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10 minutes ago, TechSpotlight said:

The infotainment system from the S200s is a very welcome change and the amount of displays (6 in total) is also nice as well.

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Ooh, I didn’t notice the screens at the ends of the cars yesterday! 

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Are they going to paint the camera housing red like on the Series 8s? I thought they would have done that in Sacramento.

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On 5/9/2019 at 10:07 AM, lucx said:

Are they going to paint the camera housing red like on the Series 8s? I thought they would have done that in Sacramento.

I doubt it, but who knows.

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Refurb consist will move from the Blueline to the Redline next week!

It will run on a morning key and afternoon key.

Keep an eye out for it!

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Thursday I was on a 3 car consist of 2205, 2219 and 2227 on the Red Line. Notably as someone previously mentioned during rush hour as it went out of service at somerset sometime after 6PM.

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3 hours ago, nsCEO said:

Thursday I was on a 3 car consist of 2205, 2219 and 2227 on the Red Line.

The third car was mostly likely 2207 rather than 2227. 

I haven't seen any mention of it here but 2213 is back from refurb. 

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Was it really necessary to replace the blue padded seats, with Lego red backbreakers? Otherwise, zero complaints - looks nicer from afar, and the destination sign is now visible from more than 5 metres away. :P

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Finally got to take one of the refurbs yesterday! Noticed there's a new small 'bubble' surveillance cam mounted on the driver's console on the side facing the windshield that's meant to look outwards. Also kind of surprised they didn't add the RFID card access to the doors, but rather a new physical lock.

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20 minutes ago, TimmyC62 said:

Finally got to take one of the refurbs yesterday! Noticed there's a new small 'bubble' surveillance cam mounted on the driver's console on the side facing the windshield that's meant to look outwards. Also kind of surprised they didn't add the RFID card access to the doors, but rather a new physical lock.

I finally got to DRIVE one! Lots of gusto... better dynamic braking, smoother disc brake application thanks to a software upgrade. They also added a cruise control feature just like the S200s. Feels like a better train that's for sure.

The refurbs are basically a series 8 "electronically" including the door functions. Cameras and passenger emergency systems are S200 biased with that said that's the issue they are having running the refurbs and series 8 together. The camera's are not compatible.

Yes, that small bubble in front of the dash is a forward facing camera and a cab camera has been installed as well.

Cab windows appear to be tinted now. Better A/C flow in drivers cab.

These cars have been completely rewired from coupler to coupler. 

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I also noticed on the refurbished seried 5s that they have removed one of the sanders off the A truck and B trucks.

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I'm looking at 2205, 2219, 2207 they sure look like they were repainted?!?!

Very shiny!

 

Ok... for comparison... here is a picture of car 2222 Series 6 (non refurb) sand fillers doors (the 2 doors on the left and right)

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And here is a picture of car 2219 Series 6 (refurb) sand filler door (the 1 door is missing and replaced with a plate)

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So the refurbs definitely had one of the sanders removed from the power trucks. Just like the series 7s and 8s.. ( they came that way from factory)

Here's a closer look of the plate.

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2 hours ago, LRT said:

I'm looking at 2205, 2219, 2207 they sure look like they were repainted?!?!

Very shiny!

 

Ok... for comparison... here is a picture of car 2222 Series 6 (non refurb) sand fillers doors (the 2 doors on the left and right)

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And here is a picture of car 2219 Series 6 (refurb) sand filler door (the 1 door is missing and replaced with a plate)

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So the refurbs definitely had one of the sanders removed from the power trucks. Just like the series 7s and 8s.. ( they came that way from factory)

Here's a closer look of the plate.

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Devil's advocate here, but....what makes you think that they've removed a sander? Maybe they've changed to a larger hopper that can handle both directions and with one fill/access location.

 

(For the record, the way you can tell that they've removed a sander is by the pipes leading to the wheels, not by the hatches at the top.)

 

Dan

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10 minutes ago, smallspy said:

Devil's advocate here, but....what makes you think that they've removed a sander? Maybe they've changed to a larger hopper that can handle both directions and with one fill/access location.

 

(For the record, the way you can tell that they've removed a sander is by the pipes leading to the wheels, not by the hatches at the top.)

 

Dan

That's a hell of a good question.

Series 7s and 8s have one less per truck. Back in the day they said it was a cost-cutting measure.

Just a guess here but if they are to be compatible with the series 8s the mechanical systems would probably have to be compatible as well. Thus removing whatever is not compatible with the 8s. Like I mentioned before the refurbs are built like 8s now (ie. doors use series 8 electronics.)

I believe one of the sand boxes inside the car would be missing as well. Next time I'm around a refurb I'll check. 

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21 minutes ago, TimmyC62 said:

Since the doors are redone, does that mean the reflector-based sensor at the bottom of the doorways is no longer used?

No they're still there.

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2207-2219-2205 was out on the morning rush and will be out on the afternoon rush. On the Redline of course..

2213, 2206 and 2204 sitting at Anderson. Siemens and transit electros working on them

One unidentified refurb car is due to come back to Anderson from Haysboro spur sometime this morning.

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5 minutes ago, LRT said:

2207-2219-2205 was out on the morning rush and will be out on the afternoon rush. On the Redline of course..

2213, 2206 and 2204 sitting at Anderson. Siemens and transit electros working on them

One unidentified refurb car is due to come back to Anderson from Haysboro spur sometime this morning.

I managed to ride 2219 yesterday. The braking is quite smooth! Unfortunately the seat I was sitting in was already all scratched up. Also the announcements downtown are a little late.

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5 minutes ago, Blake M said:

I managed to ride 2219 yesterday. The braking is quite smooth! Unfortunately the seat I was sitting in was already all scratched up. Also the announcements downtown are a little late.

Yes they definitely brake a lot smoother but that's up to the operator.. if you give that train too much brakes it stops quite suddenly. Lots more power lots more dynamic braking as well. 

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4 hours ago, LRT said:

Yes they definitely brake a lot smoother but that's up to the operator.. if you give that train too much brakes it stops quite suddenly. Lots more power lots more dynamic braking as well. 

Is there a published spec somewhere on what sort of traction power those vehicles have now vs. pre-refurb?

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52 minutes ago, chills_on_the_train said:

Is there a published spec somewhere on what sort of traction power those vehicles have now vs. pre-refurb?

The same. Different software.

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I lucked out this morning at Tuscany and am currently aboard 2219! I see the scratched seat, and these benches are certainly firm, but the lack of padding has given my 6'4" self a *small* but very appreciated amount of extra legroom.

Station announcements are nice and clear. Ride feels solid. Braking nice and smooth. So far so good!

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2 minutes ago, chills_on_the_train said:

I lucked out this morning at Tuscany and am currently aboard 2219! I see the scratched seat, and these benches are certainly firm, but the lack of padding has given my 6'4" self a *small* but very appreciated amount of extra legroom.

Station announcements are nice and clear. Ride feels solid. Braking nice and smooth. So far so good!

I'm assuming it's going out of service at Somerset after this run, then.

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14 minutes ago, GrandeWest_B35G said:

I'm assuming it's going out of service at Somerset after this run, then.

You are correct

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