horseman Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 Hi folks. Check out http://www.winnipeg.ca/matmgt/bidopp.asp, specifically project 555-2015 at the bottom. Some interesting content if one wades through it, including BRT through Union Station, and investigating a new garage in the northeast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidW Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 2 hours ago, horseman said: Hi folks. Check out http://www.winnipeg.ca/matmgt/bidopp.asp, specifically project 555-2015 at the bottom. Some interesting content if one wades through it, including BRT through Union Station, and investigating a new garage in the northeast. Thanks for the heads-up. This was quite interesting... Quote Develop options for a segment that provides BRT connectivity through Tracks 1 and 2 of Union Station to link the Southwest Transit Corridor, Eastern Transit Corridor, and the Graham Avenue Transit Mall. Main Street is currently used by Winnipeg Transit to connect the Graham Avenue Transit Mall with the Southwest Transit Corridor. Winnipeg Transit seeks an alternative to using Main Street for this segment of the rapid transit network; ♦ Winnipeg Transit has an agreement in place with CN Rail permitting Winnipeg Transit to make use of existing railway right-of-way (Tracks 1 and 2 through Union Station) for a segment of Rapid Transit Corridor parallel to Main Street; ♦ Note that this segment will need to include a Winnipeg Transit station inside the Union Station train shed structure, designed to facilitate the movement of pedestrians & cyclists with 24/7/365 use, and link to proposed development in the area; ♦ The existing railway museum within Union Station would need to be relocated; and ♦ One or more bridges would be required. These bridges would need to be designed for two-way transit vehicle (bus) traffic, with consideration of future LRT standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Walton Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 Where would the proposed new northeast garage be? Would it replace NMG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidW Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 On 5/26/2016 at 4:58 PM, Mark Walton said: Where would the proposed new northeast garage be? Would it replace NMG? Good question. The garage attached to the eastern corridor project is, to me, an unexpected component (as is the Main Street transitway). It would make sense for Transit to take advantage of the eastern corridor project to get the garage renewal they have been asking for for a very long time. Whether they then close North Garage, or maybe attach its renewal to a later North Corridor rapid transit project is anyone's guess. I suppose it's smart politics to roll these other projects into the Eastern Corridor, which has political buy-in and is probably well timed to take advantage of the Federal funding coming available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horseman Posted June 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 More about the Union Station part of this project on the CBC website: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/union-station-transit-1.3624509 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horseman Posted December 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 Consultant for the eastern corridor study was announced today: Story on CBC's website: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/rapid-transit-east-route-winnipeg-1.3908705 City of Winnipeg press release: http://www.winnipeg.ca/cao/media/news/nr_2016/nr_20161222.stm#1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidW Posted March 11, 2017 Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 I attended a "pre-consultation" session on the Eastern Corridor this week. It wasn't so much about the transit project itself as a session about how to conduct public consultations. Who to talk to. Channels of communication. Topics for discussion... Etc... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horseman Posted May 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2017 There is an updated set of webpages for the Eastern Corridor Study on the Winnipeg Transit website at http://winnipeg.ca/easterncorridor. There's a list of public engagement events coming up in May. One element of interest is the "Idea Wall" where they are looking for general comments, ideas, aspirations about the project... https://winnipegecs.engagingplans.net/ideas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horseman Posted May 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2017 They added some extra online activities to the Eastern Corridor Study pages: This one has you add locations that you think are important in the study area, for possible determination of the routing: https://www.winnipegecs.engagingplans.net/places This one has you make comments on some of the project elements, like the need for a new transit garage, the Louise Bridge replacement, etc.:https://www.winnipegecs.engagingplans.net/additional This one asks you to comment on the criteria that will be used to evaluate options, say if they've missed anything: https://www.winnipegecs.engagingplans.net/criteria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horseman Posted August 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2017 In July, there were a few pop-up events where the Eastern Corridor Study's consultants were out at farmers markets in Winnipeg to talk to people about transit in general and about the Eastern Corridor Study. They posted some of the presentation materials online: http://winnipegtransit.com/assets/1958/17M-00063-00_ECS_Pop-up_Boards_170629_clean_formatted.pdf The last page of this is interesting, they showed a number of BRT concepts from other cities, including different ways of integrating BRT lanes on-street, and an image showing all-door boarding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilZebra Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 On 5/13/2016 at 2:44 PM, DavidW said: ♦ The existing railway museum within Union Station would need to be relocated; and Not gonna happen. No way. May as well send them out to the RM of Rosser Manitoba, beyond WT service area. LOL. That's Winterpeg for ya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilZebra Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 Someone wrote on the Eastern Corridor "wall" the following...It wasn't me, BTW, though I've always thought this would be a great idea: "Change the route of the 47. Go down Provencher instead of the Higgins area. I want one bus to get from residential Transcona to St. Boniface, The Forks, and Downtown." