Gsgeek540 Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 Will this round of renos at Marlborough include track-level access? I really see no good reason not to include it - and the mall's objections, on grounds it facilitates criminals' escapes into the CTrain, are especially ludicrous.The answers and reasoning remains the same as the last time you posted about this 3 years ago.There remain 3 reasons why they opted not to extend that platform south to 5 avenue NE The configuration of the intersection of 36 street at 5 avenue NE remains the biggest issue. Westbound traffic does not have access to a southbound turn at the intersection. Only Northbound, Southbound and Eastbound Traffic, whether its through traffic to the mall or to across the tracks NB 36 street NE, or to SB 36 street NE, are controlled by traffic signals. For that reason, pedestrian traffic is diverted to the southbound, non platform side of that intersection. If the platform was to be extended to 5 avenue, they would have to work with marlborough mall and colleugues at roads and signals to configure a pedestrian right of way accordingly. There is a significant cost to realigning the intersection. Marlborough is not prepared to allow WB traffic from Marlborough turn to SB 36 street NE so that hinders any reconfiguration plan right there. The second reason is the alignment of the inbound and outbound tracks through 5 avenue NE level crossing. Immediately following the south end of the platform, the inbound and outbound tracks begin to move closer and closer together. By the time it reaches 5 avenue NE level crossing, its slightly over a train width of room for any sort of platform or pedx. This same issue is more noticeable with 26 avenue level crossing at Rundle Station. Whitehorn never had that issue because the tracks begin to come together just north of Whitehorn Interlocking. Tracks would have to be realigned at a high cost. The security reasoning was echoed by Transit Public Safety, Calgary Police as well as Marlborough Mall personnel at recent transit staff and public consultations in regards to the renovations. Marlborough station currently has the third highest crime rate at any LRT stations along the system. Limiting entry and exit points was a key point in all three parties presentations and echoed by community members at large wholeheartedly. Pedestrian safety, in regards to regular vehicles, was another key point given the fact that in its current configuration, pedestrians are strictly prohibitted on the north side of 5 avenue level crossing and there is no through traffic from Westbound Marlborough Mall to 5 avenue NE. Pedestrian safety, in regards to an additional LRT crossing was, however, the biggest safety concerns. There have been multiple fatal and injury accidents at the pedestrian crossing at whitehorn station, and tens and hundreds of close calls. It has been said and put on the record in the past of the regrets of the south whitehorn station pedestrian crossing. Having driven trains for the last several years and having struck a cyclist at Whitehorn station PedX, i commend transit for listening to affected stakeholders (transit staff, public safety departments, residents, riders, local businesses ,etc) accordingly. Clearly, this decision echos that safety is the number one priority, over convenience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmyC62 Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 Went to Marlborough today, took a pic - quite cramped now, being reduced to half its useable width! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Calon Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 No kidding it's cramped in there. One escalator, going up, and only two people-widths of the stairs are left, plus well over half the upper concourse has been blocked off. Have to wonder why they're not moving the elevator... Given the security concerns there, that station would definitely be a worthwhile place to reduce the places someone can hide from public view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1604 Posted October 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 Some photos of the renovations at Marlborough. And the new ramp at Rundle. Some nice landscaping at the bottom of either side. The station construction here looks very near indistinguishable from Marlborough. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Walton Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 Will the down escalator at Marlborough be replaced? From some of the pictures I saw in that station, it might not be. That will make it about as useful as Tuscany, which has no escalators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick B Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 39 minutes ago, Mark Walton said: Will the down escalator at Marlborough be replaced? From some of the pictures I saw in that station, it might not be. That will make it about as useful as Tuscany, which has no escalators. Only up escalators are better than no escalators. Heritage, Southland, and Anderson, all very busy stations, don't have and never had down escalators either. Neither does Whitehorn as of its renovations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmyC62 Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 Would be a significant cost savings I imagine, to have to pay for only half the escalators' maintenance over the next several decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gsgeek540 Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 No intentions of replacing down escalators. Tuscany doesn't have escalators based off of feedback from pre-construction consultations. The compromise was 2 no restriction (request