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Montreal Metro MR-63 Retirement Watch

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With more Azurs coming in on a monthly basis, This is a good timing to begin the MR-63 retirement watch. There was 336 cars running both the Green and Yellow lines and as user @SMS said on the Metro thread, the first MR-63 retired was Element 42 Jeumont. If the Element 41 hasn't already been retired, 80-041 is the only Jeumont running, If you hear a retirement of a MR-63 either on Youtube, from the STM or any other sites. comment below

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What I have heard so far

Retired

81-581 // 80-041 // 81-582

81-583 // 80-042 // 81-584

81-693 // 80-097 // 81-694 ** Awaiting Official Confirmation**

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Why did the Jeumont's go first? Oddballs of the fleet?

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4 hours ago, Matt Demers said:

Why did the Jeumont's go first? Oddballs of the fleet?

I don't think the Jeumonts are in the best shape, in fact I think of the MR-63 fleet they were in the WORST shape

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8 hours ago, Transitfan39 said:

I don't think the Jeumonts are in the best shape, in fact I think of the MR-63 fleet they were in the WORST shape

What's the difference between a Jeumont and another type of MR-63?

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51 minutes ago, Tom1122 said:

What's the difference between a Jeumont and another type of MR-63?

It is the special type of motor that makes the loud F / B-flat / F sound, and was specifically to be tested for the MR-73.

 

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2 hours ago, Tom1122 said:

What's the difference between a Jeumont and another type of MR-63?

The Jeumonts were prototypes that were tested for tones that were going to be introduced on the MR-73s, I believe they were introduced in the 1970s, They weren't planned to be so popular and the STM kept 2 of 3 Jeumonts (80-041 and 80-042). The 3rd Jeumont (80-043), was retired and is used for the Just for Laughs festival. The difference is the Jeumonts has either loud or silent Jeumonts (80-042 is louder than 80-041) and the rest of the 63 fleet use a motor known as Hitachi motors

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20 minutes ago, Transitfan39 said:

The Jeumonts were prototypes that were tested for tones that were going to be introduced on the MR-73s, I believe they were introduced in the 1970s, They weren't planned to be so popular and the STM kept 2 of 3 Jeumonts (80-041 and 80-042). The 3rd Jeumont (80-043), was retired and is used for the Just for Laughs festival. The difference is the Jeumonts has either loud or silent Jeumonts (80-042 is louder than 80-041) and the rest of the 63 fleet use a motor known as Hitachi motors

Fact check

- Normal MR63 don't have current chopper engine, so no Hitachi or Jeumont there

- Jeumont elements 41 and 42 were not back in service until the mid 2000 !

-  The chopper sound is just because it is like that, not because of a popularity contest

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3 hours ago, eclair14 said:

Fact check

- Normal MR63 don't have current chopper engine, so no Hitachi or Jeumont there

- Jeumont elements 41 and 42 were not back in service until the mid 2000 !

-  The chopper sound is just because it is like that, not because of a popularity contest

I used the info from the STM's website on the history of the MR-63 and they mentioned Hitachi and Jeumont as prototypes http://www.stm.info/en/about/major_projects/sustainable-reclamation-plan-mr-63-cars

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6 hours ago, Transitfan39 said:

The Jeumonts were prototypes that were tested for tones that were going to be introduced on the MR-73s, I believe they were introduced in the 1970s, They weren't planned to be so popular and the STM kept 2 of 3 Jeumonts (80-041 and 80-042). The 3rd Jeumont (80-043), was retired and is used for the Just for Laughs festival. The difference is the Jeumonts has either loud or silent Jeumonts (80-042 is louder than 80-041) and the rest of the 63 fleet use a motor known as Hitachi motors

A minor correction to your post. It was 80-040 paired with 81-579 / 81-580.

I will miss riding the Jeumont trains. It was always in the middle set on the green line so it was pretty easy to spot. :(

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30 minutes ago, Matt Demers said:

A minor correction to your post. It was 80-040 paired with 81-579 / 81-580.

