Zortan Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 3 hours ago, 9924 said: Oh I totally get that, but as the MAX grounding has shown, investing in one aircraft type has its down sides as well, even thought the chances of something like that happening are extremely rare. But we'll just say my comment was just based on personal preference Oh fair enough, and as you can probably tell I'm quite a Boeing guy myself Yes, it can pose its own difficulties, although at the end of the day, once the MAX gets back in the air I think it'll be one of the safest aircraft in the skies just because the FAA and Boeing are under such scrutiny to make sure the plane is safe before it's allowed to fly again. So I feel and hope that the plane won't have any more such issues in the future - and I think it'll go on to serve airlines for a long time to come. And yes to answer your original point, I was actually somewhat surprised personally when AC chose the MAX to replace the A320 family, as few airlines choose to switch aircraft families in this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Oke Posted March 16, 2020 Report Share Posted March 16, 2020 The new A330 configuration is now on the AC website I have put the old configuration on the left and the new one on the right 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Oke Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 C-FITW a 777-300ER in the new livery has been ferried to YMX for some reason. This plane has been flying the YUL-FRA route since at least the 12th maybe earlier. My guess is for maintenance checks or disinfection because of a possible coronavirus case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9924 Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 32 minutes ago, John Oke said: C-FITW a 777-300ER in the new livery has been ferried to YMX for some reason. This plane has been flying the YUL-FRA route since at least the 12th maybe earlier. My guess is for maintenance checks or disinfection because of a possible coronavirus case Seeing that a big chunk of AC's flights will be cancelled over the coming days, you'll be seeing a lot of ferry flights as the fleet slowly becomes inactive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doppelkupplung Posted March 20, 2020 Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 I'm quite curious to see which airlines will survive all this and which won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zortan Posted March 20, 2020 Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Doppelkupplung said: I'm quite curious to see which airlines will survive all this and which won't. Yes, it's quite scary - we could really see so many major carriers gone bankrupt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Oke Posted March 20, 2020 Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Zortan said: Yes, it's quite scary - we could really see so many major carriers gone bankrupt. I've heard rumors of Norwegian, Etihad (Highly doubt it given the people who finance it.), Possibly American Airlines because before all of this it was rumored they where heading for another bankruptcy. Alitalia was going to be one before it was rescued by the Italian Government. We have only seen Trans State Airlines(Capacity Contract with United) and Flybe go under so far. Apparently VS is permanently canceling it's LHR-EWR route and grounding 75% of its fleet. Delta, United and American are pressuring the US government for a bailout. We are heading for uncharted territory! I wonder if we'll see a early retirement of some of the 767-300ER, E190's and A320 family as well As well 2 other planes have been ferried over to YMX an A330 registered as C-GHKW(could be going for the new interior as well) and a A320 registered as C-FXCD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zortan Posted March 20, 2020 Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 Yeah, it sure is uncharted territory. I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens - hopefully it turns out decently well but crossed fingers aren't going to help airlines in this one. I imagine we could see some early retirements, however I also think they might just store some of the planes, especially with the uncertain future of the MAX - when the COVID-19 crisis is over they'll still need planes and the MAX probably won't be ready for service for a while still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9924 Posted March 20, 2020 Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 Sad to hear, but it was inevitable: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/more-than-5-100-air-canada-flight-attendants-to-be-laid-off-amid-massive-covid-19-slowdown-1.5504051 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Oke Posted March 20, 2020 Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 I’ve seen several photos on Twitter of several AC,WS,TS and WG planes parked at YYZ. And there are rumours of YKF shuttling down runway 14/32 to store planes on. Personally as well I would not be surprised if some E175/E190’s, Dash 8’s and CRJ’s stored possibly at YOO if they use minimum takeoff weights because I have seen the CRJ and Dash 8’s there before either on diversion or a private ones and with a minimum takeoff weight the Embraer planes can also takeoff and land there as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zortan Posted March 20, 2020 Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 Seems like a bunch of airports are turning into temporary aircraft boneyards. Yikes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Oke Posted March 20, 2020 Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 C-GFUR(A330-300) and C-FNNU(777-300ER) as well as another unidentified A320 are also being ferried to YMX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Oke Posted March 20, 2020 Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 Got a question with these groundings of some of the fleet could we see the A330 refurbishment start possibly and the new interiors installed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zortan Posted March 20, 2020 Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 