Mark Walton Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 I'm pretty sure they existed because one of the employee at TBT actually remembered driving them, it was on a newspaper article. According to the article, the two 60' Brills were bought from Texus, and were returned because it was not suited for the Northwestern Ontario climate. If they were from Texas, then they probably were ACF-Brills, built in Philadelphia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamiltonde60lf Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 Hello all, newbie here, I just wanted to know if Mississauga Transit is taking some of their Artics and converting them into conventional 40' buses. If so, which units are to be converted? I was on the MT website and this was mentioned in a video clip they have about their future plan strategies. I thought I'd post to get some insight from the pros Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion VIII Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 Hello all, newbie here, I just wanted to know if Mississauga Transit is taking some of their Artics and converting them into conventional 40' buses. If so, which units are to be converted? I was on the MT website and this was mentioned in a video clip they have about their future plan strategies. I thought I'd post to get some insight from the pros That was dismissed as an idea a long time ago. I think they did not mean conversion as we could understand it, but replacing the 21 D60HFs with "more efficient 40 foot models." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
general682002 Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 Hello all, newbie here, I just wanted to know if Mississauga Transit is taking some of their Artics and converting them into conventional 40' buses. If so, which units are to be converted? I was on the MT website and this was mentioned in a video clip they have about their future plan strategies. I thought I'd post to get some insight from the pros They've no plans to converted into 40' as it's expensive, they will scrap the 60'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MT0603 Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 Hello all, newbie here, I just wanted to know if Mississauga Transit is taking some of their Artics and converting them into conventional 40' buses. If so, which units are to be converted? I was on the MT website and this was mentioned in a video clip they have about their future plan strategies. I thought I'd post to get some insight from the pros To MT converting means replacing a certain amount of articulated buses with an even higher amount of 40' buses. MT was planning to replace the 35 1997 D60LFs with 53 40' buses, but they've decided not to, so were just going to order 35 new artics to replace the 1997s. Too bad they didn't realize it was a dumb idea when the 1993 D60HFs were in need of replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrabbleship Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 They've no plans to converted into 40' as it's expensive, they will scrap the 60'. Scrapping them would be a royal waste of time and money. They could get good money on the resale market, especially south of the border when some TA might want to try some artics as a pilot project but might not want to spend $$$ on new artics. Canada could use a 12 years/500,000 mile rule like the US, as much as you guys can keep old buses going retiring newer buses seems like a foolish waste. I suggest sending them 400 miles southeast, we in Albany could use them on our packed routes while we iron out the details of our big BRT project . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
general682002 Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 Scrapping them would be a royal waste of time and money. They could get good money on the resale market, especially south of the border when some TA might want to try some artics as a pilot project but might not want to spend $$$ on new artics. Canada could use a 12 years/500,000 mile rule like the US, as much as you guys can keep old buses going retiring newer buses seems like a foolish waste. I suggest sending them 400 miles southeast, we in Albany could use them on our packed routes while we iron out the details of our big BRT project . The thing is that MT policy have a 12 years on artics, anything beyond that would cost them more to maintain. Mind you that MT does not spend money on rebuild unless if they have no choice but to do some bodywork to keep it on the road. Already, the 97 D60LF have deterated down to the ground. I wouldn't use it for 2nd hand unless someone a refurb company would fix it up and resell it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamiltonde60lf Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 I was reading about the 12 yr policy in the Hamilton Spectator, seems Hamilton has gone that route, would this also include the new Hybrid buses too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrabbleship Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 Mind you that MT does not spend money on rebuild unless if they have no choice but to do some bodywork to keep it on the road. Do they do any other maintenance on the buses other than necessary bodywork? Already, the 97 D60LF have deterated down to the ground. I wouldn't use it for 2nd hand unless someone a refurb company would fix it up and resell it. In what ways? Not having ridden them (though I do want to make it to the GTA at some point this year), I can't be a judge. I've personally seen buses that have gone over a year with a broken rear door and other buses that have seen no interior maintenance done since they arrived from the factory. Are they in that bad of shape. A reseller could make a mint on them, buy them cheap and then sell them. If they're unsalvageable, the parts from them would make a killing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion VIII Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 Do they do any other maintenance on the buses other than necessary bodywork? In what ways? Not having ridden them (though I do want to make it to the GTA at some point this year), I can't be a judge. I've personally seen buses that have gone over a year with a broken rear door and other buses that have seen no interior maintenance done since they arrived from the factory. Are they in that bad of shape. A reseller could make a mint on them, buy them cheap and then sell them. If they're unsalvageable, the parts from them would make a killing. They obvioulsy have to change oil, and do minor repairs. The body work is just to keep the bus a) from falling apart and/or looking relatively presentable. The 97 D60LFs are most likely some of the worst buses in the GTA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
