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I have to say, while the service is needed, the terminal planning could've been better.

Orillia's route is only gonna run from Lakehead to RVH, which doesn't help people who actually live in Orillia who would need to take two Orillia Transit buses to get to it from most parts of the city, and then to get elsewhere into Barrie requires a two or three-bus journey on our clusterfuck of a system.

Collingwood would've just been better off if it didn't require a transfer in the middle of nowhere on the outskirts of Wasaga to get to, it'd be best if it just went to Collingwood on one bus. However, the Barrie end of the route is decent as it ends at Allandale Station, which is central enough and will be getting improved soon.

Having the Orillia and Midland LINX routes terminating at say the Downtown Barrie Terminal instead of RVH, would mean a 5 minute transfer along Bradford Street at the most between the two routes on the most frequent section of the current Barrie Transit network, while if we had the Barrie to Orillia route running to Downtown Orillia, it'd make the lives of Orillia travellers easier as they wouldn't have to take two buses across the city to get to it, they could just go Downtown on any bus.

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The recent tender for buses for Simcoe LINX and Midland Transit was awarded to Grande West for 30ft Vicinity buses. Simcoe will receive 3 buses and Midland 1 bus. According to a council report, r

The first route between Barrie and Penetanguishene will launch August 7, 2018.

County of Simcoe orders 4 Vicinity buses http://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/grande-west-receives-16-million-vicinity-order-652446153.html

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Has anybody noticed if we've gotten more buses yet?

I haven't been on Route 1 since the free trial ended a year ago so Idk if they're running the same four Vicinitys or if we got more.

The service changes are like only a month away so they should be starting training now I think, yet I haven't seen anything on the news or seen any new buses in town.

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The Enviro 200s are starting to arrive. There's one that's already been delivered that was shown on CTV News on that Tiny Township story, and when I was on the 400 today heading down to the GTA to explore, we spotted another E200 being delivered.

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Between Barrie and Collingwood, highway 26 can be very snowy in the winter, are these buses fitted with knobby tires?  Will they be able to sustain highway speeds between Barrie and Orillia? 

The service between Collingwood and Barrie would be useful on weekends. Does the region think that people dont travel on weekends?

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I made a trip up to Simcoe County to observe the new LINX routes, after already riding route 1 in November. It really is impressive the scale at which Simcoe County is launching the LINX service and it will be a great improvement for mobility in the region.

I started by riding route 2 and 4 from Barrie to Collingwood. Route 2 was a 30' 6006 and route 4 was a 35', 7003. Route 2 and route 4 are supposed to connect in Wasaga Beach but it does not always work out. Most people I observed were transferring between the 2 routes and it should really be a thorough service from Barrie-Collingwood via Wasaga or at least interline routes 2 or 4 when they both run so people don't get stuck waiting a hour for a connection (or miss the last bus of the day!)

I rode 30' 6007 and 35' 7002 on route 3 to Orillia. The route is very tightly timed with a odd 50 minute frequency and both buses were running 10-15 minutes behind schedule. Unfortunately 6007 broke down and was replaced by a Vicinity for its last trip.

It was my first ride on a Enviro 200 and I did like that they have Aries seats with padding which are comftorable for the long distances and the AC worked very well. I found the 35' version rode a lot better than the 30' and in talking to 2 drivers, they both preferred the Vicinity over the Enviro 200 due to the better handling and suspension.

For the VIN collectors:

6007 SFEY14127KNN37329 03/2019

7002 SFEY24124KNN37396 05/2019

 

 

 

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Simcoe LINX 6007 INTERIOR.jpg

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On 7/22/2019 at 10:08 PM, Shaun said:

Between Barrie and Collingwood, highway 26 can be very snowy in the winter, are these buses fitted with knobby tires?  Will they be able to sustain highway speeds between Barrie and Orillia? 

The service between Collingwood and Barrie would be useful on weekends. Does the region think that people dont travel on weekends?

It would be nice and convenient for those commuting to the Blue Mountain ski resort on weekends!

 

If a big-scale winter sports were to happen at Blue Mountain one day (I.e. X-Games, Dew Tour, etc.), then I would imagine if the organizers could partner up with the transit authority! Also, the GO/Ontario Northland partnership could be strengthened!

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On 8/17/2019 at 2:41 PM, Silly Tilley said:

I made a trip up to Simcoe County to observe the new LINX routes, after already riding route 1 in November. It really is impressive the scale at which Simcoe County is launching the LINX service and it will be a great improvement for mobility in the region.

I started by riding route 2 and 4 from Barrie to Collingwood. Route 2 was a 30' 6006 and route 4 was a 35', 7003. Route 2 and route 4 are supposed to connect in Wasaga Beach but it does not always work out. Most people I observed were transferring between the 2 routes and it should really be a thorough service from Barrie-Collingwood via Wasaga or at least interline routes 2 or 4 when they both run so people don't get stuck waiting a hour for a connection (or miss the last bus of the day!)

