posted May 26, 2018 On 5/24/2018 at 5:58 PM, MCIBUS said: I see the extension to Kanata being called Route 3-Kanata to Trim Why would a route that's many times longer overlay a shorter route following the exact same track? What about the section to Baseline? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCIBUS Posted May 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2018 10 hours ago, Waiting for 30 Minutes said: Why would a route that's many times longer overlay a shorter route following the exact same track? What about the section to Baseline? Well from Baseline to Trim would be route 2 or as it was like the 95 & kanata to Trim would be route 3 just like the 96(old)/97 is/was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Posted May 27, 2018 Report Share Posted May 27, 2018 Some ties have been put in place for the new Trillium Line platform at Bayview, with rail placed alongside. Also, along some places of the rail line replacement ties have been put next to the track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCCheetos Posted May 27, 2018 Report Share Posted May 27, 2018 46 minutes ago, Charlie said: Some ties have been put in place for the new Trillium Line platform at Bayview, with rail placed alongside. Also, along some places of the rail line replacement ties have been put next to the track. The bundles of replacement ties have been there since the fall. I think some have been replaced at Brookfield recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Posted May 27, 2018 Report Share Posted May 27, 2018 7 minutes ago, OCCheetos said: The bundles of replacement ties have been there since the fall. I think some have been replaced at Brookfield recently. Should have clarified, the ties are no longer in bundles and are placed individually next to the ties they will replace. -Charlie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCCheetos Posted May 29, 2018 Report Share Posted May 29, 2018 The track at the new Bayview platform has been assembled. Just needs ballast work done now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andreasv Posted May 30, 2018 Report Share Posted May 30, 2018 Crews were hydrovacing for new signals near the entrance to Walkley yard under the bank street overpass yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaGoose Posted May 31, 2018 Report Share Posted May 31, 2018 Does anyone know if they are still planning to shut down Line 2 next summer for Stage2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCCheetos Posted May 31, 2018 Report Share Posted May 31, 2018 58 minutes ago, CanadaGoose said: Does anyone know if they are still planning to shut down Line 2 next summer for Stage2 Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anyfong Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 On 5/24/2018 at 4:56 PM, OCCheetos said: I emailed the Stage 2 team to clarify a few things regarding the new trains. The confirmed that the new FLIRT trains will have 8 doors (per side) as shown in a previously posted picture (2 doors per car). They also said that in operation they would use 6 FLIRTs and one LINT on the mainline and then two LINTs on the Airport Link. When have they said there will be an order of FLIRT trains? I can't find it anywhere on the Stage 2 website. Edit: it's here. The axle configuration regarding the middle power car is quite similar to the ELRON trains in Estonia. http://www.stage2lrt.ca/news/city-secures-funding-to-extend-o-train-trillium-line-to-the-heart-of-riverside-south/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flalex72 Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 On 6/1/2018 at 7:49 AM, anyfong said: When have they said there will be an order of FLIRT trains? I can't find it anywhere on the Stage 2 website. Edit: it's here. The axle configuration regarding the middle power car is quite similar to the ELRON trains in Estonia. http://www.stage2lrt.ca/news/city-secures-funding-to-extend-o-train-trillium-line-to-the-heart-of-riverside-south/ Keep in mind that the train shown in the press release is shorter than the trains that are being purchased, which are actually 4 cars long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anyfong Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 My guess is that the 4-car configuration would look something like this. Instead of one door per car there would be two. Fast forward to 5:07. Also in the Estonian version the diesel engine acts as a generator, and there are electric motors in the axles at either end. And also 4:34 here. Also note multiple-unit operation, something Ottawa could consider if platform extensions could be done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCCheetos Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 There's a video of a 4-car 8-door version here, although it's the full electric variant. (Without a "power pack"). (Starts at around 1:12). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCIBUS Posted June 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 It would of been nice if they had the old Bombardier Cut of of the old trains as well as the Flints yet to arrive? Oh well maybe in a few years well have cut outs of the Flints. I know in this Formum there's a discussion on paper cut outs with pics of OC buses. Problem is I don;t know how to print them out to be the same size as the DD & Hybrid bus cut outs? Anyone know how its done? OPPS wrong thread. Can the mods move it to GOA Question thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallspy Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 With the exception of the quantity of doorways and the bathroom on this model, it appears that this is what OC has or will be ordering: https://wwwstadlerrailcom-live-01e96f7.s3-eu-central-1.amazonaws.com/filer_public/a5/5c/a55c4ff1-3624-4c7a-9549-7261a4101160/f3tr0415en_us.pdf Dan 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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