I will miss riding the Jeumont trains. It was always in the middle set on the green line so it was pretty easy to spot. :(

I thought it was 80-041-043 was the Jeumont but after a google search you are correct its not 80-043 but 040

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On 31/08/2016 at 6:36 PM, Transitfan39 said:

I used the info from the STM's website on the history of the MR-63 and they mentioned Hitachi and Jeumont as prototypes http://www.stm.info/en/about/major_projects/sustainable-reclamation-plan-mr-63-cars

Yeah but the Hitachi units were reconverted back to normal, so no current chopper on the normal ones except the Jeumonts that were left in service.

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33 minutes ago, AlexLy said:

Yeah but the Hitachi units were reconverted back to normal, so no current chopper on the normal ones except the Jeumonts that were left in service.

Oh I thought all the trains were Hitachi motor equipped, what makes the bass sound when the MR-63 accelerates and decelerates?

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81-581 // 80-041 // 81-582 (Back in Service, next on the list when next Azur enters service)

Retired (Confirmed)

81-529 // 80-015 // 81-530

81-583 // 80-042 // 81-584 (Sent to American Iron and Metal in Rivière-Des-Prairies)

81-693 // 80-097 // 81-694

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I'm curious if anyone heard of any notable retirements on the MR-63s, like if the Element 41 been retired again

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Nothing yet, still waiting for the next Azur Set to be ready for service, it was delivered last week.

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Well, 80-031 and it's mates 81-561 / 81-562 are gone. I remember a fun ride on 81-561 years ago when the train would jerk hard and the whole train burst out laughing in amusement.

I got on 80-007 today and when approaching Beaudry station, half the lights turned off and the train rolled into the station with silence. A few minutes after all the fans and the other half of the lights came back on.. Is this a problem with the train or with the power?

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On ‎2016‎-‎10‎-‎15 at 11:47 PM, Matt Demers said:

Well, 80-031 and it's mates 81-561 / 81-562 are gone. I remember a fun ride on 81-561 years ago when the train would jerk hard and the whole train burst out laughing in amusement.

80-031 was put on display at Place des Arts for the 50th anniversary, I don't know if its still sitting there as of Oct. 17 2016

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12 hours ago, Transitfan39 said:

80-031 was put on display at Place des Arts for the 50th anniversary, I don't know if its still sitting there as of Oct. 17 2016

We passed the next day on the Charter and it was gone.

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Have anyone spotted the Element 41 lately? I haven't seen any videos of it in a while and my friend said he haven't seen it in weeks

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I was wondering if there are any updates on which MR-63's have been retired to date? I know from STM's website on the MR-63 45 cars have been recycled.