I rode 30' 6007 and 35' 7002 on route 3 to Orillia. The route is very tightly timed with a odd 50 minute frequency and both buses were running 10-15 minutes behind schedule. Unfortunately 6007 broke down and was replaced by a Vicinity for its last trip.

It was my first ride on a Enviro 200 and I did like that they have Aries seats with padding which are comftorable for the long distances and the AC worked very well. I found the 35' version rode a lot better than the 30' and in talking to 2 drivers, they both preferred the Vicinity over the Enviro 200 due to the better handling and suspension.

For the VIN collectors:

6007 SFEY14127KNN37329 03/2019

7002 SFEY24124KNN37396 05/2019

 

 

 

SIMCOE LINX 6006.jpg

Simcoe LINX 6007 INTERIOR.jpg

SIMCOE LINX 7003.jpg

Does the connection point have a shelter? A heater? 

Can you track the buses on an app?

If one bus is late, will the other bus radio the other bus and ask them to wait? 

If the are 20 min late now, just wait until winter. There should be weekend service to meet the GO train in Barrie. 

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Took a visit up to Barrie yesterday to check out the LINX routes in operation.

Ridership seemed pretty light - no more than 2 or 3 people per bus that I saw, but it being New Year's Eve probably factored into that. Even without the typical traffic and ridership associated with the schools, one of the route 3 buses was running about 10 minutes late in the early afternoon. The other route 3 bus appeared to be 5003, a ProMaster. Guess either they're trying to use smaller vehicles in lighter ridership periods or something else is going on that I'm not aware of. Both buses on route 2 between Allandale Waterfront GO and Wasaga Beach were using route 4 displays for unknown reasons.

Sightings:

1: 6002, 6007
2: 6004, 7001
3: 5003, 6005

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On 1/1/2020 at 11:44 AM, Articulated said:

Took a visit up to Barrie yesterday to check out the LINX routes in operation.

Ridership seemed pretty light - no more than 2 or 3 people per bus that I saw, but it being New Year's Eve probably factored into that. Even without the typical traffic and ridership associated with the schools, one of the route 3 buses was running about 10 minutes late in the early afternoon. The other route 3 bus appeared to be 5003, a ProMaster. Guess either they're trying to use smaller vehicles in lighter ridership periods or something else is going on that I'm not aware of. Both buses on route 2 between Allandale Waterfront GO and Wasaga Beach were using route 4 displays for unknown reasons.

Sightings:

1: 6002, 6007
2: 6004, 7001
3: 5003, 6005

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Do they support presto cards?

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36 minutes ago, Articulated said:

No. Barrie also does not support Presto (despite connecting directly to GO, and having a co-fare agreement with them).

Both systems have their own independent farecards.

Who was the genius that made that decision?

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37 minutes ago, TTC 9701 said:

The people who did not want to spend taxpayers money for the machines for each bus just for Presto to take a certain % of each fare.

I have a feeling if we end up getting a smart-card system, it'll probs be LINX's card and would likely apply County-wide. We tend to take a more "local" rather than "provincial" line of thinking in government up here.

I'll disclose what I think of Presto.... it's an eternal f**kup and our heads were wise not to implement it. The TTC's STILL having problems with it after what? 5? 10 years after implementing it?

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17 hours ago, MCI102A3 said:

I have a feeling if we end up getting a smart-card system, it'll probs be LINX's card and would likely apply County-wide. We tend to take a more "local" rather than "provincial" line of thinking in government up here.

I'll disclose what I think of Presto.... it's an eternal f**kup and our heads were wise not to implement it. The TTC's STILL having problems with it after what? 5? 10 years after implementing it?

That will probably happen. People need to get out of their heads that everywhere has to support Presto. We don't have then here and will never. We do the Co-fare like many properties.

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Question: is there any fare integration between Barrie Transit and Simcoe County Linx? Anyone wanting to go between Orillia and the GO Station or to the Wasaga Beach bus would have to go through Barrie Transit, and the site isn't clear on transfers between Linx and the local agencies (Barrie, Orillia, Wasaga Beach, Midland, etc.).

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28 minutes ago, UrbanToronto said:

Question: is there any fare integration between Barrie Transit and Simcoe County Linx? Anyone wanting to go between Orillia and the GO Station or to the Wasaga Beach bus would have to go through Barrie Transit, and the site isn't clear on transfers between Linx and the local agencies (Barrie, Orillia, Wasaga Beach, Midland, etc.).

Unfortunately there's no fare integration in Barrie, however most of Simcoe County's municipal systems have an agreement with LINX where you pay a reduced rate upon transfer. Orillia I think is one of them, you get a buck off your fare I think it is.

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On 1/8/2020 at 2:13 PM, MCI102A3 said:

Unfortunately there's no fare integration in Barrie, however most of Simcoe County's municipal systems have an agreement with LINX where you pay a reduced rate upon transfer. Orillia I think is one of them, you get a buck off your fare I think it is.