I honestly doubt it since everything is so shut down. However, after this crisis is over demand might take a while to recover so that could be a good time for re-painting, new interiors, heavy maintenance, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Oke Posted March 21, 2020 Report Share Posted March 21, 2020 I have also noticed that Trois-Rivieres (YRQ) is being used for storage for the E-Jets and some A320’s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Oke Posted March 21, 2020 Report Share Posted March 21, 2020 Muskoka(YQA) is being used for storage by Sky Regional(AC Express) for the E175’s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Oke Posted April 4, 2020 Report Share Posted April 4, 2020 This would be my proposed fleet of Air Canada Rouge and Air Transat merge into one after the buyout is complete Retire the A319,A320, and 767-300ER it would be 27 A321-200 16 A321NEOLR 2 A321NEO 16 A330-200 4 A330-300 total 65 Aircraft the 8 737-800’s could be sold, stay in the new Transat/AC Rouge fleet, join the mainline fleet or be retired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTC Guy Posted April 4, 2020 Report Share Posted April 4, 2020 10 hours ago, John Oke said: This would be my proposed fleet of Air Canada Rouge and Air Transat merge into one after the buyout is complete Retire the A319,A320, and 767-300ER it would be 27 A321-200 16 A321NEOLR 2 A321NEO 16 A330-200 4 A330-300 total 65 Aircraft the 8 737-800’s could be sold, stay in the new Transat/AC Rouge fleet, join the mainline fleet or be retired Most of Rouges current fleet are still fine. If anything I would send the Transat A321NEOLR and A330-300 to mainline Air Canada. The A321, A321NEO A330-200 and 737-800 to Rouge as expansion as Transat would be lost. I would put the A333 and A321NEOLRs on all Transats transatlantic flights under the Air Canada name. Then the A321, A321NEO, A332 and 738’s could be additional service for Rouge. Keep in mind the Transat/Air Canada merger rebrand is not confirmed and if a merger happens, the loss of Transat will mean a loss of a low cost carrier to Sun Destinations. Service will need to be supplemented, the Transat fleet can’t replace Rouges current fleet, it needs to add to it. Rouge will then carry the original Rouge passengers and the Transat passengers on a fleet the same size based on @John Oke‘s thought. If the Transat fleet is mostly added to the Rouge fleet I think it will be more effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zortan Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 I don't believe Transat will be re-branded. From what I heard, part of the merger deal is that AC will retain the Transat brand for X number of years (can't remember how many). On the other hand, it may make more sense to fold Rouge into Transat, given Transat's better reputation and better recognition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Board Admin A. Wong Posted April 5, 2020 Board Admin Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 Last flight into Saint John, NB is today: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/covid-19-air-travel-new-brunswick-1.5517832 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Oke Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 looking at the current route suspensions on the Air Canada Website, It seems like YYZ-SNN won't resume until June 2021 because it shows under "Temporary Airport Operation Suspensions" and under Atlantic this. Shannon - SNN Temporary suspension until June 2021 I don't know if this has to do with the MAX situation or COVID-19. But Air Canada seems to have all non-Winter only flights (ie: YHZ and YOW to Florida seasonal flights) resume by June 4th with the last flights to resume being YYZ-RSW(Last US route to resume), YUL-BCN, YYZ-BRU, YYZ-PRG, YYZ-VCE resuming or starting for the summer season on June 3rd and the last to resume will be YYZ-MXP on June 4th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Oke Posted April 6, 2020 Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 3 A320’s have gone to Marana,AZ for scrap today and several rouge 767-300’s have gone there for storage as well the A320’s being scrapped are C-FDQQ(AC’s first A320) C-FPWE C-FFWJ the 767-300’s going into storage are C-FXCA C-GHLQ C-FMWV C-FMWY C-GHPE and another unidentified E190 is scheduled to head to Marana tomorrow most likely for scrap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OC Transpo Route 95 Posted April 7, 2020 Report Share Posted April 7, 2020 11 hours ago, John Oke said: and another unidentified E190 is scheduled to head to Marana tomorrow most likely for scrap Flightradar24 showing that E190 registered C-FMZD is heading to Marana as AC2337 from Toronto. Scheduled departure from YYZ at 6:30am. EDIT: Departed YYZ at 6:44am. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Oke Posted April 7, 2020 Report Share Posted April 7, 2020 3 hours ago, OC Transpo Route 95 said: Flightradar24 showing that E190 registered C-FMZD is heading to Marana as AC2337 from Toronto. Scheduled departure from YYZ at 6:30am. EDIT: Departed YYZ at 6:44am. Now it’s scheduled to leave Marana for YYZ at 9:40MST, 12:40EDT and scheduled to land at YYZ at 4:14EDT. So it seems like it’s not going to be scrapped for some reason As well there’s a 737MAX8 leaving MZJ for Windsor about 30min before the E190 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OC Transpo Route 95 Posted April 7, 2020 Report Share Posted April 7, 2020 1 hour ago, John Oke said: Now it’s scheduled to leave Marana for YYZ at 9:40MST, 12:40EDT and scheduled to land at YYZ at 4:14EDT. So it seems like it’s not going to be scrapped for some reason As well there’s a 737MAX8 leaving MZJ for Windsor about 30min before the E190 It (the E190) probably went to Marana to collect the air crews that flew the A320s and B767s down, and return them to YYZ. For example: On April 3, British Airways sent 5 of their 747s to Teruel, Spain for storage, then used an A320 (G-EUUR) to bring the crews back to Heathrow (as flight BA9253). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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