general682002 Posted March 8, 2007 Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 I was reading about the 12 yr policy in the Hamilton Spectator, seems Hamilton has gone that route, would this also include the new Hybrid buses too? Starting from 2002 fleet and over will be going for 12 year retirement/replacement. I think that HSR found out the rebuild is more difficult and cost for the 96, which is why they only do half fleet of 25. The LFS will not be rebuild as it continues to deterate and possible the VI due to high maintenance. In what ways? Not having ridden them (though I do want to make it to the GTA at some point this year), I can't be a judge. I've personally seen buses that have gone over a year with a broken rear door and other buses that have seen no interior maintenance done since they arrived from the factory. Are they in that bad of shape. If you visit Mississauga fleet service levels, so far it's majority of 40ft on the heavy routes including the most heavy riders on route 19. They've dropped alot of artics on the road since they got the 03 and 05 D40LF and I haven't seen as much as before. Now they've decided to changed their minds to re-purchase 35 LF artics for their replacement, which I guess they've found out that more 40ft doesn't work as always to keep essential service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrabbleship Posted March 8, 2007 Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 They obvioulsy have to change oil, and do minor repairs. The body work is just to keep the bus a) from falling apart and/or looking relatively presentable. So the interiors look horrible, never seeing a cleaning or such? The more I think about this, the more I think about the early 90s-vintage Gilligs (and one lone Champion Defender minibus) that run down in my old home town of Poughkeepsie, being literally kept together with duct tape and seeing little maintnence--pictures can be seen here. Luckily, they're due to be replaced next year with low floors of some sort, years after they should have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2822 Posted March 8, 2007 Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 The 97 D60LFs are most likely some of the worst buses in the GTA. Everytime I am in Mississauga I see at least one broken down D60LF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MT0603 Posted March 8, 2007 Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 So the interiors look horrible, never seeing a cleaning or such? All of MT's buses are dirty, by the looks of it they get cleaned every month or so. I ride them every day and I like them, but I have to admit it's time for them to go. Although some of them are in good shape while others are falling apart. In some of them the HVAC only works at the front or the rear. You can find photos of them here: http://four.fsphost.com/ryansttcphotos/mt97d60lf.html And a interior shot here: http://www.maj.com/gallery/D60LFR/D60LF/100_0563.jpg You guys also have to remember that MT's 97XXs are one of the first if not the first production model D60LFs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid0920 Posted March 16, 2007 Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 Toronto is getting new artics... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAverageJoe Posted March 16, 2007 Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 Toronto is getting new artics... you mean they may, as its not set in stone yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 what we know HSR LONDON TTC (STREET CARS) MISSISSAUGA VIVA AND OC TRANSPO THAT`S ALL I KNOW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aztek985 Posted June 12, 2007 Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 I KNOW WHO HAS ARTIC`S HSR LONDON TTC (STREET CARS) MISSISSAUGA VIVA AND OC TRANSPO THAT`S ALL I KNOW Yeah dude. Already been said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion V Posted June 12, 2007 Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 Everyone says MT was the first to get D60LFs; that's not true. They were the first to get a massive order of them, but Strathcona County Transit was the first to get one in 1995. I wonder how #950 is doing now if MT's are doing so bad? 1995 D60LF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MT0603 Posted June 12, 2007 Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 Everyone says MT was the first to get D60LFs; that's not true. They were the first to get a massive order of them, but Strathcona County Transit was the first to get one in 1995. I wonder how #950 is doing now if MT's are doing so bad?1995 D60LF Isn't that the demo? EDIT:I found out it is the demo so technically MT does have the first production D60LFs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTCOrionV9408 Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Now that TTC has Novabus articulated buses as of now and on routes 7 29 36 41 53 85 129 199 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seashore_518203 Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 Now that TTC has Novabus articulated buses as of now and on routes 7 29 36 41 53 85 129 199 Wow ... 7.5 years must be a new record to dig up an old thread. How many pages did you have to go back to find this topic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAverageJoe Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 Wow ... 7.5 years must be a new record to dig up an old thread. How many pages did you have to go back to find this topic? Lol, go figure. He at least could have added that DRT/Pulse on getting LFS artics from the Metrolinx order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaT Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 Haha ill chime in! St catherines is a new one on the list over the years as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lap_screw Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 St.catharines has 1 ex 2003 OC transpo D60LF 3 ex 2004 OC transpo D60LF's and 2 XD60's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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