That is correct since I seen someone took advantage. Didn't see any marketing. Paying the $4 plus asking for a special ticket (printed out) which is then used on the Orillia Transit bus (ticket has to be inserted) along with the $1.60 (yes, Orillia increased their cash fare to $2.60).

Haven't tried with a Linx card, but will have to ask the operator on the Linx bus if they are provided for those using the smart card. Though I am more used to paying with tickets versus cash on Orillia Transit. 

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I was on the Linx bus (Barrie to Midland) and saw an out of service bus making a left turn onto Highway 12. Training operators on the routing via Highway 12.

Somehow, I would think they would postpone it due to COVID-19 reducing transit demand along with how fares have been free for several months due to the pandemic. Service being reduced on all routes.

Route 1 running every 90 minutes with two buses all-day.

Route 2 starting with a later departure at 7:30 AM instead of 5:30 AM. Frequency is unchanged at every 60 minutes with two buses.

Route 3 only running two departures in the morning both directions. Afternoon is two from Barrie and 3 from Orillia. Frequency is every 100 minutes with one bus.

Route 4: Later departure (7 AM from Collingwood and 7:30 AM from Wasaga Beach first departures).

Regular fares resume July 2nd. Especially when transit agencies worldwide are strapped for cash and trying to limit expenditures. 

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RFP 2020-038 TRANSIT BUSES FOR COUNTY OF SIMCOE AND TOWN OF MIDLAND

  • The County of Simcoe and Town of Midland are conducting a joint procurement for 30' low floor buses to be delivered in 2021-2023.
  • 2021 delivery of 3 buses to Simcoe County and 1 bus to Midland. Delivery is required by June 15, 2021.
  • 2022 delivery of 1 bus to Simcoe County.
  • 2023 requirements to be determined.

Bids are due on July 24. Of note, this is the first time Simcoe County has purchased transit buses on their own. The ADL Enviro 200s and the RAM Promasters were purchased through the Metrolinx joint procurement, and the Vicinity buses were purchased off Oakville's order.

https://simcoecounty.bidsandtenders.ca/Module/Tenders/en/Tender/Detail/f3f1872d-ddc3-4ded-991c-d9012d2724c1

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Route 5: Bradford to Alliston is starting August 4th 

Route 6: Midland to Orillia is starting sometime in the Fall (date to be confirmed)

Hours are from 7:20 AM until 5:20 PM running every 60 minutes on Route 5. Running between Bradford Go Station and New Tecumseth Recreation Centre. The cash fare is $4.00 (two different fare zones) if going between Bradford and Alliston.

Most likely the first month will be free to build the market. Especially based on the previous new routes added (Route 2, 3 and 4 added last year along with 1 added in 2018). I have been using Linx and it is pretty reliable and reasonable cost wise. 

https://newtecumseth.civicweb.net/document/92680/2020-Deputation-Request-Form- Simcoe County LINX T.pdf?handle=23DB0AD2A5AE4266B4D84662732230C0&fbclid=IwAR2w2P4fy5o0_yLc3zGTuCZ1JQbZ4W24YJUe9PI-4pzxcBltXVtNVpLhLLs

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Knowing about the deferred orders and the service cuts, I wonder what they'll be running these new routes with?

They don't seem to've ordered new buses for these routes, so would they just be using the existing surplus to operate the routes for the time being until service increases?

(EDIT: Nevermind, I saw the eight bus order in the PDF)

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Starting September 8th, regular scheduled service starts on Route 2 Barrie to Wasaga Beach and Route 4 Wasaga Beach to Collingwood. Previously Route 2 had a later departure (7:30 AM instead of 5:30 AM).

Route 1 will have an additional trip in the morning (6 AM) and afternoon (5:57 PM) from Penetanguishene Arena and an additional afternoon trip from RVH in Barrie at 6 PM. The frequency is still every 90 minutes with two buses. 

Route 3 extended to run all day instead of peak periods. Especially the only option for mid-day service between Barrie and Orillia was Ontario Northland during this time. The price of a ticket is pretty expensive depending on how far in advance it is booked. Frequency will still remain unchanged at every 100 minutes with one bus.

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7 hours ago, GTAmissions1 said:

Starting September 8th, regular scheduled service starts on Route 2 Barrie to Wasaga Beach and Route 4 Wasaga Beach to Collingwood. Previously Route 2 had a later departure (7:30 AM instead of 5:30 AM).

Route 1 will have an additional trip in the morning (6 AM) and afternoon (5:57 PM) from Penetanguishene Arena and an additional afternoon trip from RVH in Barrie at 6 PM. The frequency is still every 90 minutes with two buses. 

Route 3 extended to run all day instead of peak periods. Especially the only option for mid-day service between Barrie and Orillia was Ontario Northland during this time. The price of a ticket is pretty expensive depending on how far in advance it is booked. Frequency will still remain unchanged at every 100 minutes with one bus.

Those times should at least match the first and last train into Barrie. 

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