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horseman Posted August 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 On 2016-05-31 at 0:01 PM, DavidW said: Good question. The garage attached to the eastern corridor project is, to me, an unexpected component (as is the Main Street transitway). It would make sense for Transit to take advantage of the eastern corridor project to get the garage renewal they have been asking for for a very long time. Whether they then close North Garage, or maybe attach its renewal to a later North Corridor rapid transit project is anyone's guess. I suppose it's smart politics to roll these other projects into the Eastern Corridor, which has political buy-in and is probably well timed to take advantage of the Federal funding coming available. The spot being looked at is two adjacent parcels, the Insect Control Branch site and the snow dump land on the west side of the Public Works Yard on Thomas Ave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidW Posted August 17, 2017 Report Share Posted August 17, 2017 While the planners and engineers toil away quietly on an Eastern Corridor preferred design l have heard a few off-hand comments that sound interesting. One is that there is strong interest in an on-street design, more than the alternative railway corridor. The on-street approach brings with it traffic segregation and traffic conflict issues. I hope segregation means something more substantial than a painted line. I would also hope that cross traffic would at the very least be managed by transit-activated signal priority. It would be very disappointing (and verging on pointless) if "rapid" transit is tied to the constraints of car traffic. The second was much more vague... tying together the Eastern Corridor with "New Flyer", "new technology", and "electric". In my experience these sorts of notions often don't advance beyond the "what if" conversation stage but I'm very curious to know more. Alas, in my experience Winnipeg Transit is usually about as adventurous as an old maid in church... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusRider Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 My only hope for the Eastern Corridor is that it gets the buses past Peguis in rush hour before rejoining with Regent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidW Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 There are Eastern Corridor public workshops scheduled all this week. I went to the one at Manitoba Hydro downtown this Monday around noon. The planning is still in the criteria and process phase. The workshop didn't present any route or design alternatives. Instead there was a map of the study area with all of the possible paths marked on it. The public was encouraged to mark their preferred route with sticky coloured string. There appear to be both on-street and off-street path options under consideration. Regent, Nairn, Mission, Provencher, the CN line, the CP line, and all sorts of other potential paths were available for your sticky string to be stuck to. This is all fine for an early, exploratory phase, but eventually professionals with knowledge and analytical skills will have to advance a few alternatives. I prefer putting the line where people travel now, enhancing service, rather than creating a new, separate parallel path and splitting service across them so neither service is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horseman Posted June 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 There's new information on the Eastern Corridor Study website, they are now talking about potential corridor options and looking for feedback on the alternatives. http://winnipegtransit.com/en/major-projects/rapid-transit/eastern-corridor-study/ is the page on Transit's website for the project, the feedback webpage that includes a map showing route options is here: https://easterncorridor.mysocialpinpoint.com/potential-route-options#/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viafreak Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 1 hour ago, horseman said: There's new information on the Eastern Corridor Study website, they are now talking about potential corridor options and looking for feedback on the alternatives. http://winnipegtransit.com/en/major-projects/rapid-transit/eastern-corridor-study/ is the page on Transit's website for the project, the feedback webpage that includes a map showing route options is here: https://easterncorridor.mysocialpinpoint.com/potential-route-options#/ I posted about this on the southwest corridor thread that the major change is that Main Street is now the preferred route instead of Union Station. Couldn't find this thread when I posted last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidW Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 (edited) Just came from an Eastern Corridor open house. They've narrowed the route options considerably from last November's open houses. There seemed to be a couple of alternatives for each section of the project. I could almost categorize them as the "better" option and the "easier" option. "Better" as in "in the right place" or "more direct" and "easier" as in "cheaper" or less difficult politically. My historical sense is that Winnipeg Transit tends to compromise towards "easier" and away from "better" very early in a project. Perhaps that arises from a sense that they really have little to no public or political support they can really count on... Edited June 18, 2018 by DavidW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhood135 Posted May 24, 2019 Report Share Posted May 24, 2019 Bumping an old thread here, but does anyone know the status of this project? The Transit website says there was supposed to be another round of consultation in the Fall, and council should've voted on the final alignment in the winter. Yet, the last update was almost a year ago. I really hope things are just being delayed and this project isn't dead yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armorand Posted May 24, 2019 Report Share Posted May 24, 2019 11 hours ago, jhood135 said: Bumping an old thread here, but does anyone know the status of this project? The Transit website says there was supposed to be another round of consultation in the Fall, and council should've voted on the final alignment in the winter. Yet, the last update was almost a year ago. I really hope things are just being delayed and this project isn't dead yet... Well considering how Louise and Arlington bridges are literally ripping apart at the seams... we could probably imagine what's about to happen next. Sadly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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