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Sometime soon, we will have new Gillig buses on the property, the next batch may be all CNG or a mix of CNG and diesel buses, and they will retire the remaining 2006 Gilligs, which right now are conti

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Well, I don't know, imma just call em contingency buses for now.    BTW, last night was fun.     

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On 9/30/2020 at 9:12 PM, SilentSpades said:

If what you had posted awhile back about the bus counts was correct, I'd have to assume its an electric. They're due for some MAX buses

 

Maybe. I was assuming the first electric ones would have a special paint scheme like the first cng ones had. I know covid-19 has delayed some projects, the 2nd cng pump and relocation of the SB Troost Max stop at TMC until next year. 

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On 10/3/2020 at 8:03 PM, RyanB_69 said:

The reflection in the window, ridekc max paint scheme.

More than likely an option order taken, like 3534 the 2011 hybrid and 3535-3536, the 2016 Voith CNGs. We do need some MAX buses and our 2010s (3524-3533) are becoming junk fast.  Expect a few MAX buses here and there until between 2023-2024, when they logically get ready to retire the 2010s and the launch of the Independence Avenue MAX, which will be the next MAX line built. And by that time, the streetcar will go to UMKC and more more Main MAX.

On 9/30/2020 at 12:34 AM, RyanB_69 said:

Spotted on instagram, unclear if electric or cng.

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Are you on the gillig fans page on Facebook?

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3 hours ago, neoartic7101 said:

More than likely an option order taken, like 3534 the 2011 hybrid and 3535-3536, the 2016 Voith CNGs. We do need some MAX buses and our 2010s (3524-3533) are becoming junk fast.  Expect a few MAX buses here and there until between 2023-2024, when they logically get ready to retire the 2010s and the launch of the Independence Avenue MAX, which will be the next MAX line built. And by that time, the streetcar will go to UMKC and more more Main MAX.

Are you on the gillig fans page on Facebook?

I am not on the fan page. I follow the "Gillig" hashtag on instagram.

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RideKC just dropped the "final" plan for RideKC Next. 

As you'll see COVID has done a number on what the plan was then to now.

Major takeways
- MMAX to Martin City and Ward Parkway replaces current 52, 57 service
- PMAX to Bannister, replaces part of 75
- 18 through Vine/23rd Street, replacing parts of 10 and 23, extends across 75th to 75th & Wornall, replaces 75
- 23 Replaces most of 15 service
- 28 Remains, however from Blue Crossing to Holiday & Blue Ridge or Grandview (Peak only)
- 40 still replaces parts of 47 on Broadway (wish they'd name the route to #51)
- 12 still goes to KCK, replacing 101 and 106 service in West Bottoms
- 31 will remain the same
- Proposed 239 (which was to replace 233, 231, 234 service) is no more
- 24 will go to Independence on Sunday
- 47 will continue service to Blue Xing on Sunday
- ALL KCMO routes (including 23, 28) will operate every day 

Routes replaced
- 75 (replaced by 18 and PMAX)
- 51, 52, 57 (Replaced by MMAX)
- 15 (replaced by 23) *note, will probably end up being named 15*
- 10 (replaced w/ 18 in Jazz District)
- 231, 234 will not be replaced
- 9 (replaced by 12)

 

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46 minutes ago, SilentSpades said:

RideKC just dropped the "final" plan for RideKC Next. 

As you'll see COVID has done a number on what the plan was then to now.

Major takeways
- MMAX to Martin City and Ward Parkway replaces current 52, 57 service
- PMAX to Bannister, replaces part of 75
- 18 through Vine/23rd Street, replacing parts of 10 and 23, extends across 75th to 75th & Wornall, replaces 75
- 23 Replaces most of 15 service
- 28 Remains, however from Blue Crossing to Holiday & Blue Ridge or Grandview (Peak only)
- 40 still replaces parts of 47 on Broadway (wish they'd name the route to #51)
- 12 still goes to KCK, replacing 101 and 106 service in West Bottoms
- 31 will remain the same
- Proposed 239 (which was to replace 233, 231, 234 service) is no more
- 24 will go to Independence on Sunday
- 47 will continue service to Blue Xing on Sunday
- ALL KCMO routes (including 23, 28) will operate every day 

Routes replaced
- 75 (replaced by 18 and PMAX)
- 51, 52, 57 (Replaced by MMAX)
- 15 (replaced by 23) *note, will probably end up being named 15*
- 10 (replaced w/ 18 in Jazz District)
- 231, 234 will not be replaced
- 9 (replaced by 12)

 

I just saw the map online, noticed routes 21 & 233 are gone. As for Main Max, it makes sense but it's going be a long ride from end to end. The 47 looks like it'll no longer take 43rd from blue ridge cutoff to pittman, instead using the current 31 alignment. 24 out to Indy on Sunday is a surprise since Indy has that ongoing funding issue but it'll be nice. I like the 28 hanging around but not peak hours only. 252 has an actual route instead of staying on 152 hwy!