using help phone) elevators in the station. They feedback since the station has opened has been fantastic. No escalators has virtually been a non issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1604 Posted January 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 I don't mind the removal of the down escalator, but I wish they were relocating the elevator like they did at Whitehorn. The access restricted, hidden corridor is less than ideal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1604 Posted January 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 No pictures, but I was briefly in Rundle station tonight. They've opened up the renovated side of the station and moved to working on the other side. It looks really good; very similar to Whitehorn. What stood out to me the most are the new doors to both the station and the platform - very industrial and heavy-duty looking. They look a bit out of place. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCT-3122-D800-10240 Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 35 minutes ago, 1604 said: What stood out to me the most are the new doors to both the station and the platform - very industrial and heavy-duty looking. They look a bit out of place. Those doors are perfect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1604 Posted January 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 1 minute ago, BCT-3122-D800-10240 said: Those doors are perfect! Yeah, you could make that argument too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1604 Posted May 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2017 Some photos of Rundle from a few days ago. I assume Marlborough is looking pretty similar at this point. New platform doors. Not a fan. They're uninviting and already grimy because they show all the dirt and water stains. Bottom of the station. New door into the elevator corridor. Provides much better sight lines into the hallway. It looks like there are some new windows next to it too. I didn't venture into the corridor but it looks like they just painted the walls and put in some new floor tiles, maybe did something to the ceiling as well. Top of the station. Old up escalator being dismantled. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1604 Posted July 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 https://www.calgarytransit.com/news/renovations-ctrain-stations We are renovating the interiors of some CTrain stations to modernize them and improve accessibility, lighting, safety, communication systems and more. All stations will remain open during construction and CTrain service will not be impacted. The station heads at SAIT/ACAD/Jubilee and Anderson will be closed for a period of time, but the platforms will remain open and accessible. Station Construction starts* Construction ends* Rundle June 6, 2016 Fall 2017 Marlborough June 6, 2016 Fall 2017 SAIT / ACAD / Jubilee July 2017 December 2017 39 Avenue August 2017 TBD Zoo August 2017 TBD Barlow / Max Bell August 2017 TBD Anderson January 2018 TBD University January 2018 TBD *Construction timelines are approximate and may be revised as design and construction progresses. Rundle and Marlborough Stations Renovations to the interior of Rundle and Marlborough stations began on June 6, 2016. Both stations will remain open during construction and will be renovated at the same time. Construction is scheduled to be complete by the end of fall 2017. Upgrades to the stations will include: Modifications to the station layout to improve the flow of pedestrian traffic Upgrades to building finishes to provide a cleaner, more comfortable station, such as new floor tiles, benches and wall panels Improved lighting and better use of natural light Installation of more CCTV cameras to improve safety and security Updated communication systems and new signs Upgrades to heating and ventilation systems For more information, view Rundle & Marlborough Renovations - Frequently Asked Questions. SAIT / ACAD / Jubilee Station Renovations to SAIT /ACAD / Jubilee Station will begin in July, 2017 and are expected to be complete by December, 2017. The platform will remain open and CTrains will serve this station as usual. However, the station head will be closed for renovations for approximately two months, starting mid July. During this time the station can only be accessed via the northwest entrance – view map. We aim to open the station head in September for the convenience of students, but the opening date is currently undetermined. Upgrades to the station will include: New flooring, stairs and handrails Improved lighting Replacing older CCTV cameras to improve safety and security Upgrades to electrical and communication systems New signs Refurbished elevator Why are these stations being renovated and how is it funded? Rundle and Marlborough – These are two of the busiest and oldest stations on our system. They opened in 1985 and are due for life cycle upgrades. The funding for these renovations was primarily obtained through grants from the Provincial government and City funding. Anderson, University, SAIT/ACAD/Jubilee, 39 Avenue, Zoo and Barlow/Max Bell – In 2016 we received funding from the Public Transit Infrastructure Fund to complete CTrain station upgrades. These six stations were chosen for renovations based on their need for lifecycle upgrades. sait-station-map.pdf rundle_marlborough_faq.pdf sait-station-map.pdf rundle_marlborough_faq.pdf sait-station-map.pdf rundle_marlborough_faq.pdf sait-station-map.pdf rundle_marlborough_faq.pdf sait-station-map.pdf rundle_marlborough_faq.pdf sait-station-map.pdf rundle_marlborough_faq.pdf sait-station-map.pdf rundle_marlborough_faq.pdf sait-station-map.pdf rundle_marlborough_faq.pdf sait-station-map.pdf rundle_marlborough_faq.pdf sait-station-map.pdf rundle_marlborough_faq.pdf 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick B Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 Very curious to see what will be done to 39 Avenue! