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Last summer I was doing Bloor night bus and east bound stop at Yonge and Bloor kept getting moved almost daily. I have no idea who would come out and actually move the signs but you'd get people standing in 3 different stops and some operators would only stop where the sign was posted. This could be because they don't do this route nightly and didn't know stop was being moved and therefore only stopped when the sign was posted. So who's at fault here? The operator for stopping where the sign is posted? Someone who moved the signs almost daily? Or people that would just blindly stand without looking if the temporary stop sign is posted? I stopped because I saw a big crowd of people standing and I knew there was a temporary stop there the night before. And what did I get for stopping? I got yelled at because 3 or 4 buses drove by before me. 

So my point is people need to pay attention and look if anything is posted at the stop that might indicate that something g is different instead of just standing there out of habit. 

I've seen where a stop is completely blocked off with those big pylons and orange fencing due to construction and people climb inside to wait for the bus and then wonder why the bus is not stopping there to pick them up. 🤦‍♂️

12 minutes ago, nfitz said:

Well, it was a streetcar replacement shuttle, so getting on and off across a live lane, isn't unusual. But it was odd for a shuttle bus ... but there was nothing coming.


I think the main answer, is he didn't know know the area well. But as I'd asked if he was stopping at the next stop (just before where the buses usually turned), and he'd quoted the rules, that this was the last stop, and he wasn't allowed to stop at the next stop, I was a bit mischievous about delaying exiting and asking about the safety of getting off in the middle of the road .... :)

I've done streetcar shuttle and unless I'm driving in the streetcar right of way I'm dropping people off at the curb. Unless there are parked cars blocking the curb lane and I can safely drop while staying in the left lane. It's just common sense. 

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19 minutes ago, Someguy3071 said:

I've seen where a stop is completely blocked off with those big pylons and orange fencing due to construction and people climb inside to wait for the bus and then wonder why the bus is not stopping there to pick them up. 🤦‍♂️

At the same time, I've seen that, and Customer Service is still insisting that people should get on there. Or just around the corner, is another sign, telling people that the blocked off stop is where people should go! You should see my twitter threads with Customer Service about the Princess/Adelaide 143/144 stop. It's almost comical.
 

 

 

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22 hours ago, Someguy3071 said:

Last summer I was doing Bloor night bus and east bound stop at Yonge and Bloor kept getting moved almost daily. I have no idea who would come out and actually move the signs [...]

[...] I've done streetcar shuttle and unless I'm driving in the streetcar right of way I'm dropping people off at the curb. Unless there are parked cars blocking the curb lane and I can safely drop while staying in the left lane. It's just common sense. 

Should be the cab supervisor of the division responsible for the route.

And for streetcar replacement shuttles, I have never seen any act like a streetcar, servicing a curbside stop from the left lane - there's absolutely no reason for doing that as it is unnecessarily unsafe. The only times are when it's an island stop.

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8 hours ago, 63 Ossington said:

Should be the cab supervisor of the division responsible for the route.

And for streetcar replacement shuttles, I have never seen any act like a streetcar, servicing a curbside stop from the left lane - there's absolutely no reason for doing that as it is unnecessarily unsafe. The only times are when it's an island stop.

I know who is supposed to be responsible for placing temporary stop signs up, but I don't see why they would be going out there daily to move the stop. 

As far as servicing a stop from the left lane, it can be done safely. 

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3 hours ago, Someguy3071 said:

I know who is supposed to be responsible for placing temporary stop signs up, but I don't see why they would be going out there daily to move the stop. 

 As far as servicing a stop from the left lane, it can be done safely. 

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If there is no reason to ie) stop is not impacted by changing construction/roadwork activity nearby then I don't know why the stop would be moved either.. as that is usually the reason to move a stop.

Okay, poor wording on my part - I thought it was established that if the right lane was plugged by parked cars it would be less unsafe. But I meant if a bus chose to not pull into the curb lane and decided to be a streetcar by staying on the tracks, and stopping curb-lane traffic by opening its doors to service the stop that way.

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