CanadianTransitTycoon Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 2 hours ago, Pantograf said: They haven't given up yet.... Software issues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pantograf Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 2 hours ago, CanadianTransitTycoon said: Software issues? The biggest hurdle ATM seems to be lack of communication. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pantograf Posted August 1, 2018 Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 Car 2212 is ready for its trip south. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pantograf Posted August 15, 2018 Report Share Posted August 15, 2018 Car 2212 is loaded and ready for its trip to sunny California. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRT Posted October 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2018 Haven't seen these out and about in a while... I know there testing but wow.. rough stops... looks like the disc brakes were not applying or realesing evenly between the cars 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRT Posted October 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2018 Cars North 2205-2318-2219-2302 South 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1604 Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 Happened to find this at the siding adjacent to Dartmouth Rd last night: 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRT Posted January 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Quote I know wrong thread but I'm still waiting for 2205/2207/22xx to be put back into service LRT training will be putting the refurbs to the test next week. From what I understand, Siemens says there ready. Tech services says more tweaking is required. Hopefully we'll see these things in service come spring. Until these things are ready for service none are going out for refurb. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRT Posted January 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 AND... Another issue is these trains "operationally" cannot be operated as series 5s and 6s because technically they're not anymore These things are now a hybrid or "frankentrain" of a Series 5 or 6 with series 8 and series 9 components. How will these cars now be identified? Will they be remembered? New name identifier? They're going to have a new section in the rule book for these that's for sure. All this stuff will be figured out in the coming weeks. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRT Posted January 14, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 As I mentioned earlier these things would be out and about with LRT training. Cars 2219 and 2207 out as a deuce today 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandeWest_B35G Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 Sorry it's f this has been ansked before, but how long does this extend their lifespan? Or is this strictly software upgrades? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechSpotlight Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 9 minutes ago, Jaymaud0804 said: Sorry it's f this has been ansked before, but how long does this extend their lifespan? Or is this strictly software upgrades? As member "LRT" mentioned in a previous post, these trains were updated with some components from series 8 and 9s. Not quite sure about how much longer the lifespan of the trains will be extended, I guess we'll have to wait until they're put into revenue service to find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRT Posted January 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 57 minutes ago, Jaymaud0804 said: Sorry it's f this has been ansked before, but how long does this extend their lifespan? Or is this strictly software upgrades? Let's not forget these vehicles went through a refurb in house (new paint and rebuilt bogie's) before they were sent away at least within a few years. About 5 to 7 years ago they received HVAC and new sealed windows. The SD160s are in very good condition. With the new electrical components I would imagine these trains are probably rewired for the most part to accommodate the new software / hardware and not to mention new floor, wall insulation These cars have a lot of life left in them I would suspect at least another 10 to 15 years easily. But knowing Transit and how they treated the U2's they're probably going to last 20 more years. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chills_on_the_train Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 13 hours ago, LRT said: About 5 to 7 years ago they received HVAC and new sealed windows. The SD160s are in very good condition. I remember the 160s having AC right from the get-go though...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandeWest_B35G Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 1 minute ago, chills_on_the_train said: I remember the 160s having AC right from the get-go though...? I'd imagine the series 8's did, but the 2001 order did not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick B Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jaymaud0804 said: I'd imagine the series 8's did, but the 2001 order did not Correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRT Posted January 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, chills_on_the_train said: I remember the 160s having AC right from the get-go though...? They were hot boxes from day 1. You think U2s are hot in the summer? They were a dream to drive compared to the SDs in the summer. The SDs used to have these huge white boxes on the roofs until the large more stream lined black Thermoking units were installed. 9 minutes ago, Jaymaud0804 said: I'd imagine the series 8's did, but the 2001 order did not The only U2s that had AC were the Sandiego units. They where installed after delivery and that was a huge undertaking for those cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chills_on_the_train Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 1 minute ago, LRT said: They were hot boxes from day 1. You think U2s are hot in the summer? They were a dream to drive compared to the SDs in the summer. The SDs used to have these huge white boxes on the roofs until the large more stream lined black Thermoking units were installed. Hmm. I remember going from Dalhousie to Heritage daily around 2003-2004 and the SDs were always much cooler and more comfortable than the U2s. But maybe that was due to thicker glass or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRT Posted January 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 6 hours ago, chills_on_the_train said: Hmm. I remember going from Dalhousie to Heritage daily around 2003-2004 and the SDs were always much cooler and more comfortable than the U2s. But maybe that was due to thicker glass or something? The electronics in those SDs got hot in the summer. Air circulation sucked bad in those cars. The Calgary SDs where the only cars made without air conditioning. This includes the SD100s that were built in the 80s for other agencies. The rumor was that the Calgary cars were ordered specifically without air conditioning and actually paid more money not to have air conditioning. Cars 2207 and 2219 were out again on a test run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucx Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 11 hours ago, LRT said: The rumor was that the Calgary cars were ordered specifically without air conditioning and actually paid more money not to have air conditioning. FWIW I asked Calgary Transit customer service a few years ago about paying more to remove AC and they replied saying it wasn’t the case. However the philosophy at the time was utilitarian and no frills: Strict adherence to a philosophy of using basic, proven technology (e.g., LRT cars are without automated diagnostics, automated passenger counting, air conditioning) and utilitarian design (e.g., primarily surface operation) has minimized the cost and risks associated with system development and has enabled the LRT extensions to be delivered on time and within budget. source: https://www.calgarytransit.com/sites/default/files/reports/calgarys_lrt_1st_25years_trb_revised.pdf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gsgeek540 Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 8 hours ago, lucx said: FWIW I asked Calgary Transit customer service a few years ago about paying more to remove AC and they replied saying it wasn’t the case” I would not consider any information provided by customer service or the call centre, regarding anything about route and schedule information, as credible information. The source you have provided, has the correct information. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pantograf Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 Well, it's finally starting to look like we might see a 3-car refurb train in service pretty soon. The 3 cars (2205, 2207 and 2219) are currently going through the final stages of the acceptance process and once training is done with their evaluation and some final adjustments (one car is having brake issues) are done, we should be good to go. And before you ask, there are no plans for the near future to run them with the 8's. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRT Posted January 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 50 minutes ago, Pantograf said: And before you ask, there are no plans for the near future to run them with the 8's. Haha! Really? I would never have guessed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Walton Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 An operator once told me that the 2200s' A/C can run as a heat pump in winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRT Posted January 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 24 minutes ago, Mark Walton said: An operator once told me that the 2200s' A/C can run as a heat pump in winter. You are correct. HVAC system Heating-Ventilation-Air-Conditioning 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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