TransitfanJW Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 21 minutes ago, TheAverageJoe said: It is happening, MTA confirmed yesterday , who cares anyways not like most of the fan boys from Toronto go to NYC anyways. I do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3G Posted May 2, 2017 Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 12 hours ago, HB_1024 said: Why would it defeat the point if the TTC isn't still operating them? Because emissions are emissions, regardless of where on the planet the buses are operating? Don't get me wrong, I understand they're only meant to be a stop gap solution, but the fact that the TTC is selling them off at all for revenue service elsewhere is something I find rather odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtrazsteve Posted May 2, 2017 Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 49 minutes ago, PCC Guy said: Because emissions are emissions, regardless of where on the planet the buses are operating? Don't get me wrong, I understand they're only meant to be a stop gap solution, but the fact that the TTC is selling them off at all for revenue service elsewhere is something I find rather odd. I don't. Money is money. If the highest bidder is MTA and not a scraper, then that's where they'll go. TTC wouldn't retired them if it wasn't MTO. TTC spent a decent amount on refurbishing them. Something like $200k a bus and didn't get back on what they spent on them if they were to go to the scrap yard. TTC would had retired the hybrids instead with the PTIF funds. Emission? NYC is gridlock all the time. Time square on Saturday? All the bridges between Manhattan and Brooklyn? All the taxis running around in circles? There's a lot more emission out there than 200 S50 buses. If the TTC cared more about the environment instead of transporting people, then they would have bought electric buses for a much higher cost. I'm glad TTC has it's priority right. They are here to transport people from one place to another at the lowest cost. If selling 200 buses meant they can buy 40 new buses in the future, it's better than scrapping them for price of like 5 new buses. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAverageJoe Posted May 2, 2017 Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 Turns out they may not even be going to MTA now, shit has hit the media in NYC about then buying "200 used dirty old diesel buses" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom1122 Posted May 2, 2017 Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 2 hours ago, TheAverageJoe said: Turns out they may not even be going to MTA now, shit has hit the media in NYC about then buying "200 used dirty old diesel buses" It's been reported that MTA inspected one such bus and saw 70 cracks in the frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAverageJoe Posted May 2, 2017 Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 43 minutes ago, Tom1122 said: It's been reported that MTA inspected one such bus and saw 70 cracks in the frame. They would have inspected dozens in the fleet randomly when they were here in Feb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3G Posted May 2, 2017 Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 The official narrative is that the frame cracks were a fabrication on the part of someone in the company to stop them from buying the "dirty diesel buses". I don't know how true that is but this is a total shitshow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAverageJoe Posted May 2, 2017 Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 55 minutes ago, PCC Guy said: The official narrative is that the frame cracks were a fabrication on the part of someone in the company to stop them from buying the "dirty diesel buses". I don't know how true that is but this is a total shitshow Someone leak it to the media, Reason why it was posted to NYCTF's other wise the NYCTF contact would still keep this info private. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leylandvictory2 Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 7471 is moat likely done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusFanForever Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 7442,7475,7696 and 7765 are now in the Mt Dennis bone yard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelvin3157 Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 24 minutes ago, BusFanForever said: 7442,7475,7696 and 7765 are now in the Mt Dennis bone yard. To MTA or getting scrapped? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtrazsteve Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 Oh god... The Orion VII mass retirement has begun. RIP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TransitfanJW Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 Can anyone confirm if 7594 is retired? It hasn't shown up for 3 months. I've updated my list on the front page to list the four new retirements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7879 Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 7501, 7526 and 7615 have been MIA for over a month as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutharsan Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 10 hours ago, BusFanForever said: 7442,7475,7696 and 7765 are now in the Mt Dennis bone yard. Why were they moved to Mt.Dennis bone yard instead of Birchmount bus yard where 7000 and 7200 series were retired and parked there long time ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusFanForever Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 21 hours ago, Kelvin3157 said: To MTA or getting scrapped? Not yet confirmed but I'd say scrapped judging by their condition (major mechanical issues). 11 hours ago, Sutharsan said: Why were they moved to Mt.Dennis bone yard instead of Birchmount bus yard where 7000 and 7200 series were retired and parked there long time ago? The techs who are currently decommissioning buses are currently set up at Mt Dennis and are just finishing up with the last of the 7300's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 Do they still have frame cracks issues? If it was really a safety concern they wouldn't be on the road....right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leylandvictory2 Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 On 05/12/2017 at 9:59 PM, Shaun said: Do they still have frame cracks issues? If it was really a safety concern they wouldn't be on the road....right? Of course safety comes first. Some days some runs are cancelled due to bus shortage. 116b and 86b are the first runs that get cancel in the event of a bus shortage. edit: 7615's radio has been removed. So I think it is safe to say 7615 is done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leylandvictory2 Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 If removing the radio off a bus is a sign of retirement, 7479, 7615, 7619 are done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hexagonal 10 Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 1 hour ago, leylandvictory2 said: If removing the radio off a bus is a sign of retirement, 7479, 7615, 7619 are done. However 7619 is currently on 54A, "Last seen a few seconds ago" Unless the radio removal was more recent. By radio do you mean the TRUMP unit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TransitfanJW Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 I added 7479 and 7615 to the retired batch, since they haven't been seen in a while. I'll keep my eye out for 7619. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin ORION Posted May 15, 2017 Root Admin Report Share Posted May 15, 2017 According to a reliable source, the following Orion VIIs are no longer active. 7400-7499 7403 7419 7430 7442 7462 7464 7468 7471 7473 7475 7479 7492 7500-7619 7501 7526 7610 7615 7620-7881 (7882=7794, 7883=7666) 7696 7765 7807 7814 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TransitfanJW Posted May 15, 2017 Report Share Posted May 15, 2017 2 hours ago, orionbus said: According to a reliable source, the following Orion VIIs are no longer active. Thank you for the update! Do you know the status of 7594? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leylandvictory2 Posted May 15, 2017 Report Share Posted May 15, 2017 23 hours ago, Hexagonal 10 said: However 7619 is currently on 54A, "Last seen a few seconds ago" Unless the radio removal was more recent. By radio do you mean the TRUMP unit? Yes I am refering to the trump unit. Sometimes the tracking is not accurate. For example the tracker stated 8623 was spotted at a location near birchmount and Eglinton. I saw it running back and forth between Kennedy Station to Don and Mills and Eglinton. Maybe they put the trump back on the bus. I don't talk to the foreman and mechanics regarding the retirements. I post my observation based on whether the trumps are on the buses or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hexagonal 10 Posted May 15, 2017 Report Share Posted May 15, 2017 22 minutes ago, leylandvictory2 said: Yes I am refering to the trump unit. Sometimes the tracking is not accurate. For example the tracker stated 8623 was spotted at a location near birchmount and Eglinton. I saw it running back and forth between Kennedy Station to Don and Mills and Eglinton. Maybe they put the trump back on the bus. I don't talk to the foreman and mechanics regarding the retirements. I post my observation based on whether the trumps are on the buses or not. Thank you for the clarity, much appreciated. It should be back now as it's showing 68A NB at Ellesmere at the time of posting. (19:38) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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