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Élément 001 81-501/80-001/81-502
Élément 002 81-503/80-002/81-504
Élément 003 81-505/80-003/81-506
Élément 004 81-507/80-004/81-508
Élément 005 81-509/80-005/81-510 Destroyed Fire 1971-12-09
Élément 006 81-511/80-006/81-512
Élément 007 81-513/80-007/81-514
Élément 008 81-515/80-008/81-516
Élément 009 81-517/80-009/81-518
Élément 010 81-519/80-010/81-520 Ex-Hitachi
Élément 011 81-521/80-011/81-522 Ex-Hitachi
Élément 012 81-523/80-012/81-524 Ex-Hitachi
Élément 013 81-525/80-013/81-526 Retired 2017-05-?? Jardins Metis Project (STM Facebook Page)
Élément 014 81-527/80-014/81-528 Involved Fire 1971-12-09 Retired 2017-04-10
Élément 015 81-529/80-015/81-530 Retired 2016-09-19
Élément 016 81-531/80-016/81-532
Élément 017 81-533/80-017/81-534
Élément 018 81-535/80-018/81-536
Élément 019 81-537/80-019/81-538
Élément 020 81-539/80-020/81-540 Destroyed Fire 1971-12-09
Élément 021 81-541/80-021/81-542 Retired 2017-04-21
Élément 022 81-543/80-022/81-544
Élément 023 81-545/80-023/81-546 Retired 2016-11-15
Élément 024 81-547/80-024/81-548
Élément 025 81-549/80-025/81-550
Élément 026 81-551/80-026/81-552 Retired 2016-11-09
Élément 027 81-553/80-027/81-554 Retired 2017-04-19
Élément 028 81-555/80-028/81-556
Élément 029 81-557/80-029/81-558 Retired 2016-12-07
Élément 030 81-559/80-030/81-560
Élément 031 81-561/80-031/81-562 Retired 2016-10-12
Élément 032 81-563/80-032/81-564
Élément 033 81-565/80-033/81-566
Élément 034 81-567/80-034/81-568 Retired 2017-03-29
Élément 035 81-569/80-035/81-570
Élément 036 81-571/80-036/81-572
Élément 037 81-573/80-037/81-574
Élément 038 81-575/80-038/81-576 Destroyed Fire 1971-12-09
Élément 039 81-577/80-039/81-578 Retired 2017-03-16
Élément 040 81-579/80-040/81-580 Jeumont Retiré
Élément 041 81-581/80-041/81-582 Jeumont Retiré 2016-11-03
Élément 042 81-583/80-042/81-584 Jeumont Retiré 2016-08-29
Élément 043 81-585/80-043/81-586
Élément 044 81-587/80-044/81-588 Involved Fire 1971-12-09
Élément 045 81-589/80-045/81-590
Élément 046 81-591/80-046/81-592 Retired 2017-04-03
Élément 047 81-593/80-047/81-594 Destroyed Fire 1971-12-09
Élément 048 81-595/80-048/81-596
Élément 049 81-597/80-049/81-598
Élément 050 81-599/80-050/81-600
Élément 051 81-601/80-051/81-602
Élément 052 81-603/80-052/81-604 Retired 2016-12-12
Élément 053 81-605/80-053/81-606 Retired 2016-10-24
Élément 054 81-607/80-054/81-608
Élément 055 81-609/80-055/81-610
Élément 056 81-611/80-056/81-612 Retired 2016-10-28
Élément 057 81-613/80-057/81-614
Élément 058 81-615/80-058/81-616
Élément 059 81-617/80-059/81-618
Élément 060 81-619/80-060/81-620
Élément 061 81-621/80-061/81-622
Élément 062 81-623/80-062/81-624
Élément 063 81-625/80-063/81-626
Élément 064 81-627/80-064/81-628

Élément 065 81-629/80-065/81-630 Retired 2017-04-04
Élément 066 81-631/80-066/81-632
Élément 067 81-633/80-067/81-634 Destroyed Fire 1971-12-09
Élément 068 81-635/80-068/81-636
Élément 069 81-637/80-069/81-638
Élément 070 81-639/80-070/81-640
Élément 071 81-641/80-071/81-642
Élément 072 81-643/80-072/81-644
Élément 073 81-645/80-073/81-646
Élément 074 81-647/80-074/81-648
Élément 075 81-649/80-075/81-650

Élément 076 81-651/80-076/81-652
Élément 077 81-653/80-077/81-654 Retired 2017-04-26
Élément 078 81-655/80-078/81-656 Involved Fire 1971-12-09
Élément 079 81-657/80-079/81-658
Élément 080 81-659/80-080/81-660 Retired 2017-01-18
Élément 081 81-661/80-081/81-662
Élément 082 81-663/80-082/81-664
Élément 083 81-665/80-083/81-666

Élément 084 81-667/80-084/81-668 Destroyed Fire 1971-12-09
Élément 085 81-669/80-085/81-670
Élément 086 81-671/80-086/81-672
Élément 087 81-673/80-087/81-674
Élément 088 81-675/80-088/81-676

Élément 089 81-677/80-089/81-678 Involved Fire 1971-12-09
Élément 090 81-679/80-090/81-680 Destroyed Fire 1971-12-09
Élément 091 81-681/80-091/81-682
Élément 092 81-683/80-092/81-684 Destroyed Fire 1971-12-09
Élément 093 81-685/80-093/81-686
Élément 094 81-687/80-094/81-688
Élément 095 81-689/80-095/81-690
Élément 096 81-691/80-096/81-692

Élément 097 81-693/80-097/81-694 Retired 2016-09-09
Élément 098 81-695/80-098/81-696 Destroyed Fire 1974-01-23
Élément 099 81-697/80-099/81-698 Retired 2017-01-10
Élément 100 81-699/80-100/81-700
Élément 101 81-701/80-101/81-702 Destroyed Fire 1974-01-23
Élément 102 81-703/80-102/81-704
Élément 103 81-705/80-103/81-706