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicinity Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 9 minutes ago, Nick B said: Very curious to see what will be done to 39 Avenue! Build a roof! We have the technology ! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M. Parsons Posted July 21, 2017 Report Share Posted July 21, 2017 5 hours ago, vicinity said: Build a roof! We have the technology ! You're suggesting they didn't have the technology to build a roof 30 years ago? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake M Posted July 21, 2017 Report Share Posted July 21, 2017 SAIT station building is now closed off 1 hour ago, M. Parsons said: You're suggesting they didn't have the technology to build a roof 30 years ago? Yeah why don't half the stations have a roof? I never did get why that's the case in a winter city Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkKeyo Posted July 22, 2017 Report Share Posted July 22, 2017 39 avenue could use some realtime info signs too. That station is basically just a concrete platform with old bus shelters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick B Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 Quote August 8-21: Fish Creek Station Pedestrian Bridge and Bus Terminal Closure and Detour Temporary service change Affected route(s): 201 Affected station(s): Fish Creek-Lacombe In effect: August 08, 2017 - August 21, 2017 From August 8 to 21, the walkway and ramp to Fish Creek-Lacombe Station will be closed to facilitate the Pedestrian Bridge Rehabilitation – Fish Creek Bridge works. Please use the south entrance to the station. Bus stops #9189 and #9187 for Routes 11, 12, 15 & 52 in the bus terminal will be closed and detoured to using the service road adjacent to Fish Creek-Lacombe Station. Why is this disruption necessary? The walkway and ramp will need to be closed to facilitate bridge rehabilitation and maintenance work. To assist customers with restricted mobility, Routes 11, 12, 15 & 52 have been detoured. View map http://www.calgarytransit.com/service-updates?nid=84299 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1604 Posted August 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2017 Rundle Station last week: Other side of the top of the building is now open. They really shrank the size of the former concession stand, it feels a lot nicer up there now. New lighting installed too. Not much has changed in the lower part since my last update, they're still working away on the up escalator. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1604 Posted December 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 Marlborough Station is finished and looks great - some photos: 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captaintrolley Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 Has the same look and feel as many of Vancouver's stations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCT-3122-D800-10240 Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 On 12/1/2017 at 6:04 PM, 1604 said: Marlborough Station is finished and looks great - some photos: Oh my! It does look quite good! Excellent photos! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1604 Posted December 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2017 Marlborough and Rundle are listed as completed on the website now. Some new info has been posted about other renovations: Quote Zoo and Barlow/Max Bell stations Renovations to Zoo and Barlow/Max Bell stations began in September, 2017 and should be complete in March, 2018. The stations will remain open and CTrain service will not be affected. Upgrades to the station will include: Improved lighting to meet our LED lighting standards New roofing systems to address leaking concerns where required Upgraded ceiling, floor and wall finishes with increased durability and reduced maintenance requirements Modified layout of security cameras to improve safety and security in the stations Upgraded station signage and wayfinding signs Improved mechanical and electrical systems to enhance station reliability Introduction of new tactile surfaces and high visibility finishes to meet accessibility standards University Station Renovations to the interior of University Station will begin in January 2018 and are expected to be complete by October 2018. The station will remain open during construction and CTrain service will not be affected. Upgrades to the station will include: New building finishes including the ceiling, floor and walls Upgraded electrical systems and lighting Modified station layout to open the space and improve the flow of pedestrian traffic New railings and doors Upgraded elevator Anderson Station Renovations to the interior of Anderson Station will begin in January 2018 and are expected to be complete by October 2018. The station head will be closed as required during construction, but the platform will be accessible from the street-level entrance throughout the duration of construction. CTrains will continue to serve the station as usual. Upgrades to the station will include: A new station layout to improve the flow of pedestrian traffic New elevator and the removal of escalators Updated building finishes, including the ceiling, floor and walls Upgraded electrical systems and lighting Anderson in particular sounds quite ambitious 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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