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I don't see this one surviving that long. It'll be just like PeoplExpress, which lasted about 3 months in 2014. Also PEX contracted out to Vision Airlines and used their Boeing 737s.

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1 hour ago, dbdb said:

Mixed messages coming from NewLeaf.  In an interview, Jim Young claims it's because that's the slow time for leisure travel and they don't want to fly aircraft with only 30 passengers.  See the video here:

http://globalnews.ca/news/2945851/newleaf-temporarily-suspends-flights-out-of-regina-and-saskatoon/

 

I haven't heard them adding any new routes or increasing service elsewhere so I'm inclined not to take Mr. Young's reasoning in that interview for what its worth.  Doesn't seem to make any sense - any time an airplane is sitting on the ground, its not making money nor does it have the potential to make money.

Interesting point though, he mentioned they didn't want to fly planes with only 30 people onboard, which I can understand - but it makes one wonder if the public is only willing to fly NewLeaf up to a certain dollar value - in other words, once the cheap tickets are sold out, they'd rather fly WS or AC.  I wonder what the loads on other flights are like.

I agree, very mixed messages and the economist has a very valid point - it can potentially hurt their credibility - but I'm sure many will be willing to risk booking if the price is right - but if thats enough to generate a profit - only time will tell.

 

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19 hours ago, 9924 said:

Doesn't seem to make any sense - any time an airplane is sitting on the ground, its not making money nor does it have the potential to make money.

It can make sense for NewLeaf since they are effectively chartering it's likely they don't have a fixed cost whether they fly or not.  In contrast, a conventional airline may be paying a lease or have capital investment in their aircraft.  In between, you get an airline like Delta with a lot of older aircraft that don't cost much to have around but provide additional capacity when needed.

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35 minutes ago, dbdb said:

It can make sense for NewLeaf since they are effectively chartering it's likely they don't have a fixed cost whether they fly or not.  In contrast, a conventional airline may be paying a lease or have capital investment in their aircraft.  In between, you get an airline like Delta with a lot of older aircraft that don't cost much to have around but provide additional capacity when needed.

I get that - all depends on the contract they have.  If one is to believe the story that they don't have the aircraft available, one would tend to believe that they aren't planning far enough into the future (which is not that far ahead in the airline industry LOL) to assure they have enough capacity - or that their loads haven't been as strong as they'd hoped - or that their bookings for the next months aren't as strong as they'd hoped which, being more or less a ticket broker, makes sense but can backfire on them.  Guess we'll have to see.

I'd love to see what kind of contracts they have with the carriers.

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NewLeaf will offer bus service from Surrey,BC  (SRY) to Abbottsford Airport (YXX) and from Abbottsford Airport (YXX) to Surrey, BC (SRY).

Busses will pick up in Surrey at the corner of University Blvd & 102 Ave (in front of Blends Coffee Shop) dropping off in front of the abbotsford airport.

Busses leaving the Abbotsford airport will depart from directly infront of the terminal arriving at the corner of University Blvd & 102 Ave (in front of Blends Coffee Shop).

To purchase a ticket please book on line at http://gonewleaf.ca/

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On 11/24/2016 at 1:42 PM, TheAverageJoe said:

NewLeaf will offer bus service from Surrey,BC  (SRY) to Abbottsford Airport (YXX) and from Abbottsford Airport (YXX) to Surrey, BC (SRY).

Busses will pick up in Surrey at the corner of University Blvd & 102 Ave (in front of Blends Coffee Shop) dropping off in front of the abbotsford airport.

Busses leaving the Abbotsford airport will depart from directly infront of the terminal arriving at the corner of University Blvd & 102 Ave (in front of Blends Coffee Shop).

To purchase a ticket please book on line at http://gonewleaf.ca/

And that service disappeared pretty quickly.

NewLeaf is running daily flights for the Christmas season.  We'll see how they do. 

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http://globalnews.ca/news/3133663/ultra-low-fare-travel-company-newleaf-launches-flights-from-yyc-saturday/

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‘Ultra low fare’ travel company NewLeaf launches flights from YYC Saturday

The Winnipeg-based low-cost air travel company NewLeaf officially started flying out of Calgary Saturday.

The first flight, with airline partner Flair, took off to Hamilton at 2 p.m. from YYC Calgary International Airport.

They’re offering 44 flights to and from Calgary over a three-week holiday period as a testing ground in the domestic market.

The airline says it will offer prices as low as $49 one-way (taxes and fees included) during their “no holiday blackout travel sale” to places such as Abbotsford, Hamilton and Moncton.

In mid-January, NewLeaf will also start flights going to Mesa-Phoenix until the end of April.

The spring and summer schedule will be announced in early January and the airline said they “hope to have Calgary permanently on the schedule.”

READ MORE: Discount airline NewLeaf launches at Edmonton International Airport

NewLeaf is a private Canadian travel company that’s been in operation for five months.

NewLeaf is able to keep costs low by only changing the bare minimum for a seat on a plane.

A carry-on bag can cost anywhere from $31.50 if you pay online ahead of time, up to $90 at the gate.

READ MORE: First NewLeaf flight lands in Saskatoon

Flair is a Canadian airline based in Kelowna, Calgary and Hamilton, that’s been in business since 2003.

 

 

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Canadian low-cost carrier Newleaf on Tuesday (03JAN17) announced the cancellation of planned Phoenix Mesa service, 2.5 weeks prior to service launch. The carrier in November 2016 announced it would operate service from both Calgary and Edmonton, with Boeing 737 aircraft.

Previously planned schedule as follow. 

eff 19JAN17 Calgary – Phoenix Mesa 3 weekly
F8250 YYC0930 – 1132AZA 737 457
F8251 AZA1235 – 1645YYC 737 457

eff 21JAN17 Edmonton – Phoenix Mesa 1 weekly
F8252 YEG0930 – 1145AZA 737 6
F8253 AZA1300 – 1730YEG 737 6

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/270727/newleaf-cancels-phoenix-mesa-launch-in-jan-2017/

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Also notable is that Hamilton-Orlando/Melbourne has too been shelved. 

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16 hours ago, DL1892 said:

Also notable is that Hamilton-Orlando/Melbourne has too been shelved. 

As soon as NewLeaf closes down look for Westjet to pull back those flights.

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Canadian low-cost carrier Newleaf has cancelled planned service to the US later this month, as the airline cancelled Hamilton – Melbourne FL service. This route was previously scheduled to take off on 15JAN17. Previously reported, the airline also cancelled planned service to Phoenix Mesa.

Previously planned Melbourne FL schedule as follow.

F8256 YHM0800 – 1044MLB 737 7
F8257 MLB1144 – 1447YHM 737 7

 

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/270746/newleaf-cancels-planned-melbourne-fl-launch-in-jan-2017/

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Man, just about time to stick a fork in her, she's done

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