Élément 104 81-707/80-104/81-708 Retired 2017-01-13
Élément 105 81-709/80-105/81-710
Élément 106 81-711/80-106/81-712

Élément 107 81-713/80-107/81-714 Destroyed Fire 1974-01-23
Élément 108 81-715/80-108/81-716
Élément 109 81-717/80-109/81-718
Élément 110 81-719/80-110/81-720
Élément 111 81-721/80-111/81-722
Élément 112 81-723/80-112/81-724

Élément 113 81-725/80-113/81-726 Retired 2017-04-13
Élément 114 81-727/80-114/81-728 Retired 2016-12-15
Élément 115 81-729/80-115/81-730
Élément 116 81-731/80-116/81-732
Élément 117 81-733/80-117/81-734
Élément 118 81-735/80-118/81-736
Élément 119 81-737/80-119/81-738
Élément 120 81-739/80-120/81-740
Élément 121 81-741/80-121/81-742
Élément 122 81-743/80-122/81-744
Élément 123 81-745/80-123/81-746

Retired Elements: 37 (24 since arrival of Azur) of 123
Retired Cars: 111 (72 since arrival of Azur) of 369
Percentage Retired: 30.08%

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Élément 001 81-501/80-001/81-502
Élément 002 81-503/80-002/81-504
Élément 003 81-505/80-003/81-506
Élément 004 81-507/80-004/81-508
Élément 005 81-509/80-005/81-510 Destroyed Fire 1971-12-09
Élément 006 81-511/80-006/81-512
Élément 007 81-513/80-007/81-514
Élément 008 81-515/80-008/81-516
Élément 009 81-517/80-009/81-518
Élément 010 81-519/80-010/81-520 Ex-Hitachi
Élément 011 81-521/80-011/81-522 Ex-Hitachi
Élément 012 81-523/80-012/81-524 Ex-Hitachi
Élément 013 81-525/80-013/81-526 Retired 2017-05-?? Jardins Metis Project (STM Facebook Page)
Élément 014 81-527/80-014/81-528 Involved Fire 1971-12-09 Retired 2017-04-10
Élément 015 81-529/80-015/81-530 Retired 2016-09-19
Élément 016 81-531/80-016/81-532
Élément 017 81-533/80-017/81-534
Élément 018 81-535/80-018/81-536
Élément 019 81-537/80-019/81-538
Élément 020 81-539/80-020/81-540 Destroyed Fire 1971-12-09
Élément 021 81-541/80-021/81-542 Retired 2017-04-21
Élément 022 81-543/80-022/81-544
Élément 023 81-545/80-023/81-546 Retired 2016-11-15
Élément 024 81-547/80-024/81-548
Élément 025 81-549/80-025/81-550
Élément 026 81-551/80-026/81-552 Retired 2016-11-09
Élément 027 81-553/80-027/81-554 Retired 2017-04-19
Élément 028 81-555/80-028/81-556
Élément 029 81-557/80-029/81-558 Retired 2016-12-07
Élément 030 81-559/80-030/81-560
Élément 031 81-561/80-031/81-562 Retired 2016-10-12
Élément 032 81-563/80-032/81-564
Élément 033 81-565/80-033/81-566
Élément 034 81-567/80-034/81-568 Retired 2017-03-29
Élément 035 81-569/80-035/81-570
Élément 036 81-571/80-036/81-572
Élément 037 81-573/80-037/81-574
Élément 038 81-575/80-038/81-576 Destroyed Fire 1971-12-09
Élément 039 81-577/80-039/81-578 Retired 2017-03-16
Élément 040 81-579/80-040/81-580 Jeumont Retired 2008-??-??
Élément 041 81-581/80-041/81-582 Jeumont Retired 2016-11-03
Élément 042 81-583/80-042/81-584 Jeumont Retired 2016-08-29
Élément 043 81-585/80-043/81-586
Élément 044 81-587/80-044/81-588 Involved Fire 1971-12-09
Élément 045 81-589/80-045/81-590
Élément 046 81-591/80-046/81-592 Retired 2017-04-03
Élément 047 81-593/80-047/81-594 Destroyed Fire 1971-12-09
Élément 048 81-595/80-048/81-596
Élément 049 81-597/80-049/81-598
Élément 050 81-599/80-050/81-600
Élément 051 81-601/80-051/81-602
Élément 052 81-603/80-052/81-604 Retired 2016-12-12
Élément 053 81-605/80-053/81-606 Retired 2016-10-24
Élément 054 81-607/80-054/81-608
Élément 055 81-609/80-055/81-610
Élément 056 81-611/80-056/81-612 Retired 2016-10-28
Élément 057 81-613/80-057/81-614
Élément 058 81-615/80-058/81-616