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4 hours ago, RyanB_69 said:

I just saw the map online, noticed routes 21 & 233 are gone. As for Main Max, it makes sense but it's going be a long ride from end to end. The 47 looks like it'll no longer take 43rd from blue ridge cutoff to pittman, instead using the current 31 alignment. 24 out to Indy on Sunday is a surprise since Indy has that ongoing funding issue but it'll be nice. I like the 28 hanging around but not peak hours only. 252 has an actual route instead of staying on 152 hwy!

Yeah, sucks seeing the 21 get cut. Was a key route connecting north KC to the Eastside. 233 is pretty much just replaced by a shift of 238. Love the change made to its proposal. 

Also sucks seeing the proposed 239 got cut. I think something could've been done there as well. (Maybe combined with the 21? At least get the rider to Independence Ave).

Love that they're taking MAX down south, both PMAX to Bannister and MMAX to Martin City. I'd bet one the Streetcar goes south the route from UMKC to Martin City ends up as the MMAX legacy. 

I am concered with how the 101 and 106 will be affected by not going downtown. I really hope they don't slash that saturday service on 106 like originally proposed. (maybe Amazon route gets spun back into 114)

Overall all things considered, and COVID considered, the ATA did a good job. I hope after COVID is over and we recover economically we can see more services added back in. 

I'd love seeing the proposed 23 just be numbered 15, and the proposed 40 remembered to 51. But that's just me.

@RyanB_69 also 28 is running 7 days a week. Holiday and Blue Ridge to Blue Ridge Crossing. Peak service is Grandview to Bannister, likely connection to PMAX and TMAX.

 

23, 40, 238 are also going run 7 days a week as well. So I think they went back to a more even split of coverage and service. Excited nonetheless as long as this is what ends up being implemented. 

 

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On 11/17/2020 at 2:53 PM, SilentSpades said:

Service being rolled back again. Major routes retain current frequency. Low ridership routes to be suspended. 

Yup. And it screwed a lot of operators with the last minute rollback.

 

Expect more this January from what I heard. We don't want to, though. 

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22 hours ago, neoartic7101 said:

Yup. And it screwed a lot of operators with the last minute rollback.

 

Expect more this January from what I heard. We don't want to, though. 

Jeez, how much more can they rollback? The few buses I've rode since October have been pretty full.

I guess that explains the RideKC Next Plan (cutting back much more than originally proposed).

Are they expecting more layoffs?

 

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On 12/6/2020 at 5:02 PM, SilentSpades said:

Jeez, how much more can they rollback? The few buses I've rode since October have been pretty full.

I guess that explains the RideKC Next Plan (cutting back much more than originally proposed).

Are they expecting more layoffs?

 

Welp, I guess you saw the news. A few more routes cut. But they lied and said we are short drivers. Which isn't true, they are working us like Hebrew slaves... 🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️ 

As for layoffs, they love to tell us drivers things at the last minute. 

Something to laugh at. 

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Well I figured that was a lie. They'd have given more updates about drivers having COVID if that were the case

I would assume it's cost cutting measures as it always with them. *RIDEKC NEXT*

Did any of the originally laid off drivers return to work?

Well whatever happens, stay safe, don't let em run ya into the ground.

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36 minutes ago, SilentSpades said:

Shocked Gillig doesn't have an electric BRT, this looks to be their standard electric fitting.

Supposed to be 2 electrics this year, with some diesel small buses?

Yes, that's what the order is supposed to be. 

I like this design on Gillig buses rather than the old shoebox design. 

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1 hour ago, neoartic7101 said:

Yes, that's what the order is supposed to be. 

I like this design on Gillig buses rather than the old shoebox design. 

Yeah, the upgraded design looks much than the classic shoebox, hope they move towards that for all of their models. 

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On 1/19/2021 at 11:12 AM, SilentSpades said:

Yeah, the upgraded design looks much than the classic shoebox, hope they move towards that for all of their models. 

Ok, better pics. But no room to take em. 2560 is inside the maintenance shop.

 

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Here are more pictures of 3560.

Again, not enough room to take pics. 

Interior is the same as 3537-3559. So no need for interior pics.

 

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Here is a pic of the dashboard. I can already tell everyone who drives the 40ft buses here have to be trained on this, me included. 

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1 hour ago, neoartic7101 said:

Ok, better pics. But no room to take em. 2560 is inside the maintenance shop.

 

20210120_192517.jpg

20210120_192528.jpg

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Here are more pictures of 3560.

Again, not enough room to take pics. 

Interior is the same as 3537-3559. So no need for interior pics.

 

20210120_192629.jpg

20210120_192632.jpg

20210120_192650.jpg

Here is a pic of the dashboard. I can already tell everyone who drives the 40ft buses here have to be trained on this, me included. 

20210120_192613.jpg

2560? Wonder why the went with that number not 3561.

 

Either way. Looks mighty spiffy. Will definitely try to catch a ride once they're out and about.

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25 minutes ago, SilentSpades said:

2560? Wonder why the went with that number not 3561.

 

Either way. Looks mighty spiffy. Will definitely try to catch a ride once they're out and about.

Typo. Meant 3560. But I have large fingers. Lol

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