Élément 059 81-617/80-059/81-618 Retired 2017-05-??
Élément 060 81-619/80-060/81-620
Élément 061 81-621/80-061/81-622
Élément 062 81-623/80-062/81-624
Élément 063 81-625/80-063/81-626
Élément 064 81-627/80-064/81-628

Élément 065 81-629/80-065/81-630 Retired 2017-04-04
Élément 066 81-631/80-066/81-632
Élément 067 81-633/80-067/81-634 Destroyed Fire 1971-12-09
Élément 068 81-635/80-068/81-636
Élément 069 81-637/80-069/81-638
Élément 070 81-639/80-070/81-640
Élément 071 81-641/80-071/81-642
Élément 072 81-643/80-072/81-644
Élément 073 81-645/80-073/81-646
Élément 074 81-647/80-074/81-648
Élément 075 81-649/80-075/81-650

Élément 076 81-651/80-076/81-652
Élément 077 81-653/80-077/81-654 Retired 2017-04-26
Élément 078 81-655/80-078/81-656 Involved Fire 1971-12-09
Élément 079 81-657/80-079/81-658
Élément 080 81-659/80-080/81-660 Retired 2017-01-18
Élément 081 81-661/80-081/81-662
Élément 082 81-663/80-082/81-664
Élément 083 81-665/80-083/81-666

Élément 084 81-667/80-084/81-668 Destroyed Fire 1971-12-09
Élément 085 81-669/80-085/81-670
Élément 086 81-671/80-086/81-672
Élément 087 81-673/80-087/81-674
Élément 088 81-675/80-088/81-676

Élément 089 81-677/80-089/81-678 Involved Fire 1971-12-09
Élément 090 81-679/80-090/81-680 Destroyed Fire 1971-12-09
Élément 091 81-681/80-091/81-682
Élément 092 81-683/80-092/81-684 Destroyed Fire 1971-12-09
Élément 093 81-685/80-093/81-686
Élément 094 81-687/80-094/81-688
Élément 095 81-689/80-095/81-690
Élément 096 81-691/80-096/81-692

Élément 097 81-693/80-097/81-694 Retired 2016-09-09
Élément 098 81-695/80-098/81-696 Destroyed Fire 1974-01-23
Élément 099 81-697/80-099/81-698 Retired 2017-01-10
Élément 100 81-699/80-100/81-700
Élément 101 81-701/80-101/81-702 Destroyed Fire 1974-01-23
Élément 102 81-703/80-102/81-704
Élément 103 81-705/80-103/81-706

Élément 104 81-707/80-104/81-708 Retired 2017-01-13
Élément 105 81-709/80-105/81-710
Élément 106 81-711/80-106/81-712

Élément 107 81-713/80-107/81-714 Destroyed Fire 1974-01-23
Élément 108 81-715/80-108/81-716
Élément 109 81-717/80-109/81-718
Élément 110 81-719/80-110/81-720
Élément 111 81-721/80-111/81-722
Élément 112 81-723/80-112/81-724

Élément 113 81-725/80-113/81-726 Retired 2017-04-13
Élément 114 81-727/80-114/81-728 Retired 2016-12-15
Élément 115 81-729/80-115/81-730
Élément 116 81-731/80-116/81-732
Élément 117 81-733/80-117/81-734
Élément 118 81-735/80-118/81-736
Élément 119 81-737/80-119/81-738
Élément 120 81-739/80-120/81-740
Élément 121 81-741/80-121/81-742
Élément 122 81-743/80-122/81-744
Élément 123 81-745/80-123/81-746

Retired Elements: 38 (25 since arrival of Azur) of 123
Retired Cars: 114 (75 since arrival of Azur) of 369
Percentage Retired: